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way2roll wrote:toedtoes wrote:Geez, that's why you are constantly making a friggin stink about EVs? Because your tax dollars are being spent on it...
Get over it. Our tax dollars are spent on tons of stuff and no one person is EVER going to be happy with 100 percent of the way it's spent. And yes, we even pay into things that we have no desire to be a part of - big frickin deal.
Reading comprehension. It matters - or in this case maybe that's part and parcel of the problem. EV's were touted as green using parts of science and one fraction of the process of production to convince voters and those in power to dump a bunch of money into it. They aren't green and they won't save the planet. Full stop. I don't mind tax dollars being spent on things that actually benefit the general populous. That is not the case here. EV's don't solve a single problem - ecological or otherwise. They actually cause a lot of problems many of which are short to come with long term consequences.
Actualy EV solve one big problem which is air polution.
Prety important for those living in crowded cities.
Driling for oil and burning fosil fuels is what makes sick and kils many milions of people every year.
And if your house power goes down in winter one can nicely survive keeping warm in Tesla even if parked in a garage. Try that with gas or diesel vehicle ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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EV Battery Production Takes A Lot Of Energy And Generates Significant Emissions.
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NamMedevac 70 wrote:EV Battery Production Takes A Lot Of Energy And Generates Significant Emissions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/10-dirty-truths-of-electric-cars-nobody-is-talking-about/ar-AA18nsCL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=be168b7322424b76b730bc27887a1db5&ei=25
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Right, because drilling for fossil fuels and the refinements of those fuels is clean and without excess energy use. Never any problems.
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Good news for EV owners if you have a few spare dollars. Tesla engineers designing a $125,000 trailer you can tow behind your RV to extend your range.
Tesla alums have created a futuristic $125,000 electric RV trailer that'll save your EV's range during road trips
Story by [email protected] (Brittany Chang,Tim Levin) • 3h ago
This article from the Business Insider website. Enjoy your reading sports fans.
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propchef wrote:NamMedevac 70 wrote:EV Battery Production Takes A Lot Of Energy And Generates Significant Emissions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/10-dirty-truths-of-electric-cars-nobody-is-talking-about/ar-AA18nsCL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=be168b7322424b76b730bc27887a1db5&ei=25
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Right, because drilling for fossil fuels and the refinements of those fuels is clean and without excess energy use. Never any problems.
Actually, unlike many close minded people I like hearing and reading two different sides of a topic. Cheers to your travels
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Great discussion and I appreciate the opinions/facts on the topic. I really hope EV's (or some other method) succeed in the goal to make the planet a better place. Current state, it bothers me that they're introducing a lot of issues that are harmful to the planet and people, but I'll concede it's new technology so hopefully there is a cleaner path forward. We'll have to wait and see. I'll also concede that my passion gets the best of me sometimes and I veer off into irrelevant comments - trying to be cognizant of that. In any event I appreciate the perspectives on either side because it's that freedom that could fuel the energy to make things better. (pardon the pun). The irony is, I think most people want the common goal, it's the alignment on how we get there that's the stickler.
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Grit dog wrote:How many miles a year do you put on it? It's new, so I'll estimate 15k.
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2oldman wrote:Grit dog wrote:How many miles a year do you put on it? It's new, so I'll estimate 15k.
Not certain what being new has to do with it unless planning to use it differnet than the car it replaces.
Doesn’t matter really. My point was with seasonal storage whether it was gonna get enough miles to not cost you more in the long run than a nice fuel efficient compact gasser. And sounds like it may do that for you. 8 year battery warranty is decent too.
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In my case, all long distance trips are done in the class c.
My driving is 5000 k in 3 years. (3000 miles)
Regards, Don
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JRscooby wrote:
Sounds like pay-off for hybrid option on a car is a lot quicker than the pay-off for the diesel option on a class 3 truck.
Of course when discussing the truck talking pay-off sets hair on fire.
Nice try chief…. I know you’re sore that diesel pickups are outta your budget, or something similar that causes you to be sore about those with diesel pickups… but you’re sorta right, the payoff for the diesel doesn’t really happen until the day you sell it and get all your extra money back….assuming you didn’t save anything on the total cost of fuel vs amount of work done, throughout your lifespan of the truck.
No hair to catch fire here, I’m bald, but I sure do enjoy the effortless diesel power, and the bonus of selling my last 3 diesels for close to or the same as what I paid for them 100-200k miles later is just the icing on the cake.
I know that doesn’t happen for everyone. Gotta buy smart and sell right and some of that is luck, but one constant is the value of that hunk of iron under the hood that holds its value.
Unless you bought a 6.0 or 6.4 Flowerjoke. In which case I’m sorry/not sorry.
Oh, forgot, what the heck does comparing a hybrid grocery getter to a diesel 1 ton do anyway? ( I know, you were just bitterly lamenting and stirring the pot at the same time…)
That’s like saying the payoff on your refrigerator is better than the payoff on your stove.
I mean they both do stuff to food for you but just because they’re both located in the kitchen doesn’t mean anything….
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