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mr. ed

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Posted: 04/23/21 06:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mr. ed wrote:

Lynnmor wrote:

If you removed all the products containing HFCS from the supermarket, about all you would have is an echo. My doctor put me onto the issue years ago and it has only gotten worse. For example, the cereal aisle had only a couple of products fit for human consumption but lately even those now have the filth.


I agree with you about the cereals. I've given up on these cereals entirely and buy only hot cereal, such as oatmeal, which has no added sugar. However, I can't eat oatmeal without at least a little sweetening. For that I use a minimal amount of "Sugar in the Raw". It may not be much better than regular white sugar, but I still prefer that over a product containing HFCS.

Several folks on this thread made an issue about some of the studies on HFCS being a little dated. That doesn't necessarily mean there isn't some truth in their findings. That being said, I'll continue to avoid HFCS where possible. i acknowledge that's almost impossible since usage of HFCS is so ubiquitous in many foods. If I ingest a little, so be it. Beats starving! [emoticon]



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I believe Mr. Ed got his information from the highly respected Mayo Clinic. I did a search on "What are the dangers of high fructose corn syrup" and scrolled down to the Mayo Clinic's site. It contains the same links mentioned by Mr. Ed. I tried copying the URL in order to provide a link on this thread, but couldn't get it to work. Anyhow, check out the information. i found it interesting.

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Dr. Mercola has written a book about the sugar addiction. It's fascinating reading.

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philh wrote:

Dr. Mercola has written a book about the sugar addiction. It's fascinating reading.

Is he the guy who makes the throat lozenges? (LOL....j/k)

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I'm brittle diabetic and High Fruitcose Corn Syrup is like poison to me.I think it is more than it being fruitcose as honey doesn't do the same things to me.
I try to avoid High Fruitcose every time I am aware of it but it is in everything from breads, to hotdogs, to many hamburgers from fast food.
One Drive In apparently washes their lettuce and tomatoes and pickles in the stuff plus it is in their meat and bun.
I've been buying drinks in bottles that say pure cane sugar for folks in our group but they still have cut cabonization so much they are like syrup. but very seldom touch consume sugar knowingly..but it seems my bod reacts to diet drinks adversely too.
They now use a different term in most instances "Natural Sugar" I think it is.
Drinking lots of water, now and very seldom a diet drink even..but I crave them
The high fruitcose corn syrup hits my bloodstream real quick and makes my feet and legs burn and it takes a lot of insulin and long time to get it back down. with the new contant meters with the sending unit in/on the skin I've got my A1Cdwon to 6.3 and one month 6.0. Don't think I allowed to mention brand. but that sugar may require me to monitor all day and inject more small does or large of insulin to get by glucose levels near normal. It is as if acid is in the stuff!

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I'm not necessarily a fan of HFCS but there are some some facts that need to be stated.

First, the common sugar that we are used to is sucrose. Sugar cane, honey, maple sugar, etc. all contain sucrose. Sucrose actually consists of two sugars, fructose and glucose, that are chemically linked together. The linkage is split during digestion so you get your fructose anyway.

Second, fructose and complex sugars containing fructose are far far far sweeter than any other sugar including glucose. If you want sweet, there has to be fructose.

Finally, HFCS is made from corn starch (a polymer consisting of glucose units). The starch is chopped up to give free glucose. This is not sweet. The glucose is then treated with an enzyme that converts glucose to fructose and vice versa - you wind up with a 50/50 mix of the two sugars - the same as you would get by eating sucrose.

My concern would be with whatever unknown contaminants might be added during the steps from starch to the HFCS.


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down home wrote:

I'm brittle diabetic and High Fruitcose Corn Syrup is like poison to me.I think it is more than it being fruitcose as honey doesn't do the same things to me.
I try to avoid High Fruitcose every time I am aware of it but it is in everything from breads, to hotdogs, to many hamburgers from fast food.
One Drive In apparently washes their lettuce and tomatoes and pickles in the stuff plus it is in their meat and bun.
I've been buying drinks in bottles that say pure cane sugar for folks in our group but they still have cut cabonization so much they are like syrup. but very seldom touch consume sugar knowingly..but it seems my bod reacts to diet drinks adversely too.
They now use a different term in most instances "Natural Sugar" I think it is.
Drinking lots of water, now and very seldom a diet drink even..but I crave them
The high fruitcose corn syrup hits my bloodstream real quick and makes my feet and legs burn and it takes a lot of insulin and long time to get it back down. with the new contant meters with the sending unit in/on the skin I've got my A1Cdwon to 6.3 and one month 6.0. Don't think I allowed to mention brand. but that sugar may require me to monitor all day and inject more small does or large of insulin to get by glucose levels near normal. It is as if acid is in the stuff!


What I’ve read in the info from Mayo clinic is the fructose in HFCS is a modified form that doesn’t mach the natural fructose found in fruits, thereby making it harmful. I urge you to see what they’ve said about it. Do a Google search on the health effects of high glucose corn syrup, as Bachelor mentioned, then scroll to Mayo Clinic’s findings. They are a highly respected organization, and I would take their findings seriously. Sorry I couldn’t provide a link here. I had the same problem as Bachelor in getting it to work. [emoticon]

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Shearwater wrote:

I'm not necessarily a fan of HFCS but there are some some facts that need to be stated.

First, the common sugar that we are used to is sucrose. Sugar cane, honey, maple sugar, etc. all contain sucrose. Sucrose actually consists of two sugars, fructose and glucose, that are chemically linked together. The linkage is split during digestion so you get your fructose anyway.

Second, fructose and complex sugars containing fructose are far far far sweeter than any other sugar including glucose. If you want sweet, there has to be fructose.

Finally, HFCS is made from corn starch (a polymer consisting of glucose units). The starch is chopped up to give free glucose. This is not sweet. The glucose is then treated with an enzyme that converts glucose to fructose and vice versa - you wind up with a 50/50 mix of the two sugars - the same as you would get by eating sucrose.

My concern would be with whatever unknown contaminants might be added during the steps from starch to the HFCS.


The study performed by Mayo Clinic found that the fructose found in HFCS is some sort of variant from the real stuff, and is harmful. I can’t provide a direct link here, so do a Google search on the subject and find Mayo Clinic’s information. [emoticon]

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The study performed by Mayo Clinic found that the fructose found in HFCS is some sort of variant from the real stuff, and is harmful. I can’t provide a direct link here, so do a Google search on the subject and find Mayo Clinic’s information.


I went to the Mayo Clinic website and searched for fructose. I found 53 articles that mentioned it. It turns out that there are some exceedingly rare hereditary defects. More commonly, carbohydrates like fructose can make you fat, regardless of their source.

The only comparison of HFCS with other sources of fructose was written by Mayo expert Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

"High-fructose corn syrup is chemically similar to table sugar. Controversy exists, however, about whether the body handles high-fructose corn syrup differently than table sugar.
At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners."

YOU CAN'T TRUST EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET!

I recommend going to Wikipedia to check out real science information - they are a highly reputable technical source.

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From Wikipedia's own website: wrote:

Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia. Because it can be edited by anyone at any time, any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. Biographies of living persons, subjects that happen to be in the news, and politically or culturally contentious topics are especially vulnerable to these issues. Edits on Wikipedia that are in error are usually fixed after some time. However, because Wikipedia is a volunteer-run project, it cannot constantly monitor every contribution. There are many errors that remain unnoticed for hours, days, weeks, months, or even years. Therefore, Wikipedia should not be considered a definitive source in and of itself.



For accuracy in research it is best to always go to the original source and proceed from there.

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