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Looking like getting a plastic water tank, found what I think will work, a vertical tall one at ~120 gal.. I was also looking at a flat one for a buggy trailer, hopefully in the near future, that the buggy could just drive over.
They might have something here that might help or just search rv water tank or plastic water tank and something should popup that might work keeping in mind, water is heavy.
To fill, just like you fill your camper water tank, hose. to run, like you said, gravity or a small pump like your camper has, surflow..
They have some in a little pelican case, expensive but portable. Also look at Underwater/Pond tanks, pump works when underwater or wet...
https://www.tank-mart.com/plastic-tanks/plastic-water-tanks.html?dir=asc&order=gallons
hope that helps..
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We really don't use all that much water camping so I usually don't take any opting for Sawyer water filter for camp use and drinking water if need be and creeks and lakes for cleaning up.
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You can try to carry extra water, but if you do not conserve you can still empty your tanks within a few days. How much water do you think you could safely carry on your roof? Maybe 20 gallons or so.
Some trailers are set up for boondocking. Even the small Outdoors RV trailers have 60 gallon water tanks.
It amazes me that anyone thinks they need a shower every day while camping.
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How much water do you think you could safely carry on your roof?
How much water do you think you could safely carry on your roof?
It would depend on your camper..We all have seen some with half the town standing on a TC roof and the cargo boxes/canoe's/firewood etc etc.
Another option when water is limited is bringing outside water from creeks inside to heat up shower and clean up.I use a large canning pot to heat up creek water to use as a shower.
There is also the 6 gallon water containers for extra water that can easily fit behind your truck seat/just inside the TC door or on a hitch haul.I couldn't count the number of times I have filled an RV from a 6 gallon water container out in the boonies.
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Best suggestions are to use less, take an inflatable bladder that you can fill there using your truck bed (camper unloaded) or if you need more the get some tanks for beside the truck camper in the truck bed. Just remember that the more you carry the more weight you are carrying and adjust your other items to keep your rig within the weight limits.
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youngm357 wrote:
I carry a 7 (?) gallon blue water tote from Walmart that I have a hose bib screwed in to with a short hose. Either use it at the sink or set it up by the bed and run the hose down through the window into the water fill.
I carry a 7 (?) gallon blue water tote from Walmart that I have a hose bib screwed in to with a short hose. Either use it at the sink or set it up by the bed and run the hose down through the window into the water fill.
A few gallons is not going to do much. The OP managed to drain the water tank with 3 showers.
Back seat of the truck is a good spot thou.
If you're determined to carry extra water I would use 5 gallon jugs behind the truck front seat, assuming you have a crew cab. Or, look at 20 gallon spray rigs for ATV use. They have a small 12volt pump and you should be able to engineer the wiring off your 4 pin truck connection. Or hook a hose to the tank drain. That's the biggest tank I would put on top of my camper.
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than I little 1/10HP 120v water pump I use to transfer water from the tank to RV.
I use the rear rack on my jeep (I flat tow jeep) to shuttle fresh water as well as gray/black water with my blue tank.
remember, water weighs 8 pounds per gallon so that one 35 gallon tank holds more than 1/2 the weight capacity of your average hitch rack.
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I'd love to keep it above the cab if such an apparatus would package and secure there. I could simply gravity fill the main tank that way, just a matter of deciding how to get the water up there.
I'd love to keep it above the cab if such an apparatus would package and secure there. I could simply gravity fill the main tank that way, just a matter of deciding how to get the water up there.
Above the cab would be on the roof, unless I missed something, which would be some kind of water carrier that would work up there like the bladder I linked that is dual baffled for stability designed for the truck cab roof.
Not ideal for sure but an option.
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But that brings several issues that you need to evaluate.
We had that discussion in other thread, where a member had plastic square tank on roof of his TC and garden hose attached to it for using around campfire and such.
Would I want to use the setup on close to me desert, the water would be about 160F in the afternoon.
Than I don't think I would be comfortable having more than 300lb of water on the roof, still assuming the weight is spread.
I am trying to make a set having extended stay at Powell Lake in mind.
So far the idea is that I drive TC with boat behind there, detach the camper, launch the boat and then use truck, or boat trailer to bring 60 gallons of water in the bladder. Electric pump is easy and I can either use transfer pump to fill up TC tank, or hook up pump from the bladder to TC directly.
I already bought high-volume 12V transfer pump at HF for less than $40 and probably will skip the idea of getting RV pump for direct connection as those are expensive and prone to more headaches.
Than staying on the beach - I use solar shower bladders for outside use, what lot of time is more convenient and saves you trips with gray water tote.
Come down to the beach, everyone has water on the roof and decks on the back.
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ppine wrote:
The best solution for showers is to use a solar shower. You can easily fill it from a spigot, a lake or a creek. Put in the sun and take outdoor showers in the afternoon without impacting your water tank at all.
Hauling water on the roof is a terrible idea.
The best solution for showers is to use a solar shower. You can easily fill it from a spigot, a lake or a creek. Put in the sun and take outdoor showers in the afternoon without impacting your water tank at all.
Hauling water on the roof is a terrible idea.
What's the difference in hauling water to your holding tank other than heating the water?
Rocknita wrote:
Putting an extra 375 lbs on my roof would really change the ride and I would also be concerned with what might happen in an emergency braking situation. Bedlam, outside shower with that nice bathroom and large freshwater tank you have?
Putting an extra 375 lbs on my roof would really change the ride and I would also be concerned with what might happen in an emergency braking situation. Bedlam, outside shower with that nice bathroom and large freshwater tank you have?
Set this up next to your external shower that is already is plumbed to hot and cold:
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size tank between camper tub front and truck headboard.
Easily carry 100 plus gallons in that space. COG might even improve
when full load of H2O onboard..
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woodhog wrote:
Position your camper back further in the truck box, install required
size tank between camper tub front and truck headboard.
Easily carry 100 plus gallons in that space. COG might even improve
when full load of H2O onboard..
Position your camper back further in the truck box, install required
size tank between camper tub front and truck headboard.
Easily carry 100 plus gallons in that space. COG might even improve
when full load of H2O onboard..
I had 2 ft space behind my cabin on 2006 F350 that was originally C&C.
When the truck, who come with longer wheel base and beefed suspension for commercial use was holding it fine, the 12' camper is not really design to have 6 ft of floor support. Since I was custom-fitting a bed on the frame, I made bumper flush with bed floor, what gave additional support.
Than the space under camper overhang is not that easy to use.
Sure if you plumb tank there and only have to pull a hose, that would be fine, but I carried firewood and gas cans there, what was never comfortable to access.
Then I had to find a tank that would fit in the basket, so I searched for both items at the same time.
I had a fill cap on the top of the tank in the back right side just above the drain valve which was in the bottom right side corner.
I threaded on a SS valve with SS quick connect plus SS fittings for the pump to attach to.
I could quickly hook it up the 12 volt pump and add water to my camper storage tank, or use the same pump to fill the tanks from creeks.
These two links are NOT what I had, but gives you an idea.
Hitch cargo basket
Plastic water tank something like this.
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Kayteg1 wrote:
I had 2 ft space behind my cabin on 2006 F350 that was originally C&C.
When the truck, who come with longer wheel base and beefed suspension for commercial use was holding it fine, the 12' camper is not really design to have 6 ft of floor support. Since I was custom-fitting a bed on the frame, I made bumper flush with bed floor, what gave additional support.
Than the space under camper overhang is not that easy to use.
Sure if you plumb tank there and only have to pull a hose, that would be fine, but I carried firewood and gas cans there, what was never comfortable to access.
2ft is probably excessive . An 8"d x 24"h x 60"w would hold 50 gals .
woodhog wrote:
Position your camper back further in the truck box, install required
size tank between camper tub front and truck headboard.
Easily carry 100 plus gallons in that space. COG might even improve
when full load of H2O onboard..
Position your camper back further in the truck box, install required
size tank between camper tub front and truck headboard.
Easily carry 100 plus gallons in that space. COG might even improve
when full load of H2O onboard..
I had 2 ft space behind my cabin on 2006 F350 that was originally C&C.
When the truck, who come with longer wheel base and beefed suspension for commercial use was holding it fine, the 12' camper is not really design to have 6 ft of floor support. Since I was custom-fitting a bed on the frame, I made bumper flush with bed floor, what gave additional support.
Than the space under camper overhang is not that easy to use.
Sure if you plumb tank there and only have to pull a hose, that would be fine, but I carried firewood and gas cans there, what was never comfortable to access.
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Someone asked why one would shower every day while camping. First, an old question -- is RVing really camping?? My trailer is tiny, but it is luxurious compared to tent camping -- fridge, stove, bathroom, decent bed, a place to sit, etc.
But second, I get pretty dirty every day while we are hiking. It is a big treat to come back at the end of the day, take a shower, change out of our mostly synthetic hiking gear, change into comfortable cotton tee shirts and shorts, and kick back with cold drinks and snacks before dinnertime, enjoying the total silence of an isolated campsite.
But I guess that not everyone enjoys that same feeling -- and that's why they make ice cream in several flavors!
Someone else mentioned gray water as a limiting factor -- we use buckets to transfer gray water into our toilet and thus into the black water tank. There is a lot of unused capacity in the black tank! This technique enables us to go a week or more without dumping the tanks, while adding fresh water to the fresh tank as needed.
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jimh425 wrote:
What's the difference in hauling water to your holding tank other than heating the water?
ppine wrote:
The best solution for showers is to use a solar shower. You can easily fill it from a spigot, a lake or a creek. Put in the sun and take outdoor showers in the afternoon without impacting your water tank at all.
Hauling water on the roof is a terrible idea.
The best solution for showers is to use a solar shower. You can easily fill it from a spigot, a lake or a creek. Put in the sun and take outdoor showers in the afternoon without impacting your water tank at all.
Hauling water on the roof is a terrible idea.
What's the difference in hauling water to your holding tank other than heating the water?
The solar shower means you can use water where ever you find it. YOu do not have to haul it, put it in your tank or heat it. The solar showers teach people to conserve water to save water as an added benefit.
When I camped with sons, I had them filling up solar heaters and then they could use "all the water they want".
Also solar heater hanging on the tree next to campfire is much more convenient than going inside RV to wash your hands.
Occasionally we filled up solar heater with lake water. You need some kind of bottle for that.
Hemi Joel wrote:
YOu can buy 1 gallon jugs of spring water with sturdy screw on lids at walmart for about a dollar each. $20-$30 gets you a lot of water storage. And you can stash them wherever you want, and they don't all have to be in the same place. Just dump them in the campers water fill hole as needed. Save the jugs, they can be reused.
YOu can buy 1 gallon jugs of spring water with sturdy screw on lids at walmart for about a dollar each. $20-$30 gets you a lot of water storage. And you can stash them wherever you want, and they don't all have to be in the same place. Just dump them in the campers water fill hole as needed. Save the jugs, they can be reused.
If you are around Walmarts and populated areas I don't see why you would need to buy gallon jugs of water. My water concerns arise only when I am in the middle of nowhere.
Kayteg1 wrote:
Lot of campgrounds with no hook ups do have water faucets placed in several spots.
When I camped with sons, I had them filling up solar heaters and then they could use "all the water they want".
Also solar heater hanging on the tree next to campfire is much more convenient than going inside RV to wash your hands.
Occasionally we filled up solar heater with lake water. You need some kind of bottle for that.
Lot of campgrounds with no hook ups do have water faucets placed in several spots.
When I camped with sons, I had them filling up solar heaters and then they could use "all the water they want".
Also solar heater hanging on the tree next to campfire is much more convenient than going inside RV to wash your hands.
Occasionally we filled up solar heater with lake water. You need some kind of bottle for that.
This past Summer and Fall, I traveled for 3 1/2 months and only used the hose a couple of times. Once was in Mesa Verde the last week the park was opened. The dump and fill hoses had been shut down but the bathrooms were still in operation. I could not fill a jug but I could use my hose and water thief to will the camper. The rest of the trip, I used a 5 gallon jug to keep the camper water topped off.
Also if there is lake water clean enough for a shower and no other source of water, I would jump in or heat a bit of water for a sponge bath.
But being at the lakes in CA, we spend whole days swimming/jet-skiing/water-skiing and other water plays.
Still at night we sit in dust around the campfire. Meaning we had to wash before going to bed (at least hands and feet) and that is where solar showers were very handy.
Nights in California at above 4000' elevations can be very cold, so diving in the lake at 10 PM is out of question.
Sponge bath? HATE IT.
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JimK-NY wrote:
If you are around Walmarts and populated areas I don't see why you would need to buy gallon jugs of water. My water concerns arise only when I am in the middle of nowhere.
Hemi Joel wrote:
YOu can buy 1 gallon jugs of spring water with sturdy screw on lids at walmart for about a dollar each. $20-$30 gets you a lot of water storage. And you can stash them wherever you want, and they don't all have to be in the same place. Just dump them in the campers water fill hole as needed. Save the jugs, they can be reused.
YOu can buy 1 gallon jugs of spring water with sturdy screw on lids at walmart for about a dollar each. $20-$30 gets you a lot of water storage. And you can stash them wherever you want, and they don't all have to be in the same place. Just dump them in the campers water fill hole as needed. Save the jugs, they can be reused.
If you are around Walmarts and populated areas I don't see why you would need to buy gallon jugs of water. My water concerns arise only when I am in the middle of nowhere.
Think of it kind of like your food. You stock up when in town, use it when you are out in the sticks. You can refill the jugs at lots of places.
This trick came to me when my truck broke down in the winter and I was stranded in a repair shop parking lot for 3 Days. My transmission failed on the way from Minnesota to Florida, and I had it towed to a garage. The camper had been winterized for the journey, so there was no water in it, and the shop was closed for the weekend. So I walked to a grocery store nearby and bought 20 jugs of water and poured them into the tank. It worked.
Hemi Joel wrote:
......The camper had been winterized for the journey, so there was no water in it, and the shop was closed for the weekend. So I walked to a grocery store nearby and bought 20 jugs of water and poured them into the tank. It worked.
......The camper had been winterized for the journey, so there was no water in it, and the shop was closed for the weekend. So I walked to a grocery store nearby and bought 20 jugs of water and poured them into the tank. It worked.
I guess you winterize differently than I do. If my camper was winterized, I first need to add a substantial amount of water to flush out the antifreeze. Then I need to put the plug back in the water heater. Then I add a quarter cup of bleach for 15 gallons of water. After a soak I again need to flush out all the lines, drain the tank, add more water and flush again.
If I had a winterized camper I would be drinking the jugs of water instead of dumping them into the tank.
ppine wrote:
The solar shower means you can use water where ever you find it. YOu do not have to haul it, put it in your tank or heat it. The solar showers teach people to conserve water to save water as an added benefit.
The solar shower means you can use water where ever you find it. YOu do not have to haul it, put it in your tank or heat it. The solar showers teach people to conserve water to save water as an added benefit.
My point is that any container can refill the holding tank, too.
Footwell Water tank
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brholt wrote:
Front runner has some options for extra water tanks you might like:
Footwell Water tank
Back of seat water tank
Bigger back of seat water tank
Front runner has some options for extra water tanks you might like:
Footwell Water tank
Back of seat water tank
Bigger back of seat water tank
Those are just cool..Thanks for the heads up!
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All that covers my domestic needs... I still bring 10 gallons or so for cooking and drinking.
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Peppermint is all we use as a soap when boon docking..It makes a great skeeter repellent and for doing dishes in the creek also..Eucalyptus works also but Peppermint works best for nats and skeeters, on us anyway.
Dr Bronners soaps have many uses and are eco friendly and a little bit goes a long way!
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I like that it comes with a pump too.
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JimK-NY wrote:
Maybe a little more practice with the Navy shower. Wet down with a trickle of water while soaping up. Rinse with a low flow. I also time the water heater. It varies a bit with temperature, but generally I need to heat water for 20 minutes and then it will be at the correct temperature so I do not need to waste more water adjusting the temperature. It should not take a third of a tank for two showers. One gallon per shower! You can also learn to economize with dishwashing. I use a dishpan with some warm soapy water and then a quick rinse. Dishwashing takes less than a gallon a day. I have a cassette toilet so it does not use water from the main tank.
Maybe a little more practice with the Navy shower. Wet down with a trickle of water while soaping up. Rinse with a low flow. I also time the water heater. It varies a bit with temperature, but generally I need to heat water for 20 minutes and then it will be at the correct temperature so I do not need to waste more water adjusting the temperature. It should not take a third of a tank for two showers. One gallon per shower! You can also learn to economize with dishwashing. I use a dishpan with some warm soapy water and then a quick rinse. Dishwashing takes less than a gallon a day. I have a cassette toilet so it does not use water from the main tank.
Yeah, more practice for sure. Plus everyone else needs to learn as well, but sometimes I can get pretty **** dirty wrenching on a race car and sweating in the suit 4+ times a day so the 1 gallon method may not work every time. I really wish the water level indicator had more fidelity.
d3500ram wrote:
On a 2 week hunting trip in the bush I fill the 30 gallon tank in the camper plus 6 in the water heater and I take two of these:
All that covers my domestic needs... I still bring 10 gallons or so for cooking and drinking.
On a 2 week hunting trip in the bush I fill the 30 gallon tank in the camper plus 6 in the water heater and I take two of these:
All that covers my domestic needs... I still bring 10 gallons or so for cooking and drinking.
Those would be great and are easy to stash, but how are you transferring to the fresh tank? I'm trying to avoid pouring. I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to rig up a pump though.
mellow wrote:
I used to carry the 35 gallon on the front rack but moved it to my roof and did away with the 12v transfer pump.
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I used to carry the 35 gallon on the front rack but moved it to my roof and did away with the 12v transfer pump.
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Mine has a roof rack too, but it's already so ass heavy I don't dare put anything back there. That didn't throw your balance off? Hell, right now the camper looks to be riding nose up in the truck. It makes me wonder why.
Supercharged111 wrote:
It was your blog that gave me the idea of a front carried tank. I think I'd prefer something that sits lower, something like this but maybe longer so it could sit lower.
https://www.amazon.com/Concession-Gallon-Fresh-Water-Artis/dp/B01B8F4DYY
I like that it comes with a pump too.
It was your blog that gave me the idea of a front carried tank. I think I'd prefer something that sits lower, something like this but maybe longer so it could sit lower.
https://www.amazon.com/Concession-Gallon-Fresh-Water-Artis/dp/B01B8F4DYY
I like that it comes with a pump too.
The pump would need a quick disconnect (I ended up using hose bibs for ease) as its not an outdoor rated pump unit, as that kit is meant as a Class A fresh tank replacement.
I went with the food barrel, as alot of those rectangular tanks need framing to support them before they can be filled, as the sides are not strong enough to take the strain without some kind of structural support.
Supercharged111 wrote:
Those would be great and are easy to stash, but how are you transferring to the fresh tank? I'm trying to avoid pouring. I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to rig up a pump though.
Those would be great and are easy to stash, but how are you transferring to the fresh tank? I'm trying to avoid pouring. I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to rig up a pump though.
I don't transfer to my fresh tank, but I guess you could, just use the hose to fill the tank.
I currently use gravity, no pump needed now that it is on the roof, I get good enough water pressure to wash stuff off which is my primary use for the 35 gallon tank (sand gets everywhere).
One other thing I did was install 4x4's under the tank and rack to help distribute the weight.
https://www.harborfreight.com/15-gallon-spot-sprayer-12-volt-61263.html
That would effectively double the water capacity of my camper (18 gallons) and increase the capacity of your 1131's (35 gallons) by 50%. Self-supporting, strap it down anywhere, on the roof, back seat, front seat, cargo carrier...
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Supercharged111 wrote:
Those would be great and are easy to stash, but how are you transferring to the fresh tank? I'm trying to avoid pouring. I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to rig up a pump though.
Those would be great and are easy to stash, but how are you transferring to the fresh tank? I'm trying to avoid pouring. I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to rig up a pump though.
I just use a live-well pump from walmart, the hose its attached to that connects it to the tank via a hose bib curves downwards, so gravity fills the pump, then I just plug it into the cigarette lighter outlet in the cab over the truck, the live well pump pulls very little power and while its not the fastest pump on the block, it transfers 30 gallons into the onboard tank without too much hassle.
1. Fresh water from our well in the 18 gallon tank. We are lucky to have great well water. Except during an emergency none is used for drinking or cooking, only washing, showering, and flushing. We take showers every other day, depending on dirt, temperature, and hanky-pank which can take as little as a gallon of water. Using that little water approaches an art form or presto ballet in conservation.
2. Fresh drinking and cooking water from our well in various plastic containers, the amount expanding and contracting with the temperature while camping/traveling; total amount of time in the boonies. The favorites are one gallon refrigerator water jugs blue in color below. They are very heavy duty and have not leaked or cracked even after going through a freezing cycle. They live in a lower cabinet near the door where we can store 6- one gallon jugs. I had to reinforce the latch on that lower door to beat the force of 48 pounds of water jugs knocking on the back of that door. The jugs, with a couple 1-1/2 ltr. spacers fit snuggly down there and have no chance to get knocked around. Next faves are 1 liter Nalgene jugs with great screw on lids. We use 1 liter of water to make coffee in the AM. Next are about 30 to 48, 16 oz. plastic water bottles for drinking. They live behind those lower bed access doors in the camper, with some in the cab. During warm and dry weather, we can go through 48 of those in 7 days off grid. Lately, we've added a half dozen 1/2 L. aluminum dual wall jugs to the mix. Other options are fizzy drinks and beer as fluid replacement.
I have had poor results using commercial one gallon plastic water or milk style jugs. They have all leaked or burst over time (over the routes we travel) and caused the floor to get some rot, over time.
Jeanie and I spent some time finding heavy duty one gallon or so water jugs and came up with these:
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For extended trips and with the jeep trailer in tow for a large traveling group (like over the Mojave Road) the water jugs keep getting larger up to the above 26 gallon pickle jar jug, a leftover earthquake preparedness water container used when we lived in L.A., clearly a earthquake hazard zone. A convenient way to refresh your fresh water tank would be with a fluid pump on the end of your drill driver and a 6 foot, 3/8ths inch, plastic hose.
We've never run out of water as we've learned to judge how much we will use.
The main thing is we have learned to live with minimum water use, but that's a whole separate but related issue. The real problem is how to extend the time of filling of your black water tank without increasing that tank's capacity.
I still like carrying water at as low an altitude as possible. I like the front hitch idea as it would act like a collapsable barrier if you hit another vehicle. Six, 5 gallon fuel cans on the front hitch carrier, not so much.
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