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NOWANTSNOWARRANTS

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Posted: 09/26/22 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I recently purchased 2006 Monaco La Palma. 24,000 miles. Great coach. Had Michelin tires on it but datd code was 2005. I did a lot of internet research and bought some Toyo m154's. The coach was a great driver on Michelin's. I drove home after the change and it was terrible. Wandered and rear swayed terribly. Did another internet search and learned about sway bars, quick fixes and safe t steer. I checked under the motor home and was disappointed to discover a safe t steer and upgraded anti sway bar.

Did I screw up? I'm considering going back to Michelins. This was a really expensive mistake if I have to replace the Toyos. Any thoughts?

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I had exactly the very same experience. Originally ran a set of Toyos and they were fine and after they wore out, bought another set. They were all over the road immediately and I went back to the dealer and they installed a more expensive steel belted radial Toyo tire and they too wandered all over the road.

Finally, out of total exasperation, I bought a set of Michelin XPS steel belted radials and they run PERFECT.

Many people will swear that the Toyos are the only tires to have but I know what I know and I don't have time to be chasing the "right tires". I know what works and what doesn't.

On a side note, I was told that tires, when new, need time to break in and once they are, will not be squirrely.And yes, my rv already had newer Bilstein shocks and Helwig sway bars.

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Posted: 09/26/22 07:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

22 years on 3 set of Michelins,, never a problem.


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Posted: 09/26/22 08:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Did you check the tire pressure? Over inflated brand new tires will do that.

On my 2004 La Palma with Michelins I run 90lb all the way around. Based on my weight the tire pressure chart calls for 85 front and 80 rear so I add a bit for a margin of error.


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ArchHoagland wrote:

Did you check the tire pressure? Over inflated brand new tires will do that.

On my 2004 La Palma with Michelins I run 90lb all the way around. Based on my weight the tire pressure chart calls for 85 front and 80 rear so I add a bit for a margin of error.


This.

Also how many miles have you driven them? Sometimes new tires need to get some miles on them to get scrubbed in a little. I was on the road for 30 years, new snow tires never drove good for the first 500-1000 miles.


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NOWANTSNOWARRANTS

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Posted: 09/27/22 01:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for feedback. All good thoughts. I tried three different tire pressures starting around recommended 100lbs. I have about 400 miles on the new Toyos.

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I went from M to T as well no trouble but

I keep telling people here are three pressures almost guaranteed to be wrong
One is the one on the tire "Maxium pressure 110 psi at maximum load of xxxxx pounds. IS the correct pressure ONLY if the tires are at max load (mine were)

The second is the pressure on sticker 95 in my case (WRONG)
and the third is whatever the tire store puts in unless you are specific about the pressure and check it.

Odds are you need to adjust pressure first... Then think about other things.

NOTE: there could be other issues but let's try the FREE fix (Pressure) First... Oh you should have the rig weighed so you knwo the proper pressure in the tires.. RVSAFETY.com is I think the place to start if you want it done properly.

Also not all tire stores balance 22.5's Mine dropped a bag of beads in the tire.


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all great replies do them. then rebalence. but at a different shop. I.ve always run mich. no problems.

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Posted: 09/27/22 04:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I put Toyo M154’s H rated on the front of my unit. Did not really like them until our first short trip. But then they rode as well as the GY’s they replaced. Have also reduced pressures from sticker (92) to weight (83). Rough roads still suck (did before) but not as bad, good roads are good.


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We have only been in the class A world for a few years after 3 decades of towing TTs, 5ers, and toyhaulers. Every time we got new tires for our tow vehicle, regardless of brand, whatever we were towing was swaying all over the road, found we had to break them in as LT tires are made of very hard rubber. To alleviate this issue we ended up buying 2 tires at a time and putting them on front axle for a few months to break them in, then went back and got the second set and rotated the now broken in front tires to the rear. No more issues with sway or rear traction with broken in tires, our HD truck was dedicated to towing our rigs and just sat in garage when we were not out RVing.

The class A we purchased a couple of years ago had a set of Toyos roughly 10 years old although they showed very little wear, private seller dropped price $3K and we drove our new to us rig back home nearly 1K miles through blistering record setting TX heat. It drove great, tires being well broken in and scorching heat kept us glued to the road, got home and replaced with the same Toyos M154.
First time out on highway were were all over the place, checked pressure and tire store had them at max psi, prior Toyos only had roughly 85/90 psi. Dropped psi in new Toyo tires to around 90 and drivability improved dramatically, after a couple of in-state trips they are now broken in and riding marvelously.

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