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Topic: Seemingly unsafe location of water pump?
Posted By: moonlitsouls on 04/11/21 08:40pm

Hey guys take a look at this. I was pulling some panels apart a to troubleshoot my solar panels and I found my water pump next to a lot of electrical components, this cannot be safe ?

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Posted By: Old-Biscuit on 04/11/21 09:52pm

Gotta put it somewhere........

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Posted By: travisc on 04/11/21 09:56pm

It’s sealed,

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Posted By: moonlitsouls on 04/11/21 09:56pm

Old-Biscuit wrote:

Gotta put it somewhere........


That’s what she said

Posted By: moonlitsouls on 04/11/21 09:58pm

travisc wrote:

It’s sealed,



Cool just making sure this is normal , it seems counterintuitive to put electrical components next to water

Posted By: Reality Check on 04/11/21 10:18pm

moonlitsouls wrote:

travisc wrote:

It’s sealed,



Cool just making sure this is normal , it seems counterintuitive to put electrical components next to water


lol, then don't ever look in a ditch at the way half the world's utilities are run...

Seriously, you've got plumbing and electrical running next to each other, over each other, around each other all over your house. Out of sight, out of mind.

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Posted By: time2roll on 04/11/21 10:40pm

Looks like all 12 volts. No big deal.

Take a shower in my Uncle's basement and you will really wonder what is safe. Shower head is about 18" from the main electric panel and the soap dish is right next to it. You could throw the main breaker while you wash your hair. Been that way 50 years and nobody seems to think much of it.

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Posted By: joerg68 on 04/11/21 11:58pm

The water pump doesn't concern me. But overall it doesn't look very orderly at all.
The way the jack controller rests loosely on some balled up wires doesn't look very reassuring.
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Posted By: rlw999 on 04/12/21 12:33am

That pump doesn't look too bad, it's screwed in place so it's not going anywhere.

More concerning is that black controller box that doesn't look like it's mounted to anything at all so it's free to flop around, supported only by the wires.

And it's hard to tell from the picture if those terminals that plug into it are covered by clear plastic or if they are bare. But if they are bare, I'd put some electrical tape over them.

Posted By: GDS-3950BH on 04/12/21 01:59am

Don't look at the rats nest behind the converter, you might stroke out if you do. Why worry, don't you have an RVIA seal telling you how all plumbing, HVAC, and electrical along with fire safety is up to snuff? It is because they said so. What is the copper line? Propane?

Posted By: larry cad on 04/12/21 03:51am

Keep in mind that the water pump runs on electricity. Water and electricity are intimately close to each other. Having said that, I wonder if the tech at the factory is proud of that wiring and plumbing job. Typical factory work.

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Posted By: Geewizard on 04/12/21 04:58am

What brand of camper? What year of camper?

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Posted By: Geo*Boy on 04/12/21 07:00am

Geewizard wrote:

What brand of camper? What year of camper?

It’s an Eagle Cap. Scary.

Posted By: NRALIFR on 04/12/21 07:30am

Show me an RV that doesn’t look like that in its “unseen” cubbyholes.

The only reason mine looks somewhat orderly in those areas is because I cleaned them up.

Under my galley sink is a combination of water lines, drain plumbing, water heater, water pump, jack controller, DC-DC charger, propane line, high and low voltage wiring, CB’s, fuses and switches all in close proximity. I keep a close eye on that area for leaks, and in the almost 20 years that I’ve owned this camper there have been a few.

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Posted By: jimh406 on 04/12/21 08:21am

Just to clarify, water pumps typically run on 12V-DC in an RV not AC. Low voltage DC is not anywhere near as dangerous as AC with respect to a human. That block sure looks like it could be AC with copper and white cable. That being said, I’ve never seen someone use an uncovered AC block, so it could be DC. RVs I’ve seen usually use red/black for 12V. It might be worth calling/emailing Eagle Cap to see what that block is.

You are always going to at least have the DC connectors to the water pump because that’s how it’s powered. Not that I’ve seen every water pump install in every RV, but I’ve never seen one in a compartment with many other connections either AC or DC. That will be a pain to replace in the future if needed.

Not that my Host didn’t use the minimum length of cable which annoys me, but it’s much cleaner than that. They obviously didn’t expect anyone to ever work/add to the wiring or tap into the subpanel. I guess that’s ok considering none of the factory plugs/lights have failed in the 15 years I’ve had it.

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Posted By: Grit dog on 04/12/21 08:34am

It's normal.

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Posted By: moonlitsouls on 04/12/21 01:23pm

Thanks for the replies. I agree it is very messy and that definitely bothers my OCD. I’ll clean it up eventually. But for now I got bigger fish to fry, like where I’m going to mount my inverter and my lithium battery bank. Will make a new thread with photos and try to get some more eyes on this.

Posted By: mkirsch on 04/13/21 06:44am

People have this idea that the presence of electricity near water equals electrocution, period. The whole thing of pouring water on something electrical and everyone in the vicinity being fried like chicken only happens in cartoons and low budget action movies.

The conditions where it's dangerous are pretty specific. As with anything electrical you need a circuit, in the case of AC, a path to ground. For example, standing in a puddle of water and touching an improperly wired fixture. With 12V DC you won't even feel it.

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Posted By: larry cad on 04/13/21 11:27am

Water and electricity isn't the problem. It's water and the corrosion that it makes. Actually electricity and corrosion isn't a super bad problem. Now, talk about electricity and high resistance and you have a problem. High resistance 12v connections caused by corrosion, with lots of amps available can create heat. Heat can cause fires. If that all happens, they you have a real problem.



Oh, and that does happen. Not often certainly. But then, how many times do you really want it to happen?

Posted By: thomasmnile on 04/13/21 11:33am

The Amish Craftsmanship you don't see until you remove the "lipstick" offn the "pig".

Posted By: Geo*Boy on 04/13/21 06:26pm

thomasmnile wrote:

The Amish Craftsmanship you don't see until you remove the "lipstick" offn the "pig".

How did the Amish get involved?

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