nsdiblasi
Jacksonville, Fl
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1993 Tropical
460 Ford
E40 Transmission
Would Not start
We were coming back from RV camping in NC, left Whittier NC @ 0800. No problems other than rain and hauling our two motorcycles in an open trailer in the rain (that will be corrected before we go again). Ran over normal road debris (retreads, sticks). Stop in Welcome Center in Ga, shut down the coach for rest stop. Got back in and turn the key and it would not start. All lights work everything came on but it would click but nor start. Call Sam's ERS, this is Memorial Day, someone showed within an hour. Tried to jump it off this did not help. Meanwhile my wife called the RV center where we bought the pre-owned coach and the service dept was open. She told the service mgr what had happened. He said the starter is stuck, have your husband tap it with a hammer as you try and start it, then bring it in the next and they will ck it out. So I crawled up the coach, and there was the wire from the solenoid to the starter hanging, not attached to the starter. I had my wife turn on the coach, I touched the starter, she started up and we only lost two hours. When we got home I made a permanent fix to the wire and tie wrapped everything up. Not to bad for our first breakdown, had the Gen running and made coffee while we waited.
05 KSDP 3910 330 Cummins, Spartan Chassis
Nick&Sheila Club "Same 2 member for 31 years"
Fulltiming in Jacksonville, Fl
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hairlessinmiami
fort lauderdale, florida, usa
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that happened to me as well going through texas last year. everytime i went over a bump i lost all power. it then came back 1 of the times it stopped and did not come back. i figured it had to be something loose. I turned the key to on and fiddled with some of the wires under the dash and found the ignition wire loose. got some plyers and squeezed the connection. never had a problem since
good luck
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1/2 Canadian
Clackamas, OR, USA
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I guess every once in a while someone has to jump in and remind us to try and follow Badeye's requested format when telling us and him of your experience(s). It will help him develop his composite eventually, so please check the initial entry (page 1) before entering info and give heed to the requested specifics; that way everyone is consistent and some comparable particulars have a chance to emerge when he analyzes them. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/awink.gif "awink")
1/2 Canadian
1984 Pace Arrow traded for
2006 Beaver Monterey
1997 Ford Explorer Limited 4X4
Flyfishing in my blood
Good Sam Life Member 1334373, 35 yrs. RVing
Family Motorcoach Member F384437, Beaver Ambassador Club 14 yrs.
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gullbreezer
Gulf Breeze, FL. 32561
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Check with freightliner as well as Michelin. After 5000 miles at 85 psi as recommended on the chassis decal, Frtlnr sent me a recall notice saying the pressure should be 100 psi. That was about 2 months after our first blowout. Michelin no help. Frtlnr no response, except to check with coach mfr. Allegro ref to Mich. Sure is lots to keep track of... Gordon This was meant for #173, darbyjun (sp?)
Winnebago View on Sprinter 3500 chassis. No toad. Now up to two Standard Poodles who sit in the front seats when we are parked...It's alright, they both have licences.
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LuvRving
Bend, Oregon
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1997 Winnebago Brave 33Q
Ford 460
7,200 miles
Transmission would not shift out of lower gears. Called Ford, they had the mh towed on flatbed truck to Ford dealership 100 miles away.
Problem: Sensor between speedometer and transmission had lost fluid.
Replaced sensor: Problem solved.
Cost to Ford: $2200...
Brooksie
'03 Winnebago Brave 34D
2 dogs and one great cat
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RodSams
Lancaster PA
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Diesel, 125k miles, 1984 blueBird with a 1993 remain CAT 3208T.
After fueling, the bus would not start. Bus finally did start, but the ignition switch was smoking from an electrical fire.
Cause: there was a bare wire near the alternator that caused a spark to jump to the top of the fuel solinoid. This caused the solinoid to burn up and the ignition switch.
Until I could get home, removed fuel solinoid and removed the center from the solinoid. This allowed the engine to start. To turn off the engine, I had to remove the fuel solinoid and push a screw driver into the hole to shut off the fuel to the engine.
I couldn't find an ignition switch and used 2 on-off switches to rig a way to start the engine.
Rod
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Allegro
Mishawaka Indiana
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I have a 98 Freightliner chassis with a Cummins 5.9 ISB. At 91,000 miles, and about 3 mile from destination camp ground in Lancaster Co. PA, the engine dropped a valve ruining the head, injector, piston and cylinder wall. Lucky for me as Cummins was giving a 7 yr warranty so they paid the bill. Two weeks after we drove our car home am ready to drive 600 mi back and retreive the rig. They valve broke at the weld holding head to stem. Just hope I can trust the engine for another 91,000 as by that time I will be ready for a new one, if I'm still able to enjoy the RV life. Roger
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Boxer Lovers
Fort Smith, AR
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We had an unfortunate experience in a previous d.p. while driving through the Wyoming desert. We had a rapid change in altitude along with an eqully rapid change in air temperature and humidity, when to my suprise the "water in fuel" caution light came on. I pulled over and after a couple of minutes cool down, shut off the engine. Thank goodness a service tech had walked me through this problem before when I had purchased some bad fuel. Apparently the rapid change in air temperature and humidity produced condensation in the fuel tank which was only around half full, thus creating too much water in the fuel line.
This coach was a 5.9 Cummins on a Freighliner and you could crawl under the engine where the primary fuel filter was equpped with a small plastic plunger on the bottom of the filter that you pressed to release accumulated water from the fuel line. Its a nasty job because their is no way to keep the fuel from running down your arm, but it worked! Fired the engine back up, no warning light, drove the remaining 2,000 mile trip without a hitch.
Always, ALWAYS, keep fresh (truckstop) diesel in the tank, and when experiencing rapidly cooling, damp, weather conditions don't run the fuel down past half empty. I had fresh fuel, but more air than fuel in the tank produced condensation that caused big problems.
Dave, Robin, and Buster the Boxer
2008 Beaver Contessa, 42, Caterpillar 425
Toad 2017 Ram 1500, Quad Cab, Limited, M&G brake, Blue Ox.
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bill h
hassayampa valley
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Driveline: P30
Miles:80K
Year: 84
Symptoms: Loss of power
Effect: Flooding
Cause: Crud in float valve
Outcome: Carb full of black kitty litter.
100 miles earlier, I had put in some Red Line fuel system cleaner, which was well recommended. It apparently did its job well, and loosened up a lot of crud in the fuel system. A piece of crud apparently jammed the float valve, resulting in flooding, and loss of power. When I removed the air cleaner top, the carb was completely awash with gasoline. There were puddles of gas sizzling in the pockets on top of the intake manifold. I did th usual rapping of the float area with a screwdriver handle with no effect. Slipping a hacksaw blade in the slot between the primary and secondary barrels allowed me to work the float up and down to allow the crud to pass, and the flooding stopped. HA! Success.
But the motor ran rough and unevenly.
Removing the top of the carb revealed the float bowl to be half full of what appeared to be black kitty litter, evidently charcoal from the emissions canister. I am guessing that the gasoline overflow into the canister caused some charcoal granules to float back up the vent tube due to a failed check valve in the canister. I removed the carb, disassembled it and blew it out with a couple cans of spray cleaner. All hoses going to and from the charcoal canister were plugged with available screwdriver tips and bolts to continue the trip.
I should add that my genset runs better than it ever has since I added the Red Line fuel system cleaner.
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84 Barth 30Tag powered by HT502/Thorley/Weiand etc, Gear Vendors OD.
Siamese Calvin and Airedale Hobbes, 4WD Toyota toad
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MartyAndPeg
North Florida for the Winter
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You can see what were driving below. We left north FL this morning, made it about 38 miles north of the GA border on I95 and the brake failure warning chime came on. Pulled off at the next exit (exit 58) and checked the emergency break switch...OK. Brake fluid OK. Wheels normal temperature. Called Workhorse, they said it could not be driven. They dispatched a tow truck, and here were are, sitting in the parking lot of a dealership called Sonnys Camp and Travel in Summerville, GA. They have been very nice so far; said they will look at our coach in the morning. They closed at 5pm, but two fellows stayed until we pulled in. They put us in front, hooked us up to electric, and said they would see us at 8am.
I'll follow up tomorrow.
Well, tomorrow came and is almost gone. They never did get to us today. So, they put us back in "our spot" and said tomorrow looks much better. They are very polite.
It is now Thursday night.
After pulling apart the emergency brake assembly, it has been diagnosed as a bad switch. It is acting very erractically now. The tech took it out for a 10 mile test drive after he pulled apart the emergency brake assembly, and for the first 8 miles it was fine. As we slowed to a stop, it went off again. This time playing with the emergency brake handle made it go away. Next we drove with the wire off the switch...no problem. Once we re-connected it, the problem came back. All other brake systems check out fine, and Workhorse is overnighting a new switch. I have to say these folks are extremely polite. Each night they make sure we have electric and plenty of water. They have also offered their dump station when we finally do get on the road. Maybe tomorrow.
OK...it is now Sunday, June 20th. Happy fathers day. We left the fine folks at Sonnys on Friday afternoon. We drove about 120 miles with no issues. Stayed two nights at South of the Border on I95, then headed out this morning. Got about 140 miles and the brake light/alarm went off again. Touched the emergency brake pedal...stopped. 10 minutes later, back on. Touched pedal, stopped. Eventually even moving the pedal did not help. Drove to a park in Skippers, VA and called Workhorse. They will see where we can get in tomorrow. So, here we sit...and we thought we had it fixed.
Ok, it is now Tuesday night. Workhorse sent us to a truck repair facility (a Workhorse sponsored repair facility) in Rocky Mount, NC. It was 60 miles the wrong direction, and instead of being towed (Workhorse really wanted to tow us) we drove....with the chime going off all the time. I did not know I could have silenced it by pressing the trip button. Anyway, two days at the repair facility and it could not be diagnosed. We did find out that if it was truly a brake failure, we would not only get the light, but also a buzzer (not a chime) and a dash message. This is telling us that the parking brake is still applied...it is not. We also know the emergency brake swith works because when it is disengaged, the slides/jacks will not operate. We simply have an errant alarm. It has been determined it is safe to drive, we can silence the alarm, and now have an appointment at a Workhorse repair facility in Central Square, NY on Monday, June 28th. Hopefully I can post a solution then.
Oh, and the kicker....we stopped for fuel just past the NC/VA line, applied the brake, shut off engine, filled up, started engine, released brake...light is now off. Don't you hate intermittent problems?
Well, it is now 7/1/2004. We had the problem come back as we hit WV, and had it all the way to Clay, NY. Well, the light was on but we now know how to silence the chime. We had an appointment in Central Square, NY for Monday, June 28th. As luck would have it, when we went to leave for our appointment, we released the brake, and all is fine. We even drove it an extra 20 miles (took the long way to the repair shop) only it would not fail. They looked at it for about two hours, but could not find a thing. They are going to order pressure switches, but unless it happens again (I'm sure it will, only not whiles we are in this area...with my luck anyway) there is not much they can do. There are no codes from the computer. So, unless it happens while we take the coach to the dump station every two weeks (until we leave July 19th), we will just have to wait and see. Workhorse is still aware of it, and has been VERY cooperative.
Marty and Peg
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Marty & Peg & 2 cats
2005 Tiffin Phaeton 40QDH/350HP Cat/MH3000
2009 Ford F150 4x4/Brake Buddy
2011 Harley Softail Heritage/Rampage Motorcycle Lift
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