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DallasSteve wrote:I hope I can get some helpful tips on the trailer brakes.
The Jayco information says the trailer has "electric, self-adjusting brakes". I just confirmed that my F-250 does not have the Integrated Trailer Brake Controller. I bought a more basic F-250 XL. I'm happy that it has power windows and cruise control. Can someone explain how the trailer brakes work and what I should do if I don't have the ITBC? I'm reading some places say they won't work at all without the controller. One website says "the 7-pin trailer plugin controls the brake lights, it doesn't engage the trailer's brakes". So it sounds like I need to add a brake controller. Should I take it to Ford and pay extra to add that or just buy something off Amazon and add it myself? Does it require another wire back to the trailer or does it work off bluetooth? Help!
Not sure if a dealer can add the IBC after the fact, but that's Okay.... go get yourself a Prodigy P3 or similar .... That controller can be added by anyone who is the least bit handy..
The 7 pin does control the trailer brakes, once a brake controller is installed.... There is a BLUE wire that will run to the controller, when you step on the brakes, that wire will energize the trailer brake system.
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op, I have two Prodigy P3's for sale. PM if interested. one has literally 8 trips on it. Brackets, instructions, wiring pigtail, all of it.
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ford truck guy wrote:DallasSteve wrote:I hope I can get some helpful tips on the trailer brakes.
The Jayco information says the trailer has "electric, self-adjusting brakes". I just confirmed that my F-250 does not have the Integrated Trailer Brake Controller. I bought a more basic F-250 XL. I'm happy that it has power windows and cruise control. Can someone explain how the trailer brakes work and what I should do if I don't have the ITBC? I'm reading some places say they won't work at all without the controller. One website says "the 7-pin trailer plugin controls the brake lights, it doesn't engage the trailer's brakes". So it sounds like I need to add a brake controller. Should I take it to Ford and pay extra to add that or just buy something off Amazon and add it myself? Does it require another wire back to the trailer or does it work off bluetooth? Help!
Not sure if a dealer can add the IBC after the fact, but that's Okay.... go get yourself a Prodigy P3 or similar .... That controller can be added by anyone who is the least bit handy..
The 7 pin does control the trailer brakes, once a brake controller is installed.... There is a BLUE wire that will run to the controller, when you step on the brakes, that wire will energize the trailer brake system.
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I see one advertised by a Ford dealer on eBay. It looks like they can be added after purchase because they say that it will need to be activated at a Ford dealer. They charge $50 for activation. I also see some other eBay offers for less than $4100 but delivery takes too long. If I go that route does that mean I don't need to splice any wires? I know how to splice wires, but getting to them and doing it right is where it may become a problem for me. (this link looks ugly, but it seems to work)
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ford truck guy wrote:DallasSteve wrote:I hope I can get some helpful tips on the trailer brakes.
The Jayco information says the trailer has "electric, self-adjusting brakes". I just confirmed that my F-250 does not have the Integrated Trailer Brake Controller. I bought a more basic F-250 XL. I'm happy that it has power windows and cruise control. Can someone explain how the trailer brakes work and what I should do if I don't have the ITBC? I'm reading some places say they won't work at all without the controller. One website says "the 7-pin trailer plugin controls the brake lights, it doesn't engage the trailer's brakes". So it sounds like I need to add a brake controller. Should I take it to Ford and pay extra to add that or just buy something off Amazon and add it myself? Does it require another wire back to the trailer or does it work off bluetooth? Help!
Not sure if a dealer can add the IBC after the fact, but that's Okay.... go get yourself a Prodigy P3 or similar .... That controller can be added by anyone who is the least bit handy..
The 7 pin does control the trailer brakes, once a brake controller is installed.... There is a BLUE wire that will run to the controller, when you step on the brakes, that wire will energize the trailer brake system.
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In many cases an oem Ford IBC can be added, but requires a dealer flash to truck computer to activate. Ford's IBC is top of the heap IMHO. The Prod P3 is also a good choice. Been a while, since having to install an aftermarket, but Fords normally had a factory plug-in under/behind the dash. They supplied a factory harness, located in glove box in new trucks, that you wired to aftermarket brake controller, and then simply plugged into under dash plug...done. Still need to adjust gain etc.
Steve, take a look in glove box for a harness, could be there.
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^^^ NO splicing of wires ( that I know of ) . everything should be plug and play with the aftermarket controllers... There are folks on here that say the aftermarket ( Prodigy ) controllers are better than the IBC......
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Grit dog wrote:
You might be surprised to find the 3rd connector is for plugging in the tool to lower the spare tire….
Not sure if Ford came to their senses but practice lowering the spare tire to make sure you have everything.
Ours had a special key...which was missing. This makes it impossible to get the spare out with the flat kit. Ford dealers couldn't get me a new key. Took 2hr to cut it free and then repair the cable.
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valhalla360 wrote:Grit dog wrote:
You might be surprised to find the 3rd connector is for plugging in the tool to lower the spare tire….
Not sure if Ford came to their senses but practice lowering the spare tire to make sure you have everything.
Ours had a special key...which was missing. This makes it impossible to get the spare out with the flat kit. Ford dealers couldn't get me a new key. Took 2hr to cut it free and then repair the cable.
Thanks for that tip. I haven't seen that key. I'm going to search for it and if I don't find it I will call my salesman to see if he knows where it is. I don't need it yet, but you never know when it might happen. In your situation wasn't calling a locksmith an option?
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DallasSteve wrote:Thanks for that tip. I haven't seen that key. I'm going to search for it and if I don't find it I will call my salesman to see if he knows where it is. I don't need it yet, but you never know when it might happen. In your situation wasn't calling a locksmith an option?
Of course, it's not an issue...until it is. Luckily I when I found out, there was a tire shop across the road from the parking lot I was in, so I rolled the bad tire over and got it repaired...never using the spare. If I had been in the back woods, it would have been a much bigger deal.
No it's a special Ford adapter that goes onto the end of the crank arm that lowers the tire. A lock smith wouldn't have one. One Ford dealer was going to charge $500 since they would have to disassemble a bunch of stuff to get at the winch, which is hidden under the spare tire.
Finally used a youtube trick of banging a socket over the end of the key till it stuck and I was able to get it to turn but it wasn't nearly as simple as the youtube showed.
Hopefully, they gave up on the silly idea but if it's a new truck, you should be able to hold the dealer's feet to the fire if it needs one and is missing.
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ford truck guy wrote:^^^ NO splicing of wires ( that I know of ) . everything should be plug and play with the aftermarket controllers... There are folks on here that say the aftermarket ( Prodigy ) controllers are better than the IBC......
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Hey Joe...this is a pic of the Ford controller harness, that came in the glove box. One end plugs into dash wiring, the other needs spliced to controller wires.
I helped a friend, just 2 years ago, that had ordered a Tekonsha Voyager, and a plug/play harness he ordered from e-trailer, that he tried to install in his F150. It fit, but did not work. I asked if he had the Ford one, pictured, and he did. I connected the marked wiring to the Voyager, worked just fine.
Anyway, if the OP can get the Ford IBC installed easily, that is what I'd do. If he chooses to use the P3, can't go wrong there either, should work great.
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Oh boy, lol, you found a new F250 without an IBC….that’s like a needle in a haystack…lol.
Yes buy the Ford one and hope the stealer will install and activate it for you for cheap.
Or just install an aftermarket controller.
Splice the controller to the plug / harness that came with the truck in a plastic bag in the glove box , plug it in under the dash, mount the controller. It’s that easy. 2 beer job, tops.
Warning, you’re likely about to spend more money than you planned regardless of which option you choose unless you’re able to diy it.
Dealers and rv shops will try to charge you a bunch of money for something that should have been included equipment.
Sorry to hear you got a new truck that is missing one of the most important, almost standard, features.
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