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RE: Chevy Silverado EV
TFL Trucks, Silverado EV vs F150 gas
Pretty impressive stats posted by the Chevy. Back in the '70s and '8s a lot of gas vehicles didn't get that far pulling a trailer like that but we made it work.
The do need to build more EV charging stations though.
Yep on that last point. But GM has signed on with Tesla so they’ll have access to the many of the existing V3 stations and I suspect all of the future V4 stations, so that should help a lot.
Good link.
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09/23/23 12:17pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Chevy Silverado EV
And while towing a 10k travel trailer, would the range be cut about in half. Any real world road tests, I will make a search in a few days.
I am so out of touch with todays trucks. I had NO idea people were towing 10,000 pound trailers with half tons nowadays. That was firmly in the 3/4 ton if not 1 ton range when I was towing a fifth wheel. I learn something new everyday.Yes, you are a little out of touch. To start off with he said "travel trailer" (which is not fifth wheel). But over and above that, my 1/2 ton has a 2500lbs payload rating (2496 actually per door sticker), 11,000lbs max loaded trailer rating, and 375 hp. So yes, it will tow a 10,000lbs travel trailer and if I leave the wife home, maybe a fifth wheel also.
Wow. Yah, our last new truck was in around 1999 so I am definitely disconnected from today’s truck numbers.
Thanks for the numbers.
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09/23/23 12:14pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
Possibly poorly worded on my part. The number one selling car in the world is the tesla model Y.
“For the first time, an electric vehicle – the Tesla Model Y – became the world's best-selling car, at least for the first quarter of 2023, topping the Toyota Corolla and Toyota RAV4, according to data from JATO Dynamics published by Motor1.”
I’m not aware of anywhere that forces you to buy an EV but I’m not an American. Maybe you have different rules there. Here you can buy whatever car or truck you want. Where do you live that you are being forced to buy an EV tow vehicle?
Facts are slippery things and it requires you to do a little due diligence rather than take the word of someone with a vested interest.
Autoweek article - Is Tesla Model Y The World’s Best-Selling Car? Nope, Not Even Close.
And I am not sure why you can't grasp the financial impact to people who do not want to buy EV's. When the government mandates and pumps Billions into auto makers to force them to produce EV's, or when infrastructure has to be updated to support EV's, Or landfills have to update their practices, the list goes on and on - who do you think pays for that? Every single American who files taxes despite 93% of them NOT buying an EV - that's who.
Yah. No. Toyota is playing with the numbers and including a variety of models and body styles that loosely fall under Corolla umbrella. No publication agrees with that article and it was generally considered busted.
If people don’t want to buy an EV they shouldn’t. Lots of choices out there. That simple.
Auto manufacturers are putting billions into EV development because people want them. Any manufacturer that doesn’t is gone within two decades. Stellantis CEO has come right out and said it can’t be done and cars would have to start at 70,000 for them to make money. Meanwhile tesla sells them at 37000 ish dollars and has healthy margins. And the upcoming model 2 will be in the mid twenties.
Infrastructure is ongoing anywhere and changes with technology. Most countries are not having problems adapting their infrastructure.
I didn’t understand the reference to landfills. Cars here are generally recycled. And the batteries definitely are as they are super valuable.
Sorry I’m not up on American EV adaption rate or infrastructure challenges so can’t really comment on that.
We are about to hit the road on a little camping trip so I’ll check in next week. Enjoyed the civil discussion. I think some of our point of view differences are just living in different countries.
Safe travels way2roll.
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09/08/23 09:32am |
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RE: Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
Ok. But the easy answer is just not to buy one if it doesn’t suit you. Obviously many people prefer the tech, performance and convenience of an EV. It’s probably what makes them the number one selling car in the world.
For others it’s the wrong fit and they buy something else. Drive what you love and love what you drive.
As far as tow vehicles just buy a gas or diesel vehicle if that’s what you need. Presently electric tow vehicles are fine for small low profile trailers. I’m sure that will change a lot in the next 5 years. If you have a bigger trailer there is a large choice of gas and diesel vehicles.
Cheers.
EV's are the number one car selling in the world? Where are you getting your information? Currently - even with an increase in sales that has once again slowed - EV's sales make up 7% of the market share. It's not even possible with current production to make them the number one selling vehicle. Not even close.
Once again you miss my overarching point - it's not just about what I want or don't want to buy. These initiatives put me on the hook to pay for them whether I want to buy one or not. My opinion doesn't matter. It's being forced instead of organic free market. EV's are being mandated at the consumer and manufacturer level. I guess it's fine if they up your taxes and cost of electricity, and landfill fees etc to support the initiative if you agree with it.
Possibly poorly worded on my part. The number one selling car in the world is the tesla model Y.
“For the first time, an electric vehicle – the Tesla Model Y – became the world's best-selling car, at least for the first quarter of 2023, topping the Toyota Corolla and Toyota RAV4, according to data from JATO Dynamics published by Motor1.”
I’m not aware of anywhere that forces you to buy an EV but I’m not an American. Maybe you have different rules there. Here you can buy whatever car or truck you want. Where do you live that you are being forced to buy an EV tow vehicle?
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09/08/23 08:35am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
I don't know how they can claim zero emissions, how much emissions were made in the construction/production of them and how (ow) much?
I’m not sure what you are asking. During the operation of the vehicle there are no exhaust emissions.
Emissions during manufacture are a different metric and are easy to find and compare on the web.
That's the biggest catch phrase of the EV argument - "zero emissions". most of the sales pitch and metrics for EV's is tailpipe emissions - there is no tailpipe.
There's a TON of conflicting and manipulated information as to the ecological impacts of EV production and end of life. There's also humanitarian impacts and resource availability. You don't hear much about the latter 2. But resources required for EV production are limited- more so than the materials for ICE production. Dependency of foreign nations for materials is also a major factor. The energy grid will be leveraged proportionate to the decline of gasoline. That requires infrastructure and demand - both of those will impact consumer cost and taxes. I'm already seeing articles on how it costs more to charge an EV than the cost to fill up an ICE. Again, we haven't solved anything. Just traded old problems for new ones and to produce a product that to date is inferior in performance with respect to tow vehicles. But that's what's been decided on our path. There is no choice.
Ok. But the easy answer is just not to buy one if it doesn’t suit you. Obviously many people prefer the tech, performance and convenience of an EV. It’s probably what makes them the number one selling car in the world.
For others it’s the wrong fit and they buy something else. Drive what you love and love what you drive.
As far as tow vehicles just buy a gas or diesel vehicle if that’s what you need. Presently electric tow vehicles are fine for small low profile trailers. I’m sure that will change a lot in the next 5 years. If you have a bigger trailer there is a large choice of gas and diesel vehicles.
Cheers.
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09/08/23 07:45am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
I don't know how they can claim zero emissions, how much emissions were made in the construction/production of them and how (ow) much?
I’m not sure what you are asking. During the operation of the vehicle there are no exhaust emissions.
Emissions during manufacture are a different metric and are easy to find and compare on the web.
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09/07/23 09:48pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
IF it does fail per say. Will it be Ford's first, last or one of many failures in automotive design?!?!?
Along with let's add ANY other vehicle manufacture for that matter.
Time to wait and see what this is. I'm personally hoping it's an 8 lug over the DOT HD class 2 8401+ gvwr chassis design. Granted emissions are not an issue, but braking, power, payload, more towing capacity along with more "fuel" to tow longer distances etc. Something many of you have beeched about!
Marty
I would think a big battery like that would be very conducive to very high regenerative braking. From personal experience regenerative braking is a huge plus when towing. Even on 12 percent grades we don’t have to touch the service brake. But that’s with a light trailer.
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09/05/23 05:11pm |
Tow Vehicles
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Ford files trademark for F200 pickup.
Interesting. Here’s the link.
https://insideevs.com/news/685165/ford-f200-trademark-filing/?fbclid=IwAR3Yi8D4IAgQ3KV3QwspPB69fXQgry7OYhFqRc6j4ALxypxbQZRVasmoNyo_aem_AUXa7pSJ-jy0OUSKWgr2e-bFEI3hzHS8y0JVLr4QkMZI03xJS-_O2FC0A29RCdlJdzI
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09/05/23 10:08am |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Travel Trailer for Two
:). Lol. We did the same thing. After 17 years went from a 40 foot diesel pusher to an 18 foot teardrop trailer towed by an SUV.
Consider looking at the freedom express 192. It has a floor plan you may like and is within your towing specs.
Either way. Enjoy the new lifestyle. We love being able to get into campgrounds we could only pass before.
Safe travels.
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09/02/23 08:09pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Our Tesla/T@B Yoho and Kootenay national park trip report.
Great thread -- thanks for posting the trip report! Well done.
Thank you. Always a pleasure sharing places like this.
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08/27/23 08:50pm |
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RE: Parts shortages
I have no issue with some kind of direct sales if that's how they want to go. But looking back (COVID is easy to blame):
1. Chip shortages created havoc; especially for diesel sales. Chips are an outdated design.
2. All this money going into EVs for Ford. It seems the regular cars are propping up the EVs. Lately, Ford's reliability record hasn't been too impressive. Almost as if they're short changing the gas/diesel improvements and quality control.
3. The EVs just aren't impressive. Tesla is light years ahead.
4. Now all these part shortages. Seen a few guys on the Ford truck forums with broken down brand new Super Duties and no guess as to when Ford can get them the part.
I honestly think Farley should step down. But as long as he can redirect public opinion by bringing up some crazy new idea, he'll be able to stay.
Squirrel!
He did make a good decision switching to the Tesla plug for charging. It may give them a fighting chance to stay in business if they have access to the supercharger network. Without it it won’t go well.
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08/27/23 08:49pm |
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RE: Parts shortages
My guess is Jim Farley will come out with some other big announcement about something completely irrelevant to this issue. Anything to deflect problems.
Maybe he'll expand on that whole "selling directly to the consumer" thing.
I think that could happen for their electric vehicles. It would make sense to break it away from ford to better compete with Tesla and Rivian. The lots around here are filling up with Mustang Mach E’s and to a lesser extent the ford lightning. Dealers won’t budge on the price and the Mustang is already overpriced compared to the tesla counterparts. I think the lightning is in a similar situation with the Rivian truck. I wouldn’t be surprised if the second generation lightning is sold exclusively online although I think that’s a couple years away.
Not an expert. JMHO.
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08/27/23 04:21pm |
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RE: In case you wonder
And Tesla is building a BIG battery plant right up the road here in NC to build NEW ones...Nothing mentioned about recycle.
Teslas recycle operations are in Nevada. Always have been. But they only recycle their own which are very few.
Panasonic essentially does part of the process and tesla the rest. Panasonic utilizes the recovered materials. But there are very few batteries to recycle at this point so it’s not a continuous operation.
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08/25/23 02:09pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: In case you wonder
There are a few of these companies operating now including Redwood industries, Li cycle and Tesla itself although tesla only recycled it’s own batteries and the sells the raw materials exclusively to Panasonic which makes them into more tesla batteries.
Lii-cycle is a Canadian company which operates primarily in Europe as well as an operation in Arizona and I think Kingston Canada. They are building additional North American plants though.
Redwood industries is their competitor which was started by an ex tesla exec.
The biggest challenge is getting batteries as vehicle batteries are lasting 4 and 5 times longer than they expected. Teslas new LFP car batteries are considered million mile batteries. And they have zero cobalt.
Interesting times.
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08/25/23 10:27am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Now that's a heavy camper!
I might just be weird, but I would still want a propane fridge and stove top.
Yah I hear you. I actually like the new compressor small 12 volt fridges but one needs proper supporting solar and storage for them. For many, us included, getting that much solar and storage is difficult. I appreciate our 3 way propane fridge…although we have never er used it in 12 volts. We primarily run propane.
One of the big advantages of the 12 volt compressor units is the interiour size for a given footprint. No absorption cooling unit makes for a lot more room inside.
We know our next unit will have a compressor fridge (no choice) but hopefully it will also have an appropriate amount of storage and solar.
Jmho.
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08/23/23 09:48am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Our Tesla/T@B Yoho and Kootenay national park trip report.
Great to see technology developing! Thanks for sharing your wonderful trip.
Thank you Tuna.
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08/23/23 06:57am |
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RE: Our Tesla/T@B Yoho and Kootenay national park trip report.
Beautiful BC, great trip, thanks for sharing!
Our pleasure.
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08/22/23 09:44pm |
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RE: Our Tesla/T@B Yoho and Kootenay national park trip report.
Thank you for posting your trip, I always enjoy seeing your Tesla and trailer out camping. Nice pictures and the story about your trip.
Hope that we all get some rain soon so we can get the fires out.
Amen to that. We have rain coming tonight and hopefully there won’t be lightning with it.
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08/22/23 09:04pm |
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Our Tesla/T@B Yoho and Kootenay national park trip report.
Hi folks. Angela and I just finished a couple week great circle trip from the okanagan valley, up to YOHO, back tracking a bit to Golden and then on to Kootenay national park and then coming home thru the Monashee summit and on thru the Slocan highway back to the Okanagan. With all the side trips it was just under 1900 kilometers, so not a ton of driving this time.
So yes, this is a good route, but you have to be okay with taking a couple ferries as there are a couple lake crossings involved.
We started off with an overnight stay in Golden to touch base with a cousin and then on to Yoho national park for the main event. There are a few campgrounds in Yoho...all unserviced so you need to be self sufficient. They have potable water in many locations and a common sani-dump. Good shower facilities from what we are told although we didn't use them as we are self contained in the trailer. Here are a few pics of the campground and a few of the hikes we did in the area. We were there for 5 days but actually should have stayed 7 as we had to skip a few hikes. Oh well, now we have a reason to go back. We chose an open field site so we could see the mountains but the majority of the sites are in thick forest.
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That's us waaay off on the right.
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All set up for the long haul with spare water jugs and our trusty little 2 kw propane generator to charge the trailer battery. We have solar on the trailer roof but the weather was not always sunny and we were next to the tall trees which made for a short solar day. We ran the genny for about 1/2 an hour a night starting on day 3. We missed the generator hours (5-7) on day 5 so we just plugged the trailer into the tesla and left it in camp mode for the night. The water pump was starting to sound a little sluggish down around 11.8 volts. :) Not ideal but it works.
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This is a view from within the campground. No idea on the name of the mountain. Sorry.
This old bake oven is also in the campground. Lots of railroad and mining history here. And yes you can hear the train in the distance in the campground. Its not that loud.
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This is the centennial trail head in the campground itself. Its a nice easy 3 or 4 kilometers depending where you start. Carry bear spray and make noise.
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Emerald lake hike. Maybe 5 kilometers depending on where you start.
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Hike into Wapta falls. I'm picking and eating thimble berries. Bears love these things so we were on the look out.
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This is tatakwa falls. Easy hike in. Maybe a kilometre max.
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This is Radar the wonder dog. He is 13 years old and does all the hikes with us. We named him after our old air force trade. We bring him even on 8 and 10 kilometre hikes but I carry him in a pack when he gets tired. Angela and I are in our sixties. He is technically 91 years old in dog years. I hope I'm in as good a shape as he is when I'm 91 :)
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For those towing with an electric vehicle like us there are DC fast charge facilities at the Yoho visitors centre about 5 minutes from the campground. We popped out to it the afternoon we arrived and sucked up a few electrons while we were getting trail information. The little historic town of field is right there as well and worth walking around. It took us about an hour last year when we walked the town. Mostly bed and breakfasts' now. This is also a big ski area in winter. We also stopped and charged the last night before we hit the road for Kootenay national park as we burned thru a lot of electrons driving up the yoho valley and into Lake Louise in Alberta. This is a BC hydro station so super reliable...albeit a little slower than many. They are apparently updating it this year to a faster unit. Not complaining. BC hydro is doing a great job of populating the more out of the way highways in BC.
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We went on to Radium and Kootenay national park where we hiked some more but it got smoky there because of forest fires so we moved on to Fort Steele where we hung out for a few days and took in some history. I'll put those pictures up another time. This was our charge stop in Radium which was again right outside the park. BC hydro is getting better at making these accessible for small trailers.
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In fort steele we planned on just renting a 30 amp site but the campground lady noticed we were towing with a Tesla so she offered to upgrade us to a 50 amp site for an extra 10 bucks per night so we could charge on site. We normally just don't plug in the trailer and charge on the 30 amp pedestal at 24 amps but it was hot and we wanted to use the AC so we said sure. We have a special adapter for this situation although we rarely use it. A 14-50 to two TT30 receptacle splitter. The car got one for its 24 amp draw and the trailer got the other leg for its higher load. Worked out great, and it saved us a stop at the supercharger in Cranbrook. We sucked up about 55 kwh that night so it probably would have been about the same cost as the supercharger anyway. :)
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After fort steele we made our way to Kaslo for a few days. Great hiking and lots of history but we again got chased out by the smoke after a few days. Nice little town though.
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One welcome surprise was the Kaslo campground literally last week installed 2 x FLO networked EV charge units at the bath house. I think we were one of the first campers to use them. Handy. 2 bucks an hour. We were all charged up by bedtime on the first night. Nice to see more campgrounds doing this. Not a big deal for us with our little 82 kwh battery but will be nice for the EV trucks coming out with their bigger batteries. (thinking of you Dan :) )
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On to crawford bay and on the ferry across Kootenay lake. We felt very small next to that logging truck. :)
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We stayed in one more campground after the monashee summit and I think this is the picture but not really sure. They all start to look the same after awhile. Anyway, it was a nice spot and we had a little down time before heading home the next day. The smoke returned as we returned to our beautiful okanagan valley but we had some rain today and its getting better now.
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Hope you enjoyed the pics...and i hope I didn't screw up the order of the pics.
Safe camping all.
J and A
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08/22/23 08:26pm |
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RE: NuCamp T@B320 S vs. Little Guy Mini-Max
Hi OTRfun. We don’t have the T@B320 but have a T@B400 with the Alde heat and hot water system . It is a 2022 model. We have camped roughly 110 days in it in the last 18 months and regularly use the Alde both on propane and electric. It has not had any problems and does a good job.
We also haven’t had any problem with the AC unit but don’t use it much.
The T@B has been trouble free after more than 22000 kilometres all over Canada and extensively in BC. Not a single glitch although the outside black moulding along the top pulled away a bit on top. I pushed it back in and it has been fine since then.
Hope you find what you are looking for.Nice rig! Good to hear you've been happy with your T@B.
According to NuCamp you have to flush the Alde glycol system every two years. Any idea what this would cost if not done DIY?
I have heard anywhere from 300 to 600. We will be doing it ourselves so probably around 50 bucks in fluid costs.
Our tech also said every four years is more than adequate so we’ll be going with that schedule. Personal choice.
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07/26/23 08:41pm |
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