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Just a quick scroll through that video, something weird about those jersey barriers from someone who’s been in heavy highway work his entire career.
Aside from them appearing to be “used” IE a little chipped up at the ends, which makes sense, they are far “whiter” colored than any of the million yards of concrete I’ve poured, set barriers, been around.
That in itself is not a dead giveaway. But the fact that there are no loops for the barrier pins nor evidence of cutoff loops in the ends of the barrier means they are definitively not actual concrete barriers. Period end of story.
They are Jersey barrier shaped pieces of something.


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Grit dog wrote:

Just a quick scroll through that video, something weird about those jersey barriers from someone who’s been in heavy highway work his entire career.
Aside from them appearing to be “used” IE a little chipped up at the ends, which makes sense, they are far “whiter” colored than any of the million yards of concrete I’ve poured, set barriers, been around.
That in itself is not a dead giveaway. But the fact that there are no loops for the barrier pins nor evidence of cutoff loops in the ends of the barrier means they are definitively not actual concrete barriers. Period end of story.
They are Jersey barrier shaped pieces of something.


I said that a long time ago Grit. But the fan boi's went all cracker dog crazy on me. [emoticon]

And now this comes out:
VP of PepsiCo Mike O'connell wrote:

PepsiCo’s new Semis can haul Frito-Lay food products for around 425 miles (684 km), but for heavier loads of sodas, the trucks will do shorter trips of around 100 miles (160 km), O’Connell said.


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Weird? 25 tons of chips must weigh less that 25 tons of Pepsi? Wait what? Ooooooooooohh never mind. It must be the same reason 25 tons of feathers weighs less than 25 tons of lead. Silly me anyway!!!

When Tusk said "fully loaded semi" he must have meant "fully loaded with chips" I get it now!!! [emoticon]


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Posted: 12/17/22 04:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Per the link.

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Personally, I believe that either the quoted VP doesn't have a clue what he is talking about or there is much more to the range reduction than just weight and range. Note that O'Connell never said why the trips would be shorter or why just the initial trips will be shorter. Since he used the term "initially" it is implied that the trucks will eventually be put to work on longer trips.

My personal experience with a Tesla is that weight has almost nothing to do with range. The increased rolling resistance from the extra weight is nearly negligible. There is no way that a legal load would make power consumption increase by a factor of 4.

The reason that ICE engines are affect more by load is that every time they apply the brakes momentum is turned into heat and the only way to replace that momentum is by burning more fuel. An EV turns the motor into a generator which puts the momentum back into the battery for later use. About 10% of the energy is lost as heat but 85 to 90% gets put back to useful work. You can see that in the energy graph where the range actually comes back up when going down hills. You don't see that with ICE engines.

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Does the VP drive an EV? I would guess not.


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Groover wrote:

Personally, I believe that either the quoted VP doesn't have a clue what he is talking about or there is much more to the range reduction than just weight and range. Note that O'Connell never said why the trips would be shorter or why just the initial trips will be shorter. Since he used the term "initially" it is implied that the trucks will eventually be put to work on longer trips.

My personal experience with a Tesla is that weight has almost nothing to do with range. The increased rolling resistance from the extra weight is nearly negligible. There is no way that a legal load would make power consumption increase by a factor of 4.

The reason that ICE engines are affect more by load is that every time they apply the brakes momentum is turned into heat and the only way to replace that momentum is by burning more fuel. An EV turns the motor into a generator which puts the momentum back into the battery for later use. About 10% of the energy is lost as heat but 85 to 90% gets put back to useful work. You can see that in the energy graph where the range actually comes back up when going down hills. You don't see that with ICE engines.


It’s not implied, it’s stated.

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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Just a quick scroll through that video, something weird about those jersey barriers from someone who’s been in heavy highway work his entire career.
Aside from them appearing to be “used” IE a little chipped up at the ends, which makes sense, they are far “whiter” colored than any of the million yards of concrete I’ve poured, set barriers, been around.
That in itself is not a dead giveaway. But the fact that there are no loops for the barrier pins nor evidence of cutoff loops in the ends of the barrier means they are definitively not actual concrete barriers. Period end of story.
They are Jersey barrier shaped pieces of something.


I said that a long time ago Grit. But the fan boi's went all cracker dog crazy on me. [emoticon]

And now this comes out:
VP of PepsiCo Mike O'connell wrote:

PepsiCo’s new Semis can haul Frito-Lay food products for around 425 miles (684 km), but for heavier loads of sodas, the trucks will do shorter trips of around 100 miles (160 km), O’Connell said.


Link

Weird? 25 tons of chips must weigh less that 25 tons of Pepsi? Wait what? Ooooooooooohh never mind. It must be the same reason 25 tons of feathers weighs less than 25 tons of lead. Silly me anyway!!!

When Tusk said "fully loaded semi" he must have meant "fully loaded with chips" I get it now!!! [emoticon]

Stil shorting T stock,,?keep at it. Don't cry when you're broke tho [emoticon]

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Reisender wrote:

Groover wrote:

Personally, I believe that either the quoted VP doesn't have a clue what he is talking about or there is much more to the range reduction than just weight and range. Note that O'Connell never said why the trips would be shorter or why just the initial trips will be shorter. Since he used the term "initially" it is implied that the trucks will eventually be put to work on longer trips.

My personal experience with a Tesla is that weight has almost nothing to do with range. The increased rolling resistance from the extra weight is nearly negligible. There is no way that a legal load would make power consumption increase by a factor of 4.

The reason that ICE engines are affect more by load is that every time they apply the brakes momentum is turned into heat and the only way to replace that momentum is by burning more fuel. An EV turns the motor into a generator which puts the momentum back into the battery for later use. About 10% of the energy is lost as heat but 85 to 90% gets put back to useful work. You can see that in the energy graph where the range actually comes back up when going down hills. You don't see that with ICE engines.


It’s not implied, it’s stated.


Have you done the math? I have. There is a reason that other electric trucks have x amount of range / KWH and and Tesla has 2X's-X/KWH. And it's not because they have a magic battery or battery formula. All you have to do is look at electric pickups and see what they get when towing a tiny trailer and then look at the numbers that Tesla is "alluding" to. All the other truck companies state their numbers and everything is in the open. Tesla is the only company where almost no numbers are given. Funny how that works hu? [emoticon]

BTW, you must have a magic Tesla car. Because the more people I pile in my electric car the less miles I get / KWH. It's math and it works. You can't even get a sun roof in my electric car because of the weight and aero penalty.

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free radical wrote:

Stil shorting T stock,,?keep at it. Don't cry when you're broke tho [emoticon]


LMAO

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Tesla stock declined 15.4% for the week, marking the company’s worst one-week performance in 20 months.


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So what’s the explanation for the worlds most unusual looking temporary barrier?

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