Interested in hearing from those that are using their SRW or DRW 1T truck STOCK without any modifications to haul their TC.
EDIT: I should add context. After reading this and other TC Forums for years I've come to the conclusion that just about EVERYONE mods their truck to better carry their TC. (even the 450x and 550x folks but for this poll they don't count, I'm only interested in 1T truck owners with TC)
This is what lead me to ask: who does NOT modify their truck to carry their TC?
Thanks in advance,
- Mark0.
* This post was edited 06/26/20 04:32pm by mbloof *
I put on similar mods to my F450 only because I wanted the ability to level the rig with a trailer attached.
'10 Ford F-450, 6.4, 4.30, 4x4, 14,500 GVWR, '06 Host Rainer 950 DS, Torklift Talon tiedowns, Glow Steps, and Fastguns. Bilstein 4600s, Firestone Bags, Toyo M655 Gs, Curt front hitch, Energy Suspension bump stops.
NRA Life Member, CCA Life Member
2013 Chevy 3500HD CC dually
2014 Voltage 3600 toy hauler
2019 RZR 1000XP TRE
2005 Silverado 3500 SRW with Eagle Cap 950, usually towing a 6x10 cargo trailer.
azdryheat wrote:
It's not a TC but my 5th wheel puts 3500 (scaled) pounds on the rear axle - similar to a TC. No mods needed.
It's not a TC but my 5th wheel puts 3500 (scaled) pounds on the rear axle - similar to a TC. No mods needed.
Not really, TC load is top heavy.
azdryheat wrote:
It's not a TC but my 5th wheel puts 3500 (scaled) pounds on the rear axle - similar to a TC. No mods needed.
It's not a TC but my 5th wheel puts 3500 (scaled) pounds on the rear axle - similar to a TC. No mods needed.
Sorry but no. I was specifically asking in a TC forum about TC hauling with a stock truck.
- Mark0.
03 Chevy 3500 LT DRW D/A CC LB 4x4
03 Lance 1130
Special ordered from Chevy. Modeled after an article in truck camper magazine where they went to length ordering their own SRW TC hauler. We have a dry 3300lb plus Wolf Creek 840. Only mods, move spare tire to a front carrier .
2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags
I have no modifications to the rig and the factory springs do not touch the overload bump-stops
(You were probably looking for someone with a heavier load, sorry)
Fishbreath wrote:
I run a stock 2019 GMC 3500 6.0 Gasser and haul a Nortstar Pop up with a wet weight of 2200 lbs.
I have no modifications to the rig and the factory springs do not touch the overload bump-stops
(You were probably looking for someone with a heavier load, sorry)
I run a stock 2019 GMC 3500 6.0 Gasser and haul a Nortstar Pop up with a wet weight of 2200 lbs.
I have no modifications to the rig and the factory springs do not touch the overload bump-stops
(You were probably looking for someone with a heavier load, sorry)
- Someone with a TC? Check!
- Someone with unmodified truck? Check!
Thanks!
- Mark0
Going Gas: a diesel owners experience
There are few 1 Ton trucks from the factory that can carry well over 6000#. I can't be happier.
Rick
2019 F-350 4WD Crew Cab DRW 6.2 l gas engine (6500 lbs cargo capacity!)
2007 LanceMax 1181 loaded, King memory foam mattress (driver's side locker omitted).
"Leave the trail a little better than you found it."
- Helwig Bigwig rear sway bar
- front springs from an F550
-Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks
-upper and lower Torklift stableloads
-19.5 Vision wheels with commercial Michlens. Load range H, 16 ply, 120 PSI. Drive treads on the rear, but steer treads on the front (quieter) Supposed to be good for 100k.
Still just didn't feel safe at times, especially on tight to moderate highway curves. Finally went with Firestone airbags as the last thing. I wish it had of been the first thing I did. Slideout (dinette & 8cu/ft fridge) are on pass. side so 55 psi over there. Then 50 PSI on driver side. SO MUCH BETTER.
We have taken it to Yellowstone, then Vancouver Island and back through Canada. One month in Nfld. Two trips to Sarasota, Florida. All good now. Lessons learned. Take care. Be safe.
Slymer wrote:
To help handle the AF811 I did the following;
To help handle the AF811 I did the following;
While all neat and wonderful, I have to ask what does any of that have anything to do with a thread about NOT MODIFYING your truck? (using a STOCK truck)
Off topic.
- Mark0.
(we all already know that there are tons of us that did modifications)
Way more stable than any of the modded srw trucks I've had before.
2005 arctic fox 990 silverfox
2008 Silverado ltz drw duramax 6speed allison
1999 Kodiak k99 / 2008 ford f450 6spd manual. SOLD
2000 citation supreme SOLD
1989 camperette SOLD
1985 okanagan SOLD
1990 northern lite SOLD
1995 northern lite SOLD
1997 Kodiak k99 SOLD
2014 Dodge Ram 3500 CC, CTD, SRW
2010 NORTHERN-LITE 10-2 SPECIAL EDITION)
Libby, 2 yr Boxer/Hound mix learning to travel
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed
No mods.
Edit: Cab and chassis F-350's have different rear suspension than won ton pickups. Stacked leaf packs vs long taper leaf. 3000lbs camper and overload leaf just touches. Stock wheels, tire size, shocks all round.
* This post was edited 06/28/20 11:29am by noteven *
Our truck is bone stock, with the slight exception that the worn original shocks were replaced with Bilsteins. But a Northstar Arrow is a comparatively light camper that handled just fine on our equally stock Chevy 2500 HD that we had before the current F-350 SRW.
2014 Ford F350 XLT 6.2 SCLB + 2017 Northstar Arrow
Steve
2014 F350 6.7 Platinum
2016 Cougar 330RBK
1991 Slumberqueen WS100
As an example, in the Facebook Northernlite Forum where I was able to poll the same question (with greater granularity) the responses so far are out of 90 users (that responded) 44 are using 1T trucks without any modifications to haul their NL.
- Mark0.
I think it goes without saying, the heavier the truck camper the more likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
The lighter the truck camper the less likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
There's a massive difference between hauling a 1,500 lb. popup truck camper and a 5,000 lb. double slide truck camper.
This poll was just out of boredom or something....idk.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold
otrfun wrote:
mbloof, in the context of your question, isn't knowing the weight/size of the truck camper also important?
I think it goes without saying, the heavier the truck camper the more likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
The lighter the truck camper the less likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
There's a massive difference between hauling a 1,500 lb. popup truck camper and a 5,000 lb. double slide truck camper.
mbloof, in the context of your question, isn't knowing the weight/size of the truck camper also important?
I think it goes without saying, the heavier the truck camper the more likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
The lighter the truck camper the less likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
There's a massive difference between hauling a 1,500 lb. popup truck camper and a 5,000 lb. double slide truck camper.
Actually the size and model of camper is meaningless.
As consumer trucks are a engineering compromise of use cases and while we would like to think that camper hauling is a 'large' use case, it is actually one of the smaller ones.
It is my theory that just about everybody makes modifications to their truck to carry a camper. (not including the required tie downs and optional extra 7-pin connector)
Given the world wide nature of this forum and the dismal responses of folks that don't modify their trucks, I'll claim that it is rare that a truck owner does NOT modify their truck for truck camper hauling duty.
- Mark0.
mbloof wrote:
As consumer trucks are a engineering compromise of use cases and while we would like to think that camper hauling is a 'large' use case, it is actually one of the smaller ones.
It is my theory that just about everybody makes modifications to their truck to carry a camper. (not including the required tie downs and optional extra 7-pin connector)
Given the world wide nature of this forum and the dismal responses of folks that don't modify their trucks, I'll claim that it is rare that a truck owner does NOT modify their truck for truck camper hauling duty.
- Mark0.
Wow, you kinda lost me. Maybe you were trying to confirm the obvious? Regardless, hope you find the info you're looking for otrfun wrote:
mbloof, in the context of your question, isn't knowing the weight/size of the truck camper also important?
I think it goes without saying, the heavier the truck camper the more likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
The lighter the truck camper the less likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
There's a massive difference between hauling a 1,500 lb. popup truck camper and a 5,000 lb. double slide truck camper.
Actually the size and model of camper is meaningless.mbloof, in the context of your question, isn't knowing the weight/size of the truck camper also important?
I think it goes without saying, the heavier the truck camper the more likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
The lighter the truck camper the less likely someone will modify their 1-ton truck to haul it.
There's a massive difference between hauling a 1,500 lb. popup truck camper and a 5,000 lb. double slide truck camper.
As consumer trucks are a engineering compromise of use cases and while we would like to think that camper hauling is a 'large' use case, it is actually one of the smaller ones.
It is my theory that just about everybody makes modifications to their truck to carry a camper. (not including the required tie downs and optional extra 7-pin connector)
Given the world wide nature of this forum and the dismal responses of folks that don't modify their trucks, I'll claim that it is rare that a truck owner does NOT modify their truck for truck camper hauling duty.
- Mark0.
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2007 Tiffin Allegro 30DA
2011 Ford Ranger
1987 HD FLHTP
mountainkowboy wrote:
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
I was looking for unmodified trucks my friend.
- Mark0.
My new DRW and camper on the truck the first time.
As I mentioned above, I did replace the shocks and eventually the tires but with no major notable difference with the shocks and the tires were the same size and load rating as the worn out OEM tires.
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2022 Ram 3500 Laramie CTD DRW Crew 4x4 Aisin 4:10 Air ride.
2020 Grand Design Solitude 2930RL 2520 watts solar. 600ah lithium. Magnum 4000 watt inverter.
1996 Bigfoot 2500 9.5 on a 2004 Dodge/Cummins dually
I think our camper is around 4000lbs loaded up ready to roll.
2005 Dodge 3500
2001 Lance 1030
2006 Cougar 29RL
wnjj wrote:
For clarification, do you consider shocks to be a modification or not? They replace a stock part with an equivalent or better but since they are also a wear item you could consider them just replacements. The same question goes for the tires I suppose.
As I mentioned above, I did replace the shocks and eventually the tires but with no major notable difference with the shocks and the tires were the same size and load rating as the worn out OEM tires.
For clarification, do you consider shocks to be a modification or not? They replace a stock part with an equivalent or better but since they are also a wear item you could consider them just replacements. The same question goes for the tires I suppose.
As I mentioned above, I did replace the shocks and eventually the tires but with no major notable difference with the shocks and the tires were the same size and load rating as the worn out OEM tires.
I'm of the thinking that 'wear items' are just that. If they wore out and you replaced them then you are not modifying your truck.
In my case the OEM tires were boarder line at best and underrated at worse. I upgraded them and count that as a modification.
- Mark0.
2017 Host mammoth, sold
49 states, 41 National Parks, 7 Provinces
2019 2 door Rubicon 6 spd.
2019 Berkshire XLT 45B
2022 Host Cascade
2021 Ram 5500 Air ride
mbloof wrote:
I was looking for unmodified trucks my friend.
- Mark0.
mountainkowboy wrote:
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
I was looking for unmodified trucks my friend.
- Mark0.
stock it was fine but sat dead level.......this is completely stock.
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mountainkowboy wrote:
stock it was fine but sat dead level.......this is completely stock.
mbloof wrote:
I was looking for unmodified trucks my friend.
- Mark0.
mountainkowboy wrote:
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
Upper stableloads, Bilstein shocks, and load range "E" tires.....4,500lb TC loaded and ready to camp. 12 years and 55K+.
I was looking for unmodified trucks my friend.
- Mark0.
stock it was fine but sat dead level.......this is completely stock.
So you can be counted as one of the few.
I used my new 2017 stock for ~100miles. (that was ENOUGH!)
- Mark0.