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Topic: Six-point leveling system -- reduce rocking

Posted By: TenOC on 12/21/20 09:33am

We have a new to us 36-foot 5th wheel with a 6-point self-leveling stabilizer system. Our previous 5th wheel had manual stabilizing jacks equipped with the JT StrongArm stabilizers, and we really loved the strongarm stabilizers. When we had a travel trailer to reduce the rocking motion, we would manually crank up the stabilizing jacks to take some weight off of the springs and tires. I assume I could manually do much the same with the self-leveling 6-point system, but I have not figured out how yet.

This anyone have real life experience with the JT strong-arm stabilizers mounted to a 6 point self-leveling system?

Any other suggestions on reducing the rocking motion are very welcome.


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Posted By: valhalla360 on 12/21/20 09:59am

Friends have them on their 6 point...doesn't look difficult. Just make sure to go around and release them prior to activating the system.


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Posted By: Super_Dave on 12/21/20 10:50am

Are you asking from experience with the new 6 point? We have the 6 point and have no movement with no additions.


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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 12/21/20 11:13am

To reduce movement make some nice 3/4" plywood boxes as I made. The shorter the ram extends the more stable it is 24k setting on the 6 boxes.

Note tires not touching the ground.

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Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/21/20 11:20am

show off ! [emoticon]

I use old 8" square lumber cut to 10" ..Like Rons stated above, the shorter those rams extend, the more stable you will be..

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Posted By: RobWNY on 12/21/20 03:24pm

Our previous 5th wheel only had the front landing gear and the rear stabilizer jacks. I used X-Chocks which did very little and I had a tripod on the king pin that didn't do anything either. Our new 5th wheel has the 6 point system and it's rock solid without any add-ons. I don't have wood blocks like others that have replied here but I use a whole stack of lynx levelers under each jack pad. I was pleasantly surprised how stable the rig is.

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Posted By: Campinghoss@51 on 12/21/20 05:54pm

Ours has the 6 point system and JT strong arms. Stable and not an issue.


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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 12/21/20 08:58pm

ford truck guy wrote:



show off ! [emoticon]

I use old 8" square lumber cut to 10" ..Like Rons stated above, the shorter those rams extend, the more stable you will be..


Take a trip out West and we can make you a set.

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Posted By: azdryheat on 12/21/20 09:57pm

If you're using the common LCI system do the following once you have leveled your trailer: Turn on the control box. Scroll up or down till you find 'Manual Mode' and press enter. You can now manually extend the jacks to the height you need.

One other idea I incorporated on my toy hauler was adding scissor jacks on the extreme rear of the trailer to add stability when the rear garage/bedroom was occupied.


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Posted By: Splashers3 on 12/22/20 04:48am

I used 6 x 6s about a foot long. I also added nice sturdy handles that make it very easy to carry them to and from my truck bed. I use these in order to reduce the chance of getting 6 pt leveling stoke error.


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Posted By: TenOC on 12/22/20 07:07am

Cummins12V98 wrote:

To reduce movement make some nice 3/4" plywood boxes as I made. The shorter the ram extends the more stable it is 24k setting on the 6 boxes.

Note tires not touching the ground.



Cummins12V98 How do you adjust the six-point system so that it "automatically" raises the RV past the 1st level point to take the weight off of the tires? Or do you do this manually?


Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/22/20 07:48am

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:



show off ! [emoticon]

I use old 8" square lumber cut to 10" ..Like Rons stated above, the shorter those rams extend, the more stable you will be..


Take a trip out West and we can make you a set.


IF and WHEN I get out there, your gonna hook me up with some of those Crab and shrimp FIRST ! ! ! [emoticon]

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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 12/22/20 09:03am

TenOC wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

To reduce movement make some nice 3/4" plywood boxes as I made. The shorter the ram extends the more stable it is 24k setting on the 6 boxes.

Note tires not touching the ground.



Cummins12V98 How do you adjust the six-point system so that it "automatically" raises the RV past the 1st level point to take the weight off of the tires? Or do you do this manually?


I use the manual mode. Hit arrow up symbol then press enter to start manual mode.


Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 12/22/20 09:04am

ford truck guy wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:



show off ! [emoticon]

I use old 8" square lumber cut to 10" ..Like Rons stated above, the shorter those rams extend, the more stable you will be..


Take a trip out West and we can make you a set.


IF and WHEN I get out there, your gonna hook me up with some of those Crab and shrimp FIRST ! ! ! [emoticon]


Maybe even some Salmon.

HMMM you were "edited"


Posted By: ACZL on 12/22/20 09:20am

I as well made up wooden packs out of 2x10x16". Screwed 2 together, added a handle and wholla. Like Cummins and FTG, place them under the legs as needed to reduce the gap between pad and ground. Overall w/ a 41' coach we get some wiggle, but nothing we cringe about. But as the old saying goes: "If the camper's a rockin'----don't come a knockin'"!

FTG---if you go out west, ya might need to get a dually! LOL Personally, I'm a shrimp kind of guy, but will settle for a nice burger or steak. Have that on the menu Cummins?


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Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/22/20 10:11am

ACZL wrote:

I as well made up wooden packs out of 2x10x16". Screwed 2 together, added a handle and wholla. Like Cummins and FTG, place them under the legs as needed to reduce the gap between pad and ground. Overall w/ a 41' coach we get some wiggle, but nothing we cringe about. But as the old saying goes: "If the camper's a rockin'----don't come a knockin'"!

FTG---if you go out west, ya might need to get a dually! LOL Personally, I'm a shrimp kind of guy, but will settle for a nice burger or steak. Have that on the menu Cummins?


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Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/22/20 10:12am

Cummins12V98 wrote:



Maybe even some Salmon.

HMMM you were "edited"


Yes... because I just 'QUOTED" your post along with the pics.... the mods don't always like multiple quoting....

Like this one.[emoticon]

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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 12/23/20 12:45pm

" I'm a shrimp kind of guy, but will settle for a nice burger or steak. Have that on the menu Cummins?"

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Posted By: learntorv on 12/23/20 01:22pm

Anyway, coming back around to the original post. I had a lot of movement with our 6 point leveling system and family of 4 in our toy hauler. I always wanted to add the Steadyfast system but haven't gotten around to it.


Posted By: cummins2014 on 12/23/20 06:05pm

learntorv wrote:

Anyway, coming back around to the original post. I had a lot of movement with our 6 point leveling system and family of 4 in our toy hauler. I always wanted to add the Steadyfast system but haven't gotten around to it.


Got a set sitting In my garage, I built a set ,I copied the Steadyfast . Took them off my previous fifth wheel , planned on putting them on the one we have now , but with the 6 point level up I feel like they are not needed . But there is only two of us .


Posted By: CabinetmakerII on 12/25/20 09:11am

We bought our new DRV in October which is equipped with a 6 point leveling system which I admit I am still learning hoe to use it. The systems legs are installed with a 5/3 degree splay outward at the bottom to help stabilize the coach. As mentioned by others, I placed a stack of leveling blocks under each jack to shorten the throw and help minimize the movement felt inside. We still had some unwanted movement inside so I placed screw jacks under the factory installed hitch at the rear of the coach and used our king pin tripod on the front. Finally a rock solid coach with no movement. Still thinking about installing JT Strong arms however.


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Posted By: cummins2014 on 12/25/20 03:50pm

CabinetmakerII wrote:

We bought our new DRV in October which is equipped with a 6 point leveling system which I admit I am still learning hoe to use it. The systems legs are installed with a 5/3 degree splay outward at the bottom to help stabilize the coach. As mentioned by others, I placed a stack of leveling blocks under each jack to shorten the throw and help minimize the movement felt inside. We still had some unwanted movement inside so I placed screw jacks under the factory installed hitch at the rear of the coach and used our king pin tripod on the front. Finally a rock solid coach with no movement. Still thinking about installing JT Strong arms however.


Same here, the screw jacks at the rear under the receiver hitch , they may make the difference, but we’re on mine when bought . Mine is pretty solid , no movement that I really noticed.


Posted By: ACZL on 12/27/20 07:20am

Back when we had a Silverback, another Creek owner had JT's that he added to his 6pt and said it made a diff. Don't recall how long it took him to install it tho.


Posted By: cummins2014 on 12/28/20 02:31pm

ACZL wrote:

Back when we had a Silverback, another Creek owner had JT's that he added to his 6pt and said it made a diff. Don't recall how long it took him to install it tho.


I'm curious as to how they attach the JT swivel bracket to the pads on the level up . They pretty much sit flat on the ground. Possibly weld the bolts on ???


Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/28/20 02:33pm

cummins2014 wrote:

ACZL wrote:

Back when we had a Silverback, another Creek owner had JT's that he added to his 6pt and said it made a diff. Don't recall how long it took him to install it tho.


I'm curious as to how they attach the JT swivel bracket to the pads on the level up . They pretty much sit flat on the ground. Possibly weld the bolts on ???


I am curious as well, I would think that they would have had to weld them to the pads, No other way to secure them in my eyes..?? [emoticon]


Posted By: ford truck guy on 12/28/20 02:35pm

valhalla360 wrote:

Friends have them on their 6 point...doesn't look difficult. Just make sure to go around and release them prior to activating the system.


duplicate post, SORRY. [emoticon]


Posted By: cummins2014 on 12/28/20 04:02pm

ford truck guy wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

ACZL wrote:

Back when we had a Silverback, another Creek owner had JT's that he added to his 6pt and said it made a diff. Don't recall how long it took him to install it tho.


I'm curious as to how they attach the JT swivel bracket to the pads on the level up . They pretty much sit flat on the ground. Possibly weld the bolts on ???


I am curious as well, I would think that they would have had to weld them to the pads, No other way to secure them in my eyes..?? [emoticon]


If I remember a friend had those add on pads , but I believe they still welded the bolts on .,I’ll check with him and get back with an answer


Posted By: ACZL on 12/28/20 06:30pm

I'm sorry I don't recall how he attached them. This was back several years ago.


Posted By: cummins2014 on 12/28/20 08:24pm

The friends , they welded the bolt to the top of the foot pad .


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