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Topic: Conversion Vans not allowed at some RV Parks?

Posted By: azrving on 09/24/17 01:03pm

Sea Dog wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

Adam H wrote:

If the RVIA sticker is indeed the major hang up, have one made and stick it on. I don't put too much faith in the RVIA anyway because they certify all the RV's and we all know how crappy they are built.

Adam
If we don't want your rig in our park, we will turn it away for one reason or another. RVIA certification does mean that it was built by a company that supposedly knew how to wire the electrical circuits, the plumbing etc. The reasoning behind only allowing RVIA is a safety issue, a concern for our facilities and quite honestly, an easy way to turn away schoolies, hippie mobiles and rent-a-wreck vans driven by Buffalo Bob wannabes. But if you insist in trying to circumvent those motivations by a sticker, I will easily come up with another way, up to and including, "sorry, your rig does not meet our standards, and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason".


I will bet that your park is a real fun place to be.
You remind me of the Soup Nazi on the old Seinfeld show!


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Posted By: free radical on 09/24/17 08:55pm

Sea Dog wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

Adam H wrote:

If the RVIA sticker is indeed the major hang up, have one made and stick it on. I don't put too much faith in the RVIA anyway because they certify all the RV's and we all know how crappy they are built.

Adam
If we don't want your rig in our park, we will turn it away for one reason or another. RVIA certification does mean that it was built by a company that supposedly knew how to wire the electrical circuits, the plumbing etc. The reasoning behind only allowing RVIA is a safety issue, a concern for our facilities and quite honestly, an easy way to turn away schoolies, hippie mobiles and rent-a-wreck vans driven by Buffalo Bob wannabes. But if you insist in trying to circumvent those motivations by a sticker, I will easily come up with another way, up to and including, "sorry, your rig does not meet our standards, and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason".


I will bet that your park is a real fun place to be.
You remind me of the Soup Nazi on the old Seinfeld show!

Haha
And he probably wonders why some people would rather overnight at WM or rest stops..


Posted By: pira114 on 09/25/17 02:50am

My experience was that it was all about looks. Of all the places I was refused, it was the ones who considered themselves upscale. This was a normal travel trailer, but old. 1987. They pulled the 10 year old rule on me because it looked old. Only because of color scheme. The normal 80s tan with brown and red stripe.

To be fair, they all warned me when I made reservations. One manager came out and looked at my rig, saw it was very well maintained, and allowed me in. He explained that their 10 year old rule was for preventing run down looking rigs, and the possibility of an old rig causing fire. Ok.

Either way, if the van looks good, it'll probably be allowed.

Here's a practical option. If you don't need hookups, you can rent a tent site and just not set up a tent. Doubt anyone would care or notice.


Posted By: JaxDad on 09/25/17 05:45am

I suspect that most people posting here are unaware that in every jurisdictions I've ever looked at, the RVIA or CSA Z-240 endorsement is required by law in order to stay in a campground in an RV.

In this litigious society we live in I doubt ANY park owner will knowingly 'look the other way' on a legally required safety issue. Sure you might get past a few parks management but the registration form always asks for the make of the RV so 'none' might stick out.


Posted By: Deb and Ed M on 09/25/17 06:26am

pira114 wrote:



Here's a practical option. If you don't need hookups, you can rent a tent site and just not set up a tent. Doubt anyone would care or notice.


Well, when you first pull in, the tent campers will give you the Stink Eye....LOL! Two years ago, we toured the Pacific NW in an old pop-up truck camper that had been stripped of most of its systems - all it needed was electric, and we were capable of living without that, if need be. As we called ahead for a campsite, I would ask if they would let us into a tent site; or many parks have a half-way site with electric only. In many cases, we'd be let into the tent sites provided we didn't run a generator (we also didn't have A/C) - the idea being that tent campers expect a quiet environment. We had some pretty nice sites! And when the tenters realized we'd be quiet neighbors, they warmed up :-)

Our new van will be a silent creature, too - so we'll try to utilize these rustic sites when possible, and leave the full H/Us for the true RVs.


Posted By: Sea Dog on 09/25/17 06:28am

JaxDad wrote:

I suspect that most people posting here are unaware that in every jurisdictions I've ever looked at, the RVIA or CSA Z-240 endorsement is required by law in order to stay in a campground in an RV.

In this litigious society we live in I doubt ANY park owner will knowingly 'look the other way' on a legally required safety issue. Sure you might get past a few parks management but the registration form always asks for the make of the RV so 'none' might stick out.


I do not ever recall being asked the make of our RV.

Size and type, yes, make, never!


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Posted By: Deb and Ed M on 09/25/17 06:39am

In defense of RV park owners: not everyone who drives an RV or van or truck combo, is a wonderful person. Our motorhome insurance had a provision that we were not insured if our Class C was used for "business purposes" including making xxx-rated movies. Or a meth lab (who didn't love the old Winnebago featured in Breaking Bad?). And cargo vans also make great vehicles for people transporting illegal substances. Or humans. A year or so ago, a young lady disappeared from a West Michigan business, and when they finally caught the man they feel is responsible - he had turned a van into a torture chamber :-( Women who find a cargo van parked next to their car in a large parking lot, are encouraged to go back into the mall and request an escort to their car.

So I get it. Our van will always be "pretty"; and inspections would be welcomed. If we get turned down (I'm beginning to think this won't happen) there's always another park down the street.


Posted By: mowermech on 09/25/17 06:48am

JaxDad wrote:

I suspect that most people posting here are unaware that in every jurisdictions I've ever looked at, the RVIA or CSA Z-240 endorsement is required by law in order to stay in a campground in an RV.

In this litigious society we live in I doubt ANY park owner will knowingly 'look the other way' on a legally required safety issue. Sure you might get past a few parks management but the registration form always asks for the make of the RV so 'none' might stick out.


I get very suspicious when someone says "required by law", then doesn't give the law they are referencing. I would think they would know the appropriate statute for their own state, at least.
Can anybody give the statute? How about it, RV park owners, suirely if there is such a law you would be aware of it, chapter and verse!


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Posted By: JaxDad on 09/25/17 06:50am

Sea Dog wrote:

JaxDad wrote:

I suspect that most people posting here are unaware that in every jurisdictions I've ever looked at, the RVIA or CSA Z-240 endorsement is required by law in order to stay in a campground in an RV.

In this litigious society we live in I doubt ANY park owner will knowingly 'look the other way' on a legally required safety issue. Sure you might get past a few parks management but the registration form always asks for the make of the RV so 'none' might stick out.


I do not ever recall being asked the make of our RV.

Size and type, yes, make, never!


Google something like "RV campground registration form", I just did, far from scientific but the first 10 on the list, including several companies that print 'stock' business forms for campgrounds to purchase. They all asked the make of vehicle.


Posted By: bartlettj on 09/25/17 02:20pm

In some states, RV's require special license plates and motor vehicle tax payments. That may be how they check instead of RVIA. You should check the state you register your van in for the laws and the difference between conversion vans and other kinds of RV. You'll probably never get caught, but may want to verify, especially for insurance purposes.


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