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Posted By: cartmancartman on 09/28/17 11:57pm

Please excuse the question as I am trying to make a final decision on a camper and no dealers near by to see in person. For those Host owners, looking at the picture link below is the toilet installed in an akward positton? Not only does it sit on a shelf, it is set further back.

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I am assuming feet dangle which really isnt healthy and for the gentleman do you have to balance yourself on the little ledge when standing up? How large is the toilet,is it like the smaller ones that are in the Lance Campers? Has anyone actually upgraded the toilet to a porcelain elongated toilet? Or is there something liek the squatty potty for this setup? Squatty potty

A seasoned Overlander emphasized to me the power to being able to go to the bathroom comfortably is the key to long term success on the road. Thanks

Posted By: work2much on 09/29/17 12:10am

The toilet sits in the drivers side slide along with the black tank. The raised tank is due to the black tank underneath.

The black tank and grey tank also can't be dumped without moving the hose. One thing I wasn't crazy about.

The distance to the floor is fine for me but I am over 6' tall.

If you would like any specific pictures or measurements let me know and I can take them tomorrow.

What are the other contenders for your decision on a TC?

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Posted By: cartmancartman on 09/29/17 12:55am

Thanks, Eagle Cap 1165

Posted By: Bedlam on 09/29/17 06:37am

Standing on the main floor when using the toilet, I have to slightly squat my head under the slide out due to my height. Sitting, you rest your feet on the lower shelf if you are tall and upper shelf if you have a shorter inseam.

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Posted By: GeoBoy on 09/29/17 07:24am

Also for those who pee standing up, does the towel right next to the toilet get any spray on it?

Posted By: Bedlam on 09/29/17 08:02am

That would depend on your accuracy and urgency. The bowl height is taller than some urinals.

Posted By: work2much on 09/29/17 10:18am

cartmancartman wrote:

Thanks, Eagle Cap 1165

That was the other contender for us.

I liked their rear slide location and size better.
Also liked the wardrobe in the bathroom area.
Easier dumping of tanks

Things we liked more about the Host.
Larger shower.
Better slide mechanisms.
Higher degree of customization right at factory talking to Host
Lighter weight
Dual bed entry instead of crawling over partner.

Let us know what you choose!

Posted By: Bedlam on 09/29/17 11:47am

For us, it also came down to the 1165 or Mammoth, so we went through same plus and minus of each model and brand.

The EC is half a foot wider and also has deeper slides than the Host. The EC uses a higher gloss thicker laminate exterior which adds to some of its weight.

The Host has better access to the basement storage with the slide tray and batteries mounted in the rear wing. You can get a wider rear slide on the Host by choosing the Everest model, but the rest of layout may not be what you want.

Posted By: Devocamper on 09/29/17 01:08pm

We were down to the same choices the EC 1165 or the host mammoth, we chose the host for the slide out system, storage , and the ease of getting in and out of the bed without disturbing your partner. We have had no problems with the toilet setup and no over spray. Small complaints so far after about 35 night's out in the host would be that the propane tanks are a pain to change out , a little easier with the rear slide closed, a slide tray for the tanks would have been a great option, thinking about going to 20 lbs tanks when not dry camping. The slide type windows need to be closed in rainy weather but am working on some vents that were recommended here on the forum as well as hatch vent cover like max air. So far very happy with the host.
Mike

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Posted By: rockhillmanor on 09/29/17 01:45pm

The bathroom IS one of the many reasons we buy RV's.

Been there did that.

After my purchase of my first TT where only after I was on the road did I found out you could NOT close the door to the bathroom because your knees hit it if you were over 5' tall. [emoticon]

I will NEVER ever buy an RV without actually sitting on the toilet of each and everyone till I find the RV that fits/works for me using the bathroom facilities.

Just saying I would suggest you see it, try it, up front and personal before you put good money down to buy it.

When the salesman is proudly bragging about the dinette or slide out....I'm pushing him aside to get to the bathroom to see if it will actually work for me. [emoticon]

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

Posted By: 1handyhubby on 09/29/17 05:06pm

My wife has no problem with the toilet. For me, I have to duck my head and lean in to go. A little awkward but not that bad. As for sitting, I picked up the squatty potty with folding legs at Bed, Bath and Beyond. Much more comfortable than sitting with my feet on the little ledge and it slides in next to the toilet when folded up so as not to take up space. As stated moving, the hose from black tank to grey is an extra step but not much of a problem. All the benefits of Host far outweigh a few inconveniences.

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Posted By: S Davis on 09/29/17 05:09pm

The wife and I just looked at a Ranier and the toilet seemed awkward to us, the wife had to put her heals on the little step and it was kind of in the middle for me. Not quite long enough to put my feet on floor and the step put me in an awkward position. Just a heads up there is a 2018 Ranier on the lot in Monroe, WA at speedway RV.-

Posted By: cartmancartman on 09/29/17 06:44pm

Thanks for the feedback, can someone measure the length of the mounting scews on the side of the base of the toilet to the rear wall? Also, while they are at it, how high is the base of the toilet from the ground.

Most rvs come with cheaper toilets but they can be easily switched out for an elongated porcelain toiler if there is enough room for the mounting bolts to the rear. I think it needs a minimum of 11 inches or so.

I didnt realize squatty potty made a model with folding legs, it might be a bit too short though. I went to their website and saw they make a bidet now,looks simple to install and about $30, might consider getting one those too.

There are pros and cons to the Host Mamoth and the Eagle Cap 1165. I loved the storage in the EC but then I realized I can simply use the shower to keep all my items/clothes in the shower and remove it the few times I do take a shower. I do not have to get the option of storage in the bedroom, which was a PIA to get to, and it gives it a more open space to sleep.

* This post was edited 09/29/17 06:50pm by cartmancartman *

Posted By: work2much on 09/29/17 07:07pm

Posted By: cartmancartman on 09/29/17 07:31pm

Awesome, thanks!

Posted By: Spearfisherman71 on 09/29/17 08:01pm

I too found it a little awkward at first but got used to it. We originally liked the eagle cap floor plan and thought that was what we wanted until we went looked at one. We drive 8hrs to look at it and there was so many workmanship issues we sad no way and went home. 6 months later the same dealer got a Mammoth and Everest on the lot so we went looked at both. Neither had the options we wanted but ended up ordering a mammoth and very satisfied.

Posted By: Kayteg1 on 09/29/17 08:12pm

rockhillmanor wrote:

You wouldn't be talking about 2 inch difference here and there? [emoticon]

Unfortunately with campers limited floor space, it all comes to 2 inches more or less.
FIY Camping World is selling toilet raisers. They are like 2" and when I order one for my previous motorhome I was skeptic what 2" can do, but it turned out A LOT.
We ended up with 2 TC at present and are on the fence wchich one to keep?
Side entrance, or more storage and more comfort inside and bathroom?
I bought a house in last few months and making it fitting my family needs is priority, but will I have time next year, I will consider rebuilding one of the campers to my taste.
So far no manufacturer build something I would be comfortable more than 50%
Carpets in pee area??? What da heck are those guys smoking?

Posted By: yblaw on 10/02/17 04:43pm

We are on our second Host Mammoth camper. We use the E-Z Foldz 9" Folding Step Stool that costs about $8. It folds up and stores between the toilet and the wall; couldn't be easier. Works great. When not in use, it's out of the way and travels well. Also, some folks are not fond of having separate black and gray water drains. We felt the same when we bought our first Mammoth, and tried several different drain systems. Since newer Mammoths are factory-equipped with black water flush on the driver's side slide-out, there is no need to worry about the order in which you drain your black/gray tanks; simply drain the black waste tank, close the valve, run water through the flush inlet (with the drain slide-valve closed), and then drain the black water tank until clear. And, even though the gray water drain is under the generator compartment and set back, one of those folding steps makes for easy access; just sit on the step outside of the generator compartment and it's easy to access the gray water slide-valve.

Posted By: Wikel on 10/02/17 06:47pm

What's the clearance to the bathroom door when the slide is closed?

Posted By: Spearfisherman71 on 10/03/17 05:07am

Wikel wrote:

What's the clearance to the bathroom door when the slide is closed?

Not sure I understand the question but you can't get to the bathroom with the slide in.

Posted By: Spearfisherman71 on 10/03/17 05:15am

Couple dumping tips I've learned. I put the slide out when I dump so many can get to the grey without the black dripping on me. When I dump the black and have access to water to flush the black, I add a clear extension to tell when it's clean. The grey pipe was stopped short of the generator exhaust which makes it hard to reach. I added two 45 degree fittings and @ a 12" extension to bring it close to the edge of camper. Much easier to connect.

Posted By: Wikel on 10/03/17 12:59pm

Spearfisherman71 wrote:

Wikel wrote:

What's the clearance to the bathroom door when the slide is closed?

Not sure I understand the question but you can't get to the bathroom with the slide in.

Question was someone looking to change the toliet. I thought the bowl depth was pretty close the the sliding door when the slide was closed (i.e. if it sticks out too much then it will hit the door when slide is closed).

Posted By: work2much on 10/03/17 01:09pm

Wikel wrote:

What's the clearance to the bathroom door when the slide is closed?

Is this the dimension you were looking for?

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Posted By: cartmancartman on 10/03/17 01:15pm

Im thinking this toilet can easily fit
this

Posted By: work2much on 10/03/17 01:31pm

cartmancartman wrote:

Im thinking this toilet can easily fit
this

I installed one of these in our Arctic Fox before we sold it. Nice toilet. Definitely an improvement over the Thetford stock unit.

Have you seen the Host in person? The toilet is a pretty nice porcelain unit. I am 6-3" and 250 pounds. It is plenty big enough for me to use comfortably.

Posted By: Wikel on 10/03/17 09:11pm

work2much wrote:

Wikel wrote:

What's the clearance to the bathroom door when the slide is closed?

Is this the dimension you were looking for?

[image]

Correct. Just didn't know for sure how close the toliet was the the bathroom for with the slide closed. Thanks

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