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bucky wrote:
Pretty nice for a day cab.
Pretty nice for a day cab.
Bit like a Volvo
NutHouse2016 wrote:
Steering wheel is on wrong side for you Aussie's. We will see how itdoes inservice.
Steering wheel is on wrong side for you Aussie's. We will see how itdoes inservice.
This type of truck has been around for a while. It is a new design and you are right it has the steering wheel on the opposite side to us. Engine is all Ford and new
gbopp wrote:
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
RobertRyan wrote:
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
gbopp wrote:
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
It is a Ford H62X Cargo.
Looks nice, and I miss seeing the old heavy duty cabovers like the Ford W9000. However, they don't make much sense here when a conventional cab achieves much better fuel economy due to being more aerodynamic. Luckily, our roads and infrastructure are big enough for conventional trucks while most of the roads in other country's are not. Hence the reason for cabovers in other country's.
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Cabovers have fallen out of favor on class 8 trucks in North America, limited room for emission equipment and they tend to overhear due to lack off air flow. I never liked driving a co, too hard on the back and kidneys.
Dennis Hoppert
First trucks I drove were cabover Mack and Volvo's with no power steering.
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ShinerBock wrote:
It is a Ford H62X Cargo.
Looks nice, and I miss seeing the old heavy duty cabovers like the Ford W9000. However, they don't make much sense here when a conventional cab achieves much better fuel economy due to being more aerodynamic. Luckily, our roads and infrastructure are big enough for conventional trucks while most of the roads in other country's are not. Hence the reason for cabovers in other country's.
RobertRyan wrote:
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
gbopp wrote:
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
It is a Ford H62X Cargo.
Looks nice, and I miss seeing the old heavy duty cabovers like the Ford W9000. However, they don't make much sense here when a conventional cab achieves much better fuel economy due to being more aerodynamic. Luckily, our roads and infrastructure are big enough for conventional trucks while most of the roads in other country's are not. Hence the reason for cabovers in other country's.
No it is not a Ford Cargo. Convential Trucks are dying here in Australia Size of the roads has nothing to do with it. This will not end up in Europe, but their they have very narrow cabs for narrow streets. Turkey has wide roads and other parts of North Asia do as well
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4x4ord wrote:
That's a big engine for a little truck.
That's a big engine for a little truck.
This was meant for Eurasia, that includes Turktey, par for the course for Class 8's outside NA
mich800 wrote:
Too bad no one could use it in the U.S. Wheelbase is too short to tow anything but a popup camper.
Too bad no one could use it in the U.S. Wheelbase is too short to tow anything but a popup camper.
The European rigs like the Volvo HD has a 350 ton from the factory, American version of the Volvo is only used in NA. That hitch is a low loader, rarely use Goosenecks in Europe
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SidecarFlip wrote:
I think it's butt ugly. Having driven Class 8 trucks for 30 years, I prefer a conventional. Don't want to be first on the scene with the radiator cap in an accident.
Hard on the knees.
I think it's butt ugly. Having driven Class 8 trucks for 30 years, I prefer a conventional. Don't want to be first on the scene with the radiator cap in an accident.
Hard on the knees.
The modern European Cabover HD truck, ride better are safer, better on Fuel Economy, than a Conventional Truck. That is why they are replacing the Kenworth , Western Star,etc here. Kenworth now makes a Cabover its most popular model,although it makes many conventials for traditional Australian buyers. Volvo has an Australian designed Mack and IVECO the Powerstar Conventional for traditional Truck owners
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IVECO Stralis Cabover
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romore wrote:
Cabovers have fallen out of favor on class 8 trucks in North America, limited room for emission equipment and they tend to overhear due to lack off air flow. I never liked driving a co, too hard on the back and kidneys.
Cabovers have fallen out of favor on class 8 trucks in North America, limited room for emission equipment and they tend to overhear due to lack off air flow. I never liked driving a co, too hard on the back and kidneys.No problems here and last I heard Australia is a hot country so is most of Asia
RobertRyan wrote:
No it is not a Ford Cargo. Convential Trucks are dying here. Size of the roads has noting yo fo ehy
ShinerBock wrote:
It is a Ford H62X Cargo.
Looks nice, and I miss seeing the old heavy duty cabovers like the Ford W9000. However, they don't make much sense here when a conventional cab achieves much better fuel economy due to being more aerodynamic. Luckily, our roads and infrastructure are big enough for conventional trucks while most of the roads in other country's are not. Hence the reason for cabovers in other country's.
RobertRyan wrote:
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
gbopp wrote:
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
It's a nice looking truck. Does it have a name or model number?
Do not know about a specific name . It has a 500hp Ecotorq engine. Give you a clue the Transit Connect is built there.
It is a Ford H62X Cargo.
Looks nice, and I miss seeing the old heavy duty cabovers like the Ford W9000. However, they don't make much sense here when a conventional cab achieves much better fuel economy due to being more aerodynamic. Luckily, our roads and infrastructure are big enough for conventional trucks while most of the roads in other country's are not. Hence the reason for cabovers in other country's.
No it is not a Ford Cargo. Convential Trucks are dying here. Size of the roads has noting yo fo ehy
I didn't say it was a Ford Cargo. I said it was a Ford H62X Cargo which is the name of it from the people I know and I asked at Ford. You just said that you didn't know the specific name in the post I quoted, but now you are telling me what it isn't?
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Yes, infrastructure size such as roadways and ferry's has a lot to do with why Europe(where this Ford truck was built for) predominately uses cab overs. North America's larger infrastructure and the need for more aerodynamic trucks is a major reason why we use conventional cabs.
ShinerBrock wrote:
Yes, infrastructure size such as roadways and ferry's has a lot to do with why Europe(where this Ford truck was built for) predominately uses cab overs. North America's larger infrastructure and the need for more aerodynamic trucks is a major reas
Yes, infrastructure size such as roadways and ferry's has a lot to do with why Europe(where this Ford truck was built for) predominately uses cab overs. North America's larger infrastructure and the need for more aerodynamic trucks is a major reas
No it was not built for Europe . In Europe, ability to navigate narrow streets when unloading and fuel economy , better aerodynamics are very important. This Truck is built for Eurasia. It replaces the Ford Cargo and will be released at the Hanover German show. What name they give it is interesting
RobertRyan wrote:
No it was not built for Europe . In Europe, ability to navigate narrow streets when unloading and fuel economy , better aerodynamics are very important. This Truck is built for Eurasia. It replaces the Ford Cargo and will be released at the Hanover German show. What name they give it is interesting
No it was not built for Europe . In Europe, ability to navigate narrow streets when unloading and fuel economy , better aerodynamics are very important. This Truck is built for Eurasia. It replaces the Ford Cargo and will be released at the Hanover German show. What name they give it is interesting
This was made mainly for Europe. Conventional cabs have better aerodynamics than cabover's, but cabover's are better at maneuvering in tighter spaces which is needed foe Europe's smaller roadways and metro areas.
Chinese company JMC will build this truck under licence from Ford for most Asian Markets. And again, its name is the Ford H62X cargo truck.
We wheeled into a produce house in Texas. Not a lot of room in front of the dock. We were in a CLT 9000, double wide, air ride, Ford. We backed in just fine. Then a guy pulled up in a conventional, Stretched out. He worked for 45 min to get that large car in the hole. Wasn't enough room for him to get it straight.
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ShinerBock wrote:
This was made mainly for Europe. Conventional cabs have better aerodynamics than cabover's, but cabover's are better at maneuvering in tighter spaces which is needed foe Europe's smaller roadways and metro areas.
Chinese company JMC will build this truck under licence from Ford for most Asian Markets. And again, its name is the Ford H62X cargo truck.
RobertRyan wrote:
No it was not built for Europe . In Europe, ability to navigate narrow streets when unloading and fuel economy , better aerodynamics are very important. This Truck is built for Eurasia. It replaces the Ford Cargo and will be released at the Hanover German show. What name they give it is interesting
No it was not built for Europe . In Europe, ability to navigate narrow streets when unloading and fuel economy , better aerodynamics are very important. This Truck is built for Eurasia. It replaces the Ford Cargo and will be released at the Hanover German show. What name they give it is interesting
This was made mainly for Europe. Conventional cabs have better aerodynamics than cabover's, but cabover's are better at maneuvering in tighter spaces which is needed foe Europe's smaller roadways and metro areas.
Chinese company JMC will build this truck under licence from Ford for most Asian Markets. And again, its name is the Ford H62X cargo truck.
No they do not. That is why they are getting better Fuel Economy here and Especially in Europe, where fuel is liquid gold. The Barn Door Front on US Conventials makes them as aerodynamic as a Model A Ford. Conventials are now called" American Style" in New Zealand. We have all three in Australia, European, Japanese and US and " American Style" See IVECO above
JMC is building it for the Chinese market. Otosan the Turkish builder and developer for the Eurasian market. It was not built for Europe. China and Eurasia the markets
http://extras.springer.com/2009/978-3-642-44355-8/papers/0041/00410469.pdf
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Abstract The aerodynamic situation for trucks on the European market differs from that in North America on a number of points. Perhaps the most significant difference is that in Europe trucks are of the CoE configuration (Cab over Engine) and in North America trucks are of the conventional type with a hood. Another major difference is that trucks in Europe are speed limited to 90 km/h (56 mph) which of course means that aerodynamics as a whole has less of an impact there. These differences are primarily dictated by different legislations, which in turn have a lot of different side effects. This paper will high-light some of the differences and their impact on aerodynamics, as well as taking a look at possible future ideas such as: extended front or short nose, ride height adjustments, convoy driving, etc.
Abstract The aerodynamic situation for trucks on the European market differs from that in North America on a number of points. Perhaps the most significant difference is that in Europe trucks are of the CoE configuration (Cab over Engine) and in North America trucks are of the conventional type with a hood. Another major difference is that trucks in Europe are speed limited to 90 km/h (56 mph) which of course means that aerodynamics as a whole has less of an impact there. These differences are primarily dictated by different legislations, which in turn have a lot of different side effects. This paper will high-light some of the differences and their impact on aerodynamics, as well as taking a look at possible future ideas such as: extended front or short nose, ride height adjustments, convoy driving, etc.
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Introduction Historically most trucks have been of the conventional type. But with the increasing need to make transportation more effective, maximizing load at the expense of space for the driver, has predominantly in Europe, resulted in trucks with the Cab placed on top of the engine (CoE). All these constraints are regulated by legislations. These legislations are, and have been, very different in European compared to in North America. (There are differences in other parts of the world but those will not be considered here). Of all different legislations it is the ones concerning the length, height, width, weight which has had the biggest impact on the over all shape of the trucks, and hence the aerodynamics. But there are also differences in culture, infrastructure and geography which have contributed in making the detailed design of trucks on the two continents different.
Introduction Historically most trucks have been of the conventional type. But with the increasing need to make transportation more effective, maximizing load at the expense of space for the driver, has predominantly in Europe, resulted in trucks with the Cab placed on top of the engine (CoE). All these constraints are regulated by legislations. These legislations are, and have been, very different in European compared to in North America. (There are differences in other parts of the world but those will not be considered here). Of all different legislations it is the ones concerning the length, height, width, weight which has had the biggest impact on the over all shape of the trucks, and hence the aerodynamics. But there are also differences in culture, infrastructure and geography which have contributed in making the detailed design of trucks on the two continents different.
ShinerBock wrote:
Robert, if you want to read more about why Europe is predominantly cabovers then here is a good read. It is even written by a European from Volvo trucks so you you won't say it is bias.
http://extras.springer.com/2009/978-3-642-44355-8/papers/0041/00410469.pdf
Robert, if you want to read more about why Europe is predominantly cabovers then here is a good read. It is even written by a European from Volvo trucks so you you won't say it is bias.
http://extras.springer.com/2009/978-3-642-44355-8/papers/0041/00410469.pdf
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Abstract The aerodynamic situation for trucks on the European market differs from that in North America on a number of points. Perhaps the most significant difference is that in Europe trucks are of the CoE configuration (Cab over Engine) and in North America trucks are of the conventional type with a hood. Another major difference is that trucks in Europe are speed limited to 90 km/h (56 mph) which of course means that aerodynamics as a whole has less of an impact there. These differences are primarily dictated by different legislations, which in turn have a lot of different side effects. This paper will high-light some of the differences and their impact on aerodynamics, as well as taking a look at possible future ideas such as: extended front or short nose, ride height adjustments, convoy driving, etc.
Abstract The aerodynamic situation for trucks on the European market differs from that in North America on a number of points. Perhaps the most significant difference is that in Europe trucks are of the CoE configuration (Cab over Engine) and in North America trucks are of the conventional type with a hood. Another major difference is that trucks in Europe are speed limited to 90 km/h (56 mph) which of course means that aerodynamics as a whole has less of an impact there. These differences are primarily dictated by different legislations, which in turn have a lot of different side effects. This paper will high-light some of the differences and their impact on aerodynamics, as well as taking a look at possible future ideas such as: extended front or short nose, ride height adjustments, convoy driving, etc.
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Introduction Historically most trucks have been of the conventional type. But with the increasing need to make transportation more effective, maximizing load at the expense of space for the driver, has predominantly in Europe, resulted in trucks with the Cab placed on top of the engine (CoE). All these constraints are regulated by legislations. These legislations are, and have been, very different in European compared to in North America. (There are differences in other parts of the world but those will not be considered here). Of all different legislations it is the ones concerning the length, height, width, weight which has had the biggest impact on the over all shape of the trucks, and hence the aerodynamics. But there are also differences in culture, infrastructure and geography which have contributed in making the detailed design of trucks on the two continents different.
Introduction Historically most trucks have been of the conventional type. But with the increasing need to make transportation more effective, maximizing load at the expense of space for the driver, has predominantly in Europe, resulted in trucks with the Cab placed on top of the engine (CoE). All these constraints are regulated by legislations. These legislations are, and have been, very different in European compared to in North America. (There are differences in other parts of the world but those will not be considered here). Of all different legislations it is the ones concerning the length, height, width, weight which has had the biggest impact on the over all shape of the trucks, and hence the aerodynamics. But there are also differences in culture, infrastructure and geography which have contributed in making the detailed design of trucks on the two continents different.
I know why Europe is Cabovers, but Australia , Russia, Turkey and South Africa are as well. We are not crawling along at 56mph. They do not outside Europe either.
RobertRyan wrote:
No they do not. That is why they are getting better Fuel Economy here and Especially in Europe, where fuel is liquid gold. The Barn Door Front on US Conventials makes them as aerodynamic as a Model A Ford. Conventials are now called" American Style" in New Zealand. We have all three in Australia, European, Japanese and US and " American Style" See IVECO above
JMC is building it for the Chinese market. Otosan the Turkish builder and developer for the Eurasian market
No they do not. That is why they are getting better Fuel Economy here and Especially in Europe, where fuel is liquid gold. The Barn Door Front on US Conventials makes them as aerodynamic as a Model A Ford. Conventials are now called" American Style" in New Zealand. We have all three in Australia, European, Japanese and US and " American Style" See IVECO above
JMC is building it for the Chinese market. Otosan the Turkish builder and developer for the Eurasian market
They are getting better fuel economy in Europe because of the 56 mph speed limit, not because of better aerodynamics. NA trucks are limited to 65-75 in many areas except for California where the speed limit is 55 mph. Read the study in the link I posted written by Volvo where even they state conventional cabs are more aerodynamic than cabover trucks.
ShinerBock wrote:
They are getting better fuel economy in Europe because of the 56 mph speed limit, not because of better aerodynamics. NA trucks are limited to 65-75 in many areas except for California where the speed limit is 55 mph. Read the study in the link I posted written by Volvo where even they state conventional cabs are more aerodynamic due to our higher speed limits.
RobertRyan wrote:
No they do not. That is why they are getting better Fuel Economy here and Especially in Europe, where fuel is liquid gold. The Barn Door Front on US Conventials makes them as aerodynamic as a Model A Ford. Conventials are now called" American Style" in New Zealand. We have all three in Australia, European, Japanese and US and " American Style" See IVECO above
JMC is building it for the Chinese market. Otosan the Turkish builder and developer for the Eurasian market
No they do not. That is why they are getting better Fuel Economy here and Especially in Europe, where fuel is liquid gold. The Barn Door Front on US Conventials makes them as aerodynamic as a Model A Ford. Conventials are now called" American Style" in New Zealand. We have all three in Australia, European, Japanese and US and " American Style" See IVECO above
JMC is building it for the Chinese market. Otosan the Turkish builder and developer for the Eurasian market
They are getting better fuel economy in Europe because of the 56 mph speed limit, not because of better aerodynamics. NA trucks are limited to 65-75 in many areas except for California where the speed limit is 55 mph. Read the study in the link I posted written by Volvo where even they state conventional cabs are more aerodynamic due to our higher speed limits.
Got absolutely nothing to do with the 56mph speed limit. Owner drivers here with EuripeanCabovers are getting better fuel,economy at 70mph than their previous conventional truck.
Fleets here buy all types of trucks. Cabovers are becoming more prominent . in distribution duties they are the only style of truck
RobertRyan wrote:
Got absolutely nothing to do with the 56mph speed limit. Owner drivers here with EuripeanCabovers are getting better fuel,economy at 70mph than their previous conventional truck.
Got absolutely nothing to do with the 56mph speed limit. Owner drivers here with EuripeanCabovers are getting better fuel,economy at 70mph than their previous conventional truck.
Can you post the data of before and after fuel economy with links because my data shows that the most aerodynamic cabover being the Volvo VF at .59 Cd and the best aerodynamic conventional is the Navistar Prostar at a lower drag coefficient of .53 Cd. And that is wth the Volvo at 85 km/h(52 mph) and the Prostar at 65 mph.
So please, post these links of drivers getting better fuel economy at 70 mph in their modern cabover versus a modern conventional cab.
SidecarFlip wrote:
I think it's butt ugly. Having driven Class 8 trucks for 30 years, I prefer a conventional. Don't want to be first on the scene with the radiator cap in an accident.
Hard on the knees.
I think it's butt ugly. Having driven Class 8 trucks for 30 years, I prefer a conventional. Don't want to be first on the scene with the radiator cap in an accident.
Hard on the knees.
They the modern ones have exemplary saftey records as well as having exemplary secondary safety features.
Bulk of the US heavy trucks are owned hy the Europeans anyway
" Butt Ugly" no not many would agree with you outside NA
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ShinerBock wrote:
Can you post the data of before and after fuel economy with links because my data shows that the most aerodynamic cabover being the Volvo VF at .59 Cd and the best aerodynamic conventional is the Navistar Prostar at a lower drag coefficient of .53 Cd. And that is wth the Volvo at 85 km/h(52 mph) and the Prostar at 65 mph.
S
So please, post these links of drivers getting better fuel economy at 70 mph in their modern cabover versus a modern conventional cab.
RobertRyan wrote:
Got absolutely nothing to do with the 56mph speed limit. Owner drivers here with EuripeanCabovers are getting better fuel,economy at 70mph than their previous conventional truck.
Got absolutely nothing to do with the 56mph speed limit. Owner drivers here with EuripeanCabovers are getting better fuel,economy at 70mph than their previous conventional truck.
Can you post the data of before and after fuel economy with links because my data shows that the most aerodynamic cabover being the Volvo VF at .59 Cd and the best aerodynamic conventional is the Navistar Prostar at a lower drag coefficient of .53 Cd. And that is wth the Volvo at 85 km/h(52 mph) and the Prostar at 65 mph.
S
So please, post these links of drivers getting better fuel economy at 70 mph in their modern cabover versus a modern conventional cab.
Well the Navistar Prostar was the CAT truck a total failure here, but not in the US
European Heavy Truck fuel usage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHULWHdvA7Y
While looking for pictures of the Ford I was very surprised to find that Chevy seems to be selling some now:
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/low-cab-forward-cab-over-truck
I just spent a week in Italy and Croatia and don't think that I saw any trucks over there only going 56mph.
I don't see any drawbacks to cab forward designs that you don't have in pusher motorhomes except engine noise yet those are very popular here.
Groover wrote:
I think that what may be less well known is that Ford sold a Low Cab Forward (LCF) truck for a few years but they must not have sold well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHULWHdvA7Y
While looking for pictures of the Ford I was very surprised to find that Chevy seems to be selling some now:
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/low-cab-forward-cab-over-truck
I just spent a week in Italy and Croatia and don't think that I saw any trucks over there only going 56mph.
I don't see any drawbacks to cab forward designs that you don't have in pusher motorhomes except engine noise yet those are very popular here.
I think that what may be less well known is that Ford sold a Low Cab Forward (LCF) truck for a few years but they must not have sold well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHULWHdvA7Y
While looking for pictures of the Ford I was very surprised to find that Chevy seems to be selling some now:
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/low-cab-forward-cab-over-truck
I just spent a week in Italy and Croatia and don't think that I saw any trucks over there only going 56mph.
I don't see any drawbacks to cab forward designs that you don't have in pusher motorhomes except engine noise yet those are very popular here.
That is the speed limit for Trucks in the EU. Although a Volvo Cabover set the world speed limit for a Truck. Interesting comparison US Motorhomes,like the Class A pushersdo not have the engine in the front
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Volvo Trucks is claiming two new world land speed records. It's custom-built "Iron Knight" truck reportedly achieved an average speed of 131.29 km/h (81.58 mph) and a time of 13.71 seconds over 500 m (1,640 ft) and 169 km/h (105 mph) with a time of 21.29 seconds over 1,000 m (3,281 ft), both from a standing start.Aug 24, 2016
Volvo Trucks is claiming two new world land speed records. It's custom-built "Iron Knight" truck reportedly achieved an average speed of 131.29 km/h (81.58 mph) and a time of 13.71 seconds over 500 m (1,640 ft) and 169 km/h (105 mph) with a time of 21.29 seconds over 1,000 m (3,281 ft), both from a standing start.Aug 24, 2016
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Modern European Trucks are the safest on the road, One reason they are getting a lot of traction here.. Well European companies own the bulk of the US companies, only PACCAR has no suitor. Scania and MAN, part of the VW Corporation, are looking to buy Navistar outright, so VW can get a foothold in the NA market.VW itself is looking at cooperating with Ford on Commercial vehicles, including Pickups
Scania and MAN to buy Navistar soon
Groover wrote:
I think that what may be less well known is that Ford sold a Low Cab Forward (LCF) truck for a few years but they must not have sold well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHULWHdvA7Y
While looking for pictures of the Ford I was very surprised to find that Chevy seems to be selling some now:
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/low-cab-forward-cab-over-truck
I just spent a week in Italy and Croatia and don't think that I saw any trucks over there only going 56mph.
I don't see any drawbacks to cab forward designs that you don't have in pusher motorhomes except engine noise yet those are very popular here.
I think that what may be less well known is that Ford sold a Low Cab Forward (LCF) truck for a few years but they must not have sold well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHULWHdvA7Y
While looking for pictures of the Ford I was very surprised to find that Chevy seems to be selling some now:
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/low-cab-forward-cab-over-truck
I just spent a week in Italy and Croatia and don't think that I saw any trucks over there only going 56mph.
I don't see any drawbacks to cab forward designs that you don't have in pusher motorhomes except engine noise yet those are very popular here.
The Ford LCF had a cab designed by Mazda. The engine was a 4.5 Navistar-sourced V6, literally a 6.0 Powerstroke diesel minus two cylinders. The Chevy LCF has been sold in the US for at least 20 years. It's an Isuzu truck down to every last nut and bolt. Both the Chevy and Isuzu versions have a gas option using the GM 6.0 V8 with a 6L80E transmission as well as the 5.2 4 cylinder diesel with Aisin trans.
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Bird Freak wrote:
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Much better examples around but this will do
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Bird Freak wrote:
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Many us the big trucks to tow the big 5ers
Terryallan wrote:
Many us the big trucks to tow the big 5ers
Bird Freak wrote:
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Love all the debate about a truck that has nothing to do with towing rv's.
Many us the big trucks to tow the big 5ers
Here it is the other way around. Tow vehicle is a Cab Chassis variation of a Van. 5th wheeler is as big as the trucks capacity. This is getting away from the original post on this thread
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RobertRyan wrote:
This is getting away from the original post on this thread
This is getting away from the original post on this thread
Which is exactly what happens on any RV.net thread that is more than two pages long....
RobertRyan wrote:
It also has a 12.7 litre Diesel all Ford engine Looks like it has borrowed from a Volvo Cabover in the design. Can you guess who makes it?
It also has a 12.7 litre Diesel all Ford engine Looks like it has borrowed from a Volvo Cabover in the design. Can you guess who makes it?
Looks like something you'd see on the tight streets of the UK.
2016 Skyline Layton Javelin 285BH
2018 F-250 Lariat Crew 6.2 Gas 4x4 FX4 4.30 Gear
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 6 speed daily driver
Retired 2002 Ford Explorer 4.6 V8 4x4
Sold 2007 Crossroads Sunset Trail ST19CK
Fordlover wrote:
Looks like something you'd see on the tight streets of the UK.
RobertRyan wrote:
It also has a 12.7 litre Diesel all Ford engine Looks like it has borrowed from a Volvo Cabover in the design. Can you guess who makes it?
It also has a 12.7 litre Diesel all Ford engine Looks like it has borrowed from a Volvo Cabover in the design. Can you guess who makes it?
Looks like something you'd see on the tight streets of the UK.
Correct. They have slimmer Cabs for tight European streets, but highly unlikely it will turn up in Europe
Definitely not Europe
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A sight you would see outside Europe,. In Australia frequently
A manufacturer that does not exist in the US.Scania If MAN and Scania takeover Navistar it will be by proxy
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