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Mannon89

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Posted: 11/27/22 08:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Does anyone have experience with this dealership or any fun town dealership elsewhere? We are thinking about buying a cedar creek fifth wheel from them.


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As a general rule, the vast majority of RVs built are full of broken, misaligned, missing, and poorly installed parts. This includes inside and outside the RV. YOU are responsible for making certain EVERYTHING is done correctly. Inspect with a fine tooth comb. Look every where. Don't believe a word they say about quality.

As a general rule, ALL RV dealers are in business for ONE THING, and that is to make as much money as possible, while selling you any particular RV for as much as possible through what ever means they can use. They act nice, but they are not nice. It is up to you to negotiate by any means possible, to get the best deal possible. You can use any means available to you, including the same methods they use.

As a general rule, buying an RV is not a fun or easy project. Wear steel toes shoes, flack vest, ear plugs, and any other protective gear you can find. If the purchase is easy, you got screwed. If everything works perfectly, and you love your new purchase, breath a sigh of relief, you are one of the lucky few.

As a general rule, when you drive off the lot, you are forgotten. Don't expect anyone there to remember you, or go out of their way to do you any favors.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER in business that will stand behind any RV they sell.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER that will perform repairs under warranty, and will find ways to charge you anyway.

These are some of the general rules. Not all dealers are this bad, but most are.

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the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Others can feel free to comment.


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Well Larry Cad, just what are your true feelings of new RV shopping?

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DewLess wrote:

Well Larry Cad, just what are your true feelings of new RV shopping?

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larry cad wrote:

As a general rule, the vast majority of RVs built are full of broken, misaligned, missing, and poorly installed parts. This includes inside and outside the RV. YOU are responsible for making certain EVERYTHING is done correctly. Inspect with a fine tooth comb. Look every where. Don't believe a word they say about quality.

As a general rule, ALL RV dealers are in business for ONE THING, and that is to make as much money as possible, while selling you any particular RV for as much as possible through what ever means they can use. They act nice, but they are not nice. It is up to you to negotiate by any means possible, to get the best deal possible. You can use any means available to you, including the same methods they use.

As a general rule, buying an RV is not a fun or easy project. Wear steel toes shoes, flack vest, ear plugs, and any other protective gear you can find. If the purchase is easy, you got screwed. If everything works perfectly, and you love your new purchase, breath a sigh of relief, you are one of the lucky few.

As a general rule, when you drive off the lot, you are forgotten. Don't expect anyone there to remember you, or go out of their way to do you any favors.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER in business that will stand behind any RV they sell.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER that will perform repairs under warranty, and will find ways to charge you anyway.

These are some of the general rules. Not all dealers are this bad, but most are.

ca·ve·at emp·tor

the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Others can feel free to comment.


Change DEALER to RV OWNER. Same thing could be said. I have been involved in the RV business for 50 years. Started out cleaning RV plants after school. Then worked on production line. Then became a RV tech for 43 years. NONE OF WHAT YOU STATED IS TRUE. The vast MINORITY of RV dealers behave as you stated. DEALERS (good dealers) require repeat customers. You cannot stay in business by ignoring your customers. You take your advertising budget and divide by the year total customers you sold too. THAT is how much it costs to get 1 customer on your lot and sell him. Years ago the owner told me that cost was $575. in other words, it cost $575 to land each customer. DON'T TAKE CARE OF THAT CUSTOMER AND YOU SQUANDERED THAT $575. Doug

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They are the largest towable dealer in Texas and Oklahoma. I do not work for them. Doug

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larry cad wrote:

As a general rule, the vast majority of RVs built are full of broken, misaligned, missing, and poorly installed parts. This includes inside and outside the RV. YOU are responsible for making certain EVERYTHING is done correctly. Inspect with a fine tooth comb. Look every where. Don't believe a word they say about quality.

As a general rule, ALL RV dealers are in business for ONE THING, and that is to make as much money as possible, while selling you any particular RV for as much as possible through what ever means they can use. They act nice, but they are not nice. It is up to you to negotiate by any means possible, to get the best deal possible. You can use any means available to you, including the same methods they use.

As a general rule, buying an RV is not a fun or easy project. Wear steel toes shoes, flack vest, ear plugs, and any other protective gear you can find. If the purchase is easy, you got screwed. If everything works perfectly, and you love your new purchase, breath a sigh of relief, you are one of the lucky few.

As a general rule, when you drive off the lot, you are forgotten. Don't expect anyone there to remember you, or go out of their way to do you any favors.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER in business that will stand behind any RV they sell.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER that will perform repairs under warranty, and will find ways to charge you anyway.

These are some of the general rules. Not all dealers are this bad, but most are.

ca·ve·at emp·tor

the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Others can feel free to comment.


Where did the OP state it was his 1st RV? Quite a rant about something the OP probably has a good idea about anyways. Most of what you said were basically blanket statements.

Not very many 1st time RV buyers buy a Cedar Creek.

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dougrainer wrote:

larry cad wrote:

As a general rule, the vast majority of RVs built are full of broken, misaligned, missing, and poorly installed parts. This includes inside and outside the RV. YOU are responsible for making certain EVERYTHING is done correctly. Inspect with a fine tooth comb. Look every where. Don't believe a word they say about quality.

As a general rule, ALL RV dealers are in business for ONE THING, and that is to make as much money as possible, while selling you any particular RV for as much as possible through what ever means they can use. They act nice, but they are not nice. It is up to you to negotiate by any means possible, to get the best deal possible. You can use any means available to you, including the same methods they use.

As a general rule, buying an RV is not a fun or easy project. Wear steel toes shoes, flack vest, ear plugs, and any other protective gear you can find. If the purchase is easy, you got screwed. If everything works perfectly, and you love your new purchase, breath a sigh of relief, you are one of the lucky few.

As a general rule, when you drive off the lot, you are forgotten. Don't expect anyone there to remember you, or go out of their way to do you any favors.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER in business that will stand behind any RV they sell.

As a general rule, there is NO DEALER that will perform repairs under warranty, and will find ways to charge you anyway.

These are some of the general rules. Not all dealers are this bad, but most are.

ca·ve·at emp·tor

the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Others can feel free to comment.


Change DEALER to RV OWNER. Same thing could be said. I have been involved in the RV business for 50 years. Started out cleaning RV plants after school. Then worked on production line. Then became a RV tech for 43 years. NONE OF WHAT YOU STATED IS TRUE. The vast MINORITY of RV dealers behave as you stated. DEALERS (good dealers) require repeat customers. You cannot stay in business by ignoring your customers. You take your advertising budget and divide by the year total customers you sold too. THAT is how much it costs to get 1 customer on your lot and sell him. Years ago the owner told me that cost was $575. in other words, it cost $575 to land each customer. DON'T TAKE CARE OF THAT CUSTOMER AND YOU SQUANDERED THAT $575. Doug


Ahhhhhh, the poor RV dealer LOL.

My experience is most are as Larry calls it, especially so any of the large chains. Camping World, Campers Inn, General RV, Myers, even RVW.They'll get that $575.00 back and then some with the BS they tack on. They sure seem to be staying in business fine and its a known FACT that after the sale the RV OWNER is forgotten in a New York minute.

I know of a couple mom and pop family owned dealers who might give a ****, but I also know of more than a couple of those who sold out to the chains I mentioned. The poor RV dealers, I hope they don't starve.

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For those that believe what Larry Cad stated. WHY WOULD YOU BUY AND SUPPORT WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS AN INDUSTRY FULL OF CROOKS??????????????????????????????????????? Doug

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No sense for ANYONE, to get worked up over a forum members opinion of RV dealers.

Yes, some of what Larry said is true, and he did say generally. Quite a rant, which indicates a bad personal experience?? Who knows, but a bit over the top!

Of course some dealers are better than others, same as with car sales, realtors selling homes, even doctors and lawyers. High volume dealers can sometimes be less personal/caring.

Jerry

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