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underwe

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Posted: 07/01/04 06:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hello Badeye:
Thanks for starting this thread. I was a little late in getting into this, but cannot see where you have reported a compilation of your
database on this topic.
Can you give me an update on your progress.

Again Thank you for this service to the RV public,
Bill


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Posted: 07/05/04 09:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

99 Discovery
ISB 5.9 Cummins w/Banks
Allison 3060
Freightliner Chassis

Problem: No air pressure
We were getting ready to leave the 04 GARVR on Friday morning, trying to beat the crowd (ha ha) and much to my surprise the coach wouldn't build any pressure. I checked the obvious stuff that I could and couldn,t find anything. Called Freightliner and they connected me with the closest service center which couldn't get to me untill the next afternoon, but did give me the phone number of someone else in the area who may be able to help. So I called and they sent a technician out that afternoon. He changed the governor and still no air. Following the system the next item was the air drier, had air going in but not out. He bypassed the drier to get me going and I continued home where I removed the drier and installed a filter kit. Seems to be fine now.


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Posted: 07/06/04 11:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Coachmen 1998 34' with Chev 454.
3000 miles
Problem Cheverolet Built it!

Since we have been motorhoming quite a while now we have several breakdowns but this series is probably the worst and ended up with us really happy in a new Holiday Rambler Endeavor DP. First major trip on a 1998 Coachmen 34' 454 to Gainsville, FL no problems but on the way home as we go thru Mobile, AL, the exhaust gets very loud. Wife is driving and we decuss it, no problem as 454 always have problems with exhaust manifolds, we will drive on home. About 130 more miles in Magee, Mississippi she says we are smoking very badly. We stop in a parking lot, and oil leaking from the engine area and find the oil cooler line melted and oil running out. Find a mechanic (on Sunday to come and help) son looks at front tires and says what are these shiny things around the tires, both of the steel radial were showing thru all the way around the tires, Coachmen had forgotten to realign the front end after building the coach. The mechanics go to find parts and get a plug to put in the block to plug up the oil cooler line and discover the motor moves as the left engine mount bolt does not go thru the mount, the mount sits on the bolt that how the oil cooler line melted as the engine would torque up and the exhaust would hit the oil cooler line. Fix that too, change the worst looking tire, pay them $75 (More than they asked) and drive home.

This coach had everything you can think of break including the rear hitch, exhaust, ecu, and so much more. Chevy spent over $20,000 trying to fix it and fianlly bought it back. We had 3' yellow lemons plastered all over it we were so disgusted with it. While we were waiting for them to decide to buy it back we bought the Holiday DP. It was the best move we could have made, loved that coach even though we did have a break down on it at at about 80,000 miles when one of the calipers stuck and wore the rotor half way thru. We got it towed home 150 miles and got it fixed with new rotor and caliper for $300. It was on a freighliner chassis.

1998 Holiday Endeavor DP Cummins 230HP Allison 6 speed
80,000 miles


2000 Four Winds Funmover with V10 Ford
40,000 miles
Transmission

The next breakdown happened almost 2000 miles from home in California. We have a Four Winds funmover with Ford V10. We had about 40,000 miles on it. Pulled to a stop and when we went to go, it would not move. The engine ran fine. We let it cool off for about an hour and it worked. We did this on and off for a week while we were in Ca once it was rolling, everything worked fine. We got home and had our trans guy look at it. Ford had left two bolts inside loose and let fluid seep through. Out of warranty we paid $2500 to rebuild whole transmission. It has 100,000 miles on it now and runs great.

We had some of those wonderful Firestone tires on the Fun Mower, the first one blew at 70 mph in Ohio and about scared the wits out of us. After the first one and until we got Michelin tires on it, we got where we could change a tire in 15 minutes since we have an air compressor on board. Get spare out, jack it up, use air wrench off and on, load junk tire and gone. When done with trip, take tire for free warranty replacement. Finally got tired of it, put new tires on it and then Firestone recalled the tires. Glad for the Michelins.

1997 Eldorado Class C 31' Ford V10
114,000 miles

Last breakdown was about 6 weeks ago in 31' Eldorado class c motorhome. We were headed out of town to a race about 300 miles away and had gone only 40 miles when loud bang in the rear. Found two rear tires on right side blown out. Tools would not fit the lugs, called my service manager at our store and he bought tools and we put one spare on and limped it back home. Used another vehicle and replaced the tires the next week as well as repair the wheel well damage. It did not have Michelins on it either but we were only going to use this one for a while til we bought a new one, howerer one son used it to go to Norwalk, Ohio a week ago. He lost two tires on it and it now has two new Michelins.

Pictured below are the Funmover and the Eldorado as we still have them.

Many more I am sure but these are the ones that come readily to mind.

* This post was edited 07/06/04 09:42pm by TWOSTROKE *


The Adam Family

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1997 Eldorado Class C Ford V-10
2000 Custom Hauler - Fun Mover Ford V-10
Dodge Dually w/Cummins 5 Speed
2005 Yamaha FJR1300 & FZS600
Having fun along life's highway



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Posted: 07/06/04 08:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

91 HRC With 460 Ford 550 chasis, Fuel Injection.
Symptom: Loss of power from 65mph to about 40mph on I80 in Nebraska.

Doesn't get much flatter that that. Temp in the low 70's
We had been crusing for about 2.5 hrs in the afternoon. Had about 1/2 tank of gas when I noticed the loss of power. Thought I might be on a grade or something. Then a small, bearly detectable engine miss/stumble.

I thought for sure it was another intank fuel pump/filter problem.
We were about 20mi east of NorthPlatte and pulled off and into a dinky old Sinclair Station. I had read where the gas in the tank may get hot and cause a problem. I took on 20 gallons. We got onto Hwy 30, and headed into town. I eased it on up to 50-60mph and no problem.

We stopped in town at another gas station and took on another 28 gallons to fill the tank, making a total of 48. I have an 80 gallon tank, so I still had 32 gallons onboard when I had the problem. Seems like a lot of gas to me.

We cruised at 55-65mph for another 2000 miles out to Denver and back without any other problems. I always made sure I got gas at about 250mi or so taking on 40-45 gallons.

So was it Hot or Dirty Gas, vapor lock or the dreaded pump???
If you notice the problem, pull off and get some gas to cool it off.
It may help.

Mike


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Posted: 07/10/04 10:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Model:'93 Winnebago Adventurer(32RQ)
Chassis[emoticon]30
Engine:454(trottle body fuel injection)
Transmission:4L80E
Location of failure: 4 miles N of Tampa, FL, SB on I-75
Failure: Engine quit running, cranks, but won't start.
Cause: Worn ECM harnesss at shroud(bent sheetmetal) covering air conditioning compressor pulley.

It was a dark and stormy night...
Cruising along at 55mph, decided to push on to St. Pete Bch...instead of stopping at our usual 5pm.
Engine quit.
Slipped into neutral and tried to start...just cranked.
Pulled over to shoulder and tried to start again.
Called FHP and gave them lat/lon of our location.
FHP unable to locate anything without Highway Number and Mile Marker.
1/2 hour later very kind Officer pulled up and offered to contact towing service.
1/2 hour later towing service showed up and offered to tow to either "unknown" RV shop or LazyDays RV shop.
Paid towing service $180 for towing to LazyDays facility.
NOTE: Make sure wrecker driver knows about perils of AutoPark and unsprung driveshafts.
NOTE: Make sure the the wrecker either replaces the universal bearing caps on their respective ends and tapes them in place, or count on having the universal replaced before you head on the road again.
Five days waiting for LazyDays to get an open bay to look at it.
Four hours once it was in the bay.
Two hour while the tech dropped the fuel tank because he was unable to hear the fuel pump running. He claimed that the fuel pump would need to be replaced. Pump and gauge sending unit would be replaced together. I asked what blown fuseshe'd found. He went back to check fueses and found the ECM BAT fues has blown. We also found that the fuse should've been a 10A and someone(previous owners) has replaced it with a 20A...(I hate when people lie...Nope, never had a problem with it...*sigh*).

LazyDays tech says the problem was a pinched wire near the fuel tank. Problem was fixed, tech said the 20A fuse was ok in place of the 10A that the mfgr spec'd.

Paid LazyDays +$300. and $50 tip to tech for being so good at 'finding the problem so quickly'.

Back on the road...

Transmission would occasionally feel like it was placed into Neutral wile driving down the road. Problem would occur when hitting a pothole/bump on the road.

Continued driving...

1000-2000 miles later...

Engine stalls somewhere in N. Texas. Coast to side of road. Open hood, check ECM BAT fuse, replace fuse, back on the road.

30' later...

Engine stalls, still somewhere in N. Texas. Vector to side of road, open hood, replace ECM BAT fuse that promptly burns out...

replace fuse...
replace 3rd fuse...
replace with 25A fuse...
replace with 30A fuse...
I'm either gonna clear the short, or somethin's gonna send up a smoke signal to show me where the short is...
Engine starts!
Replace 30A fuse with 10A fuse and head back on the road...cool, pale and diaphoretic...no heart attack, yet.

back in Colorado.

Scattered rock from passing truck blows out larger driver-side fixed-window.
Pull into home depot in ColoSprings to replace blown window with lexan. (easy to cut and tape in place).
Wife vacumms up glass frags and feeds infant...
Did I mention the amount of stress that driving with a 4 month old infant can bring? on top of the problems the coach was having?

Wait for second MI(heart attack).

Back on the road. Home at last.

Out to california and back, no blown fuses, but the tranny would occasionally do the neutral-shift thing.

Back home. Strange vibration at 45 mph. Went to tire dealer and they agreed that the tires may be the cause. They replaced the tires. Handkooks with Michelins. Ride is improved 100%.

Heading home and ECM BAT fuse blows.
15 fuses later(10A-30A) and having to drive the coach in reverse the last +mile home(did I mention that this is a 32')...without a backup guide.

Sitting in driveway and waiting(the MI thing again, stress level as an all time high).

Engine still running, I removed the engine cover and gave the thickest bundle of wires a 'wiggle'...THE LAST BLOW ECM BAT FUSE!!!

Hope all your miles are as enjoyable as ours have been.

I had my first MI on April 1, 2003.
I had my first child on May 22, 2003.
I bought my first class A on June 1, 2003.
I only regret not having had my child or buying a motorhome, sooner...
I could've waited until my deathbed to have the MI and the coach problems...heh.

--joe

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Gawd, I love this thread. Thanks, Badeye. Thanks Joe.
Joe, before your last MI, 50 years from now, ya gotta write a book!


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Have a new 37' 05 Expedition w/Cummins 300 & Allison 6-spd on a Freightliner CC. No problems so far, but all of these postings are outstanding. I can see where I will need a service plan of some kind. Cost will do me in and I guess I had better learn some maint things on this.


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Have a 1994 Winnebago Adventurer with Ford 460 Chasis. 70 miles into our trip to NY the fuel pump went out. I know the MH is 10 years old, but it only has 22,000 miles on it. Had to drop the 75 gallon fuel tank to get to the fuel pump. Other than that:4,000 miles and no problems.

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RV particulars: 1999 36 ft. Holiday Rambler Endeavor Ford Triton V-10
 
   Miles: 18K
   Date of failure:   August 2003   
Break Down Description: Engine would not start after stopping for fuel. Temp 104
   Symptoms: Engine cranked, but would not run
   Effect:    Stranded on a Saturday evening in Bismarck, ND
   Cause:      Fuel pump failure
   Outcome:   Pushed rig away from fuel pumps to parking area. Spent the night in the parking lot and rented a car the next morning to drive the last 200 miles home. Called the dealer the following Monday and told him where to find the rig. Traded for a diesel pusher. MUCH BETTER!

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Just back from trip to Fontana, CA from TN & have a little info. to share..
Driveline: Renegade 450hp mercedes benz, automatic tran.
Miles: 27500
Year: 2003
Breakdown: All 6 six tires on custom tow trailer blew out.
Onan generator failed to code "36" if much of a demand was placed on it.
Freightliner altenator on cab engine failed.
Needless to say all the sight seeing we done on the week of 4th of July was at the service centers for Freightliner, Onan, and the small middle of nowhere shop that in a burst of blinding luck last Sunday had the U-Bolts for the center axle that we had no idea was in danger of catastophic failure until the trailer brakes quit working on an exit ramp!
He had the exact items needed & the pricing for repair was great!

We are now in the process of trying to get with Renegade to replace wheels & tires to proper size etc. They tell us so far that for $3500 or so they will be glad to change this error in design.
I think maybe if they knew of this danger it would benefit them to help us out better than that!


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