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MEXICOWANDERER

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Posted: 11/11/20 09:10am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/E........k-during-fall-winter-indoor-15714478.php

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I dislike the above linked article a lot less than other published work because it deals with the reality of PPM versus time of exposure. The spectre of an asymptomatic is lessened by the fact of yes or no -- are they with immediate family members? The chances of encountering an immune clan cannot be great. Unlike alpha radioactivity opening windows greatly reduces PPM of atmospheric viral load if a slight breeze is created.

I plan to tread very lightly after Thanksgiving. A minimum of ten days to see how the newly infected published numbers pan out. BLACK FRIDAY BARGAINS solely electronically. I will find declining invitations to attend tiny gatherings of friends painful. But the risk and the penalty is just too awful. If things look encouraging by, say, 10 December then I shall risk an extremely limited number of visits.

Meanwhile I will keep chanting to myself "AIRSPACE VIRAL LOAD TIMES MINUTES OF EXPOSURE

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Posted: 11/11/20 10:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

High-Efficiency Particulate Air Filters ........e Era of COVID-19: Function and Efficacy

Performance analysis of portable HEPA filters and temporary plastic anterooms on the spread of surrogate coronavirus
Building and Environment
Volume 183, October 2020, 107186


Could Air Filtration Reduce COVID-19 Severity and Spread?

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How can airborne transmission of COVID-19 indoors be minimised?
Environment International
Volume 142, September 2020, 105832


Portable consumer air cleaning devices may be beneficial in smaller rooms, although it should be recognised that such devices must be appropriately sized for the space (Miller-Leiden et al., 1996). There is wide variation in performance of air cleaners depending on air cleaner design and size of room in which it is used (Shaughnessy and Sextro, 2006). A useful metric for determining performance is the clean air delivery rate, which is equivalent to the volumetric flow rate of particle-free air produced by the air cleaner (Foarde, 1999). Kujundzic et al. (2006) reported air cleaners were similarly effective against removing both airborne bacterial and fungal spores from the air at clean air delivery rates of between 26 and 980 m3/h corresponding to effective cleaning of between 5 and 189 m3 room volumes respectively.


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Posted: 11/11/20 10:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My sisters test came back positive. Her son (living at home) has the same symptoms; he’s waiting for an appointment to be tested. Now parents will get tested.

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I shudder to think how many HEPA-2 units would be needed in a 14 x 20 dining room with 12 dinner participants which of course means being maskless seated at a table, passing food and utensils. The only defense and it's weak is knowledge about current history of relatives. "Pardon me uncle Phil, while I take your temperature?" A family agreement to maintain closer than normal contact for 10-days after the holiday? A rational plan is hard to come by. Seat folks over 60 at a separate table? Limit contact with small children? Dang this cursed virus.

The highly hyped Pfizer serum ran up against a formidable roadblock with the requirement that the serum must be maintained at -179F cryo storage temperature. This is a mere one hundred one degree colder than dry ice. The last time I priced a serum storage unit it was tiny and priced at well over three thousand dollars.

All remaining of this month and all of next month is going to be needed to work out details of distribution. First comes a landslide need to inoculate health care workers, firemen, police, the military, and curse me for mentioning this, government federal, state and local. Arguing about this won't do a damned thing to change it so keep it under your hat. I am going to imagine my unfavorite politician as playing the part of the Guinea pig.

Won't it be nice to hug the children and grandchildren without fear? Sit down inside a real restaurant? No lines, or distancing at stores? I've quarantined since January: 9 months. 2 more ain't gonna kill me.

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Mex,

Liquid nitrogen is -320 F for a boiling point.

Pfizer is claiming a storage temperature of -94 f for storage.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt........ort-for-some-asian-nations-idUSKBN27Q1G1

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Posted: 11/11/20 07:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Shipping is with dry ice.

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Geezo.
Johns Hopkins made a very clear 100 degree boo boo in their newsletter. Dry ice solidified carbon dioxide is light years easier to deal with. Thanks for the cheering news. I've been bummed out since I read that -179°F figure. Cryo is a nightmare incarnate. I've dabbled with it. J.H. has 4 newsletters and yeah I stared at it with my glasses on. Thank goodness.

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Planes, trucks and ultracold boxes: Pfizer preps massive COVID-19 vaccine distribution effort
Fierce Pharma Oct 21, 2020

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the company designed suitcase-sized shipping containers that will keep its doses at ultracold temperatures for up to 10 days. Each container holds between 1,000 and 5,000 doses, the newspaper reports.


What we know about Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine distribution plan
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The boxes will be outfitted with a GPS tracker that will allow the company to track the shipments from a control tower where the company will work to ensure shipments don't experience temperature diversions. The box can then be refilled with dry ice at the dosing location to keep the vaccine at the correct temperature for storage.


Distribution to more remote locations and locations that do not have -80C freezers for on-site storage is the real challenge.

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Advancements in vacuum panel design and construction have made super cold transportation and storage a rational Avenue. This is the insulation of my dreams. Where a one inch thickness of chamber equals six inches of R the best closed cell foam. Doubled, the vacuum cell is awesome but for general use it's price is frightening. Cruising sail boats have been using the technology for a decade. But the last time I checked the price a 12" x 20" chamber cost many hundreds of dollars and they cannot be user assembled. It, and space shuttle tile insulation have to reside in my imagination.

I just followed the link above and trans-border shipment was mentioned. Perhaps for the ultra-wealthy in México. Both the president and secretary of health have reiterated that the Oxford AstraZeneca 1222 serum will be the 1st choice. AZ has a huge plant in D.F. and has promised near-free inoculations with one of México's wealthy patrons Carlos Slim Helu bankrolling the effort.

PERSONALLY Pfizer has a way to go proofing their serum. Three months total is absurdly short in my opinion. I would look for a release clearance sometime around June 2021. This would give Phase III trials a bare minimum of time. It is quite possible the efficacy percentage can decline significantly. Human beings are notoriously unstable.
Elon Musk and his support of a novel RNA designer vaccine now occupies the front burner in the medical interest world. The Times They Are A Changing...

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