| Topic: 2018 Arctic Fox 865LB or Northern Lite 9-6QSE |
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Posted By: motodog
on 01/12/18 12:28pm
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First post, and I hate to rehash old debates but, I can't find much info on the newer campers (2016-2018). I'm going to buy this spring and have narrowed it down to these two. Ive read lots of old posts about leaks and or structural problems with older campers, but can't find info on the new ones. I would hope that a lot of these problems have been addressed. The camper will go on a 2018 F350 SRW diesel 4x4 LB. Plan on lots of gravel/dirt roads, but no '4 wheeling'. Thanks for any input, opinions, and ideas.
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Posted By: old guy
on 01/12/18 12:42pm
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when I worked in sales I would have many people like you wanting us to make their decision on what to buy. I refused to do that. I always figured if that rv didn't reach out and grab you then it's the wrong one for you. you have to be the one that is happy with the unit, not me. so you decide on which one you want to put your hard earned money into. it's your bed, not mine
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Posted By: motodog
on 01/12/18 12:56pm
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Thanks for the thoughts old guy, but that exactly the point. i don't have experience in truck campers like yourself, and I don't want my new camper to 'reach out and grab my money, and time' if I can avoid any issues one might have more than the other. Thanks any ways.
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Posted By: Bedlam
on 01/12/18 01:07pm
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I was happy with my Arctic Fox and only went to another brand because Arctic Fox did not make a multi slide side door model I wanted. I have always liked Northern Lite campers but wanted more room with slides, so I eliminated them from my choices early. I feel the NL has a better fit and finish than the AF, but the capacities are smaller if you like to boondock. What sold us on the AF was the amounts the camper could hold and the overall build quality over other brands.
Although not as popular out west, I suggest you take a look at the Northstar campers since you are looking at models without slides. They get good reviews from their owners. If you are under 6' tall, also check out the Bigfoot campers - There is recent thread about them in this section.
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Posted By: jimh406
on 01/12/18 02:31pm
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Given those choices, I'd go with a Northern Lite. I'm not a fan of the height of the Arctic Fox slides above the floor or their interior color choices.
I'd also look at this floorplan in the Northern Lite. https://www.northern-lite.com/truck_camper_lite_96.php This model is no longer made, but I much prefer it to the normal dinette. I suppose it depends on how many people will be using it.
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Posted By: Bedlam
on 01/12/18 02:45pm
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The AF865 is their only non-slide model unless you go to the Northwood Wolf Creek line.
http://northwoodmfg.com/af-camper-865/
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Posted By: thedavidzoo
on 01/12/18 03:29pm
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Please ignore if you have made up your mind... but have you considered the Northstar brand at all?
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Posted By: Old Days
on 01/12/18 03:53pm
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I would go with the Northern lite,a lot less maintenance.
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Posted By: Rustofer
on 01/12/18 05:28pm
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I don't know how fussy you are about staying within the GVW rating of your truck, but the AF865 could take you over by 500 - 1000 lbs, maybe more. We have a 2017 F350 6.2 (gas), which is likely 500 - 700 pounds lighter than your diesel, and we carry a 2017 NL 9.6 Sportsman. We are often right up against our 11,500 GVW. With two of us in the truck, no camper, it weighs approx. 8100 pounds. That includes a sheet of plywood, bed mat, tie-downs, full tank of gas. It's astonishing how quickly the weights add up.
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Posted By: motodog
on 01/12/18 06:31pm
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Thanks for the replies. I was inquiring more about the integrity of the two newer model campers regarding leaks, structural problems, etc. heard a lot about older models but nothing about the newer ones (post 2016).
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Posted By: Rustofer
on 01/12/18 07:48pm
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In that case, we can heartily recommend NL. We've had it only 11 months, but had it on and off the truck about a dozen times, without any hint of a structural or water-leak issue. Having said that, I'd be surprised to hear of issues in any new-ish camper. Best of luck with your quest!
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Posted By: Crazy Creek
on 01/13/18 06:14am
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I have a 2013 AF 865. Other than a few minor things it has been a good unit.
We love the layout...I have no use for a slide.
The biggest problem (we solved it) is that the fresh water pick up is at the front of a long tank. If you are parked on the slightest hill you run out of "available" water quickly.
Oh...and this is a big deal....the roof material is ****. If you back under a tree it doesn't take much for a low hanging (small) branch to poke holes in the roof material.
Mike
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Posted By: work2much
on 01/13/18 08:40am
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I have owned both a bigfoot which appears at a distance to be the same clamshells that NL uses. I really liked the bigfoot camper quality. I have heard many good things about NL here and elsewhere.It was just too small for our taste with 2 dogs.
Later we purchased an Arctic Fox TC and was pleased with it at first. The owner of the company Ron Nash went out of his way to take care of some early issues we had in particular with the slide. Ron is no longer at the helm and our most recent dealings with AF (still with the slide) led me to sell it and replace it with a different brand that seems more customer service oriented.
Personally, I will not be revisiting any Northwoods products down the road.
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Posted By: TxGearhead
on 01/13/18 09:06am
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I really like the fiberglass clamshell construction of my Bigfoot and Northern Lite. I don't want a slide. I definitely don't want a rubber roof.
Between your 2 choices, most definitely NL.
Do the math on weights.
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Posted By: motodog
on 01/13/18 08:20pm
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Thanks guys, really appreciate the informative post!
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