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map40

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blt2ski wrote:

Does the i3 have an equal to a motorcycle engine in it! Might be what older sister has. She claims 75'ish miles with that motor until out of fuel. 175-200 on battery power.
I'm positive BIL can figure out the electrical change out part....

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It has a 660cc BMW engine used in mopeds all over the world. The engine is bulletproof. She gets only 75 because she did not enable the whole tanks and the on demand on/off.
And they drive like a BMW. They are fast of the line and they do 100mph if you push them. Reprograming them is relatively easy, you can live by just changing basic options with a OBDII plug and a phone.


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map40 wrote:

blt2ski wrote:

Does the i3 have an equal to a motorcycle engine in it! Might be what older sister has. She claims 75'ish miles with that motor until out of fuel. 175-200 on battery power.
I'm positive BIL can figure out the electrical change out part....

Marty

It has a 660cc BMW engine used in mopeds all over the world. The engine is bulletproof. She gets only 75 because she did not enable the whole tanks and the on demand on/off.
And they drive like a BMW. They are fast of the line and they do 100mph if you push them. Reprograming them is relatively easy, you can live by just changing basic options with a OBDII plug and a phone.


Not sure if they have figured this out yet, as they got it 4-6 months ago. 'll have to see if they've looked into it. I do know for her driving style, its a fun car for her!

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map40 wrote:

To give you real numbers, my son drives 40 miles each way to work every day. Heave traffic one part and highway. In his old car, $300 in gas per month in a good month. In his I3, $31 in electricity, $0 in gas (never had to use it). Of course, his case is a very faverable, but as I said, when it makes sense and is cheaper...


That's all pussygood, and will be right up until until the powers that be slap on some sort of mileage tax, EV tax, call it what you will, to make up for the lost fuel tax revenues. You can bet your arse that's on the way soon. If history of such things holds true he'll then be paying more than the original $300.00 he paid in gas. Add to that the current energy policy in the US is driving electricity and other energy costs through the stratosphere, and you're just seeing the beginning of the fiasco. Give it a year and your electric bill is going to look more like a mortgage payment coupon.

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The i3 is a great concept, but also probably the best argument ever as to why alcohol consumption should never be allowed in design studios.


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That's all pussygood, and will be right up until until the powers that be slap on some sort of mileage tax, EV tax, call it what you will, to make up for the lost fuel tax revenues. You can bet your arse that's on the way soon. If history of such things holds true he'll then be paying more than the original $300.00 he paid in gas. Add to that the current energy policy in the US is driving electricity and other energy costs through the stratosphere, and you're just seeing the beginning of the fiasco. Give it a year and your electric bill is going to look more like a mortgage payment coupon.
Another class act, welcome. Maybe check back this time next year, see how your prediction worked out.

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map40 wrote:

To give you real numbers, my son drives 40 miles each way to work every day. Heave traffic one part and highway. In his old car, $300 in gas per month in a good month. In his I3, $31 in electricity, $0 in gas (never had to use it). Of course, his case is a very faverable, but as I said, when it makes sense and is cheaper...


That's all pussygood, and will be right up until until the powers that be slap on some sort of mileage tax, EV tax, call it what you will, to make up for the lost fuel tax revenues. You can bet your arse that's on the way soon. If history of such things holds true he'll then be paying more than the original $300.00 he paid in gas. Add to that the current energy policy in the US is driving electricity and other energy costs through the stratosphere, and you're just seeing the beginning of the fiasco. Give it a year and your electric bill is going to look more like a mortgage payment coupon.

I was told the same thing in 2012 when I got a Nissan Leaf. Incredibly well built, did not even had to change brake pads until 120k miles. Is 2023, I am still not paying taxes or terribly high energy costs.
As I said before, forget politics and preconceptions, just look at things for what they are. I am well aware of the risks, and of it happens I can easily produce my own energy, it's quite easy.

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

The i3 is a great concept, but also probably the best argument ever as to why alcohol consumption should never be allowed in design studios.

They gave a group of engineers green light to design the best electric car they could, and they did. The I3 is not a luxury sedan, a highway cruiser or a race car. It's a daily derived with a plan to overcome the biggest problem of EVs: Dependency on the charger. From really skinny tires so you have more foot space to carbon fiber panels made in 4 minutes (that even today no other company can replicate), It is an incredible design, but also a perfect proof that EVs are only good for certain applications, not all applications.
To the subject of this thread, I don't see EV trucks taking over the market with the current technology or with the technology that is coming.

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SterlingHayden wrote:

That's all pussygood, and will be right up until until the powers that be slap on some sort of mileage tax, EV tax, call it what you will, to make up for the lost fuel tax revenues. You can bet your arse that's on the way soon. If history of such things holds true he'll then be paying more than the original $300.00 he paid in gas. Add to that the current energy policy in the US is driving electricity and other energy costs through the stratosphere, and you're just seeing the beginning of the fiasco. Give it a year and your electric bill is going to look more like a mortgage payment coupon.
Another class act, welcome. Maybe check back this time next year, see how your prediction worked out.



Yes. By reading through your past posts I see that you certainly are.

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map40 wrote:

SterlingHayden wrote:

map40 wrote:

To give you real numbers, my son drives 40 miles each way to work every day. Heave traffic one part and highway. In his old car, $300 in gas per month in a good month. In his I3, $31 in electricity, $0 in gas (never had to use it). Of course, his case is a very faverable, but as I said, when it makes sense and is cheaper...


That's all pussygood, and will be right up until until the powers that be slap on some sort of mileage tax, EV tax, call it what you will, to make up for the lost fuel tax revenues. You can bet your arse that's on the way soon. If history of such things holds true he'll then be paying more than the original $300.00 he paid in gas. Add to that the current energy policy in the US is driving electricity and other energy costs through the stratosphere, and you're just seeing the beginning of the fiasco. Give it a year and your electric bill is going to look more like a mortgage payment coupon.

I was told the same thing in 2012 when I got a Nissan Leaf. Incredibly well built, did not even had to change brake pads until 120k miles. Is 2023, I am still not paying taxes or terribly high energy costs.
As I said before, forget politics and preconceptions, just look at things for what they are. I am well aware of the risks, and of it happens I can easily produce my own energy, it's quite easy.



So you actually believe when enough EVs replace ICE vehicles for it to show up on the revenue balance sheets in brackets, they're not going to be sticking their hands in the EV owners pockets to make it back up? Come on man. Where are they going to get those funds?

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And all this will happen within the next year! [emoticon]

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