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My son and I drove Anchorage to NorCal in Dec 2006 and had no issues. We just didn’t pass an open station once we hit half tank or judging distance to next town.
That being said most off the outpost stations were closed or daytime hours only.
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time2roll wrote: agesilaus wrote: Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers. I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
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Huntindog wrote: time2roll wrote: agesilaus wrote: Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers. I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.
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Huntindog wrote: time2roll wrote: agesilaus wrote: Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers. I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative? After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. ![frown [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/frown.gif)
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.
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time2roll wrote: Huntindog wrote: time2roll wrote: agesilaus wrote: Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers. I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative? After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. ![frown [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/frown.gif)
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.
What would you be trading up from…..you know, if it could be a 4 on the floor toad?
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time2roll wrote: After a bit more reading... Rivian seems to no longer endorse four-down towing of the vehicles. ![frown [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/frown.gif)
Bollinger had made the same comments and then shifted out of the personal market to focus on commercial.
There are no EVs that can be towed on all four wheels that I am aware of.
Can anybody tell what the issue is that would prevent flat towing? For years, ICE cars was the transmission did not lube itself unless the input shaft was spinning. Which implied spin the engine. EVs don't have transmission, so that's no problem. No disconnect between wheel and motor? Well spinning the motor, with no power to it, does no harm, as long does not exceed speed it would normally run. (Going to tow faster than you would drive?) Steering and brakes would be no more complicated than ICE.
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JRscooby wrote: Huntindog wrote: time2roll wrote: agesilaus wrote: Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers. I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....
Could it be setup to add braking on a downhill? Regenerative?
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.
Great idea. But probably a pretty small market for a manufacturer to invest in the R&D needed. That would be mostly software.
Toyota is working on “follow me” software where the car would just follow the Motorhome. That would be a more universal approach as you could use any car as a toad. Or just tell it to meet you at the campsite. . Mercedes and Tesla are probably not that far from that now with their (future) autonomous driving software packages.
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JRscooby wrote:
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.
ROFL. Or what if it could fly, like a Jestons car, or teleport itself to the next destination….
Oh wait. Self driving is basically fully functional. You could have it virtually hitched to the Moho…..
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Grit dog wrote: What would you be trading up from…..you know, if it could be a 4 on the floor toad? Some day my old truck and 5th wheel will get retired. I expect my next RV is a Class A or Super C. At that point I want an EV to pull behind.
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Grit dog wrote: JRscooby wrote:
Another idea; If driver of MH could power up the toad on the fly, make toad pull itself, or even push, on steep hills, or when need to accelerate.
This would make room in battery for the regen.
ROFL. Or what if it could fly, like a Jestons car, or teleport itself to the next destination….
Oh wait. Self driving is basically fully functional. You could have it virtually hitched to the Moho…..
I have seen ads where the car will park itself for the driver. And the cruise control system will slow the car to maintain safe following distance, sound alarm and brake if gets to close. Bell 1 add locks the car door if a bicycle is passing a parked car. Are you saying there could not be a target on the back of MH, so a car does not stay tight to it? Now add V bars for safety, and to move the car under normal driving. We can already apply the toad's brakes from MH driver seat. Would it take a lot to turn on Regen with the MH's jake? And with that regen working to slow the combination, a lot of the waste energy could be put in battery, used to move the toad next day, or even supply residential loads when MH parks for night. But with the amount of energy that needs to be dissipated by a MH brakes in the course of a day of driving, I could see EV battery reaching full charge. When that happened, the regen braking goes away. Turn on EV, let it push against the towbar, help MH get up to speed.
Now many will say the market is to small, nobody will work on this idea. But throughout history many things have been invented, not to sell, but to use. Somebody is likely working on towing their EV, even if the manufacture does not recommend. If it is somebody as dumb as I am, they are just doing mechanical things, just like a ICE. But if also can work with computers, who can say what they can come up with. Near 10% of cars sold worldwide last year where EVs. Somebody wants to tow one.
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