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Topic: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Posted By: Reisender on 01/06/21 09:37am

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Reisender wrote:

...You are probably more in touch with GM numbers than most. How many EV’s are they producing per day right now. My guess is about 75 per day....ish.???

Cheer.


Probably more in touch than you think with all numbers.

GM Production is not public data.


Well, like I said, being in that industry I would think you are more in the know than many. So I would be interested in your speculation on daily averaged worldwide production numbers. Start with roughly 2000 per day from Tesla and go from there. The problem I ran into when I spent 10 minutes googling was that they weren’t clear on what was included. So for example, one number was given and then a comment in the post indicated that those numbers didn’t include busses. Then another article countered saying those numbers didn’t include all the electric dock trucks or the 3 wheeled putt putts for markets like India or wherever. Forklifts etc etc. Technically all are vehicles produced without gas tanks. Hard to follow.

I think Volkswagen is a few hundred per day from a few estimates I have seen . BYD numbers have to be up there too.

I would be interested in your speculation for conversation sake.

Cheers.


Posted By: time2roll on 01/06/21 11:25am

Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5,000 Electric Car From GM


2001 F150 SuperCrew
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Posted By: free radical on 01/06/21 07:51pm


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The MINI EV “looks way better than my car,” said Zhang, who lives in a suburb in Beijing’s outskirts. “I always feel a bit nervous in this low-speed car because it’s kind of shaky/quote

Tesla nemesis? [emoticon] [emoticon]


Posted By: Yosemite Sam1 on 01/06/21 07:56pm

free radical wrote:


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The MINI EV “looks way better than my car,” said Zhang, who lives in a suburb in Beijing’s outskirts. “I always feel a bit nervous in this low-speed car because it’s kind of shaky/quote

Tesla nemesis? [emoticon] [emoticon]


Electric tuk tuk![emoticon]


Posted By: time2roll on 01/06/21 09:29pm

The point was GM through an EV joint venture is out selling Tesla in the largest automobile market.. China.
OK maybe these GM things are just enclosed golf carts.


Posted By: Groover on 01/07/21 08:10am

I plan to buy a Tesla soon. On top of a lot of other good reasons the charging system is the clincher. I have heard a lot of comments from others that the experience TFLtrucks had at the charging stations is typical. Plus, Tesla only charged 1/2 as much as Electrify America per kwh. They forgot to mention that.

TFL Mach-E vs Model Y

Yeah, I expect to charge mostly at home but do expect to make some road trips with it and a good charging system will be important.

Also, TFL forgot to pre-warm the batteries to prepare for charging. That would have improved the Tesla charging experience even more.


Posted By: Reisender on 01/07/21 08:32am

Groover wrote:

I plan to buy a Tesla soon. On top of a lot of other good reasons the charging system is the clincher. I have heard a lot of comments from others that the experience TFLtrucks had at the charging stations is typical. Plus, Tesla only charged 1/2 as much as Electrify America per kwh. They forgot to mention that.

TFL Mach-E vs Model Y

Yeah, I expect to charge mostly at home but do expect to make some road trips with it and a good charging system will be important.

Also, TFL forgot to pre-warm the batteries to prepare for charging. That would have improved the Tesla charging experience even more.


The pre-heating makes a huge difference especially this time of year. (It’s cold here). But it is as simple as telling the car to navigate to the Supercharger you are heading for. The car will turn on the battery preheat at the appropriate time so when you arrive at the Supercharger you will get max charge. We have arrived at a V3 with 32 percent and seen the charge rate pin at 250 KW. Without preheat it would be 80 KW ish. It’s the difference between a 15 minute stop and a 30 minute stop.

Pro tip. If you are going to stop for a leisurely lunch and need the extra time then don’t pre heat. You’ll have time for a more leisurely lunch without worries of idle fees. (Fees charged if hooked up but charging complete). But be courteous. Don’t do this at busy Superchargers.


Posted By: Yosemite Sam1 on 01/07/21 10:04am

Reisender wrote:

Groover wrote:

I plan to buy a Tesla soon. On top of a lot of other good reasons the charging system is the clincher. I have heard a lot of comments from others that the experience TFLtrucks had at the charging stations is typical. Plus, Tesla only charged 1/2 as much as Electrify America per kwh. They forgot to mention that.

TFL Mach-E vs Model Y

Yeah, I expect to charge mostly at home but do expect to make some road trips with it and a good charging system will be important.

Also, TFL forgot to pre-warm the batteries to prepare for charging. That would have improved the Tesla charging experience even more.


The pre-heating makes a huge difference especially this time of year. (It’s cold here). But it is as simple as telling the car to navigate to the Supercharger you are heading for. The car will turn on the battery preheat at the appropriate time so when you arrive at the Supercharger you will get max charge. We have arrived at a V3 with 32 percent and seen the charge rate pin at 250 KW. Without preheat it would be 80 KW ish. It’s the difference between a 15 minute stop and a 30 minute stop.

Pro tip. If you are going to stop for a leisurely lunch and need the extra time then don’t pre heat. You’ll have time for a more leisurely lunch without worries of idle fees. (Fees charged if hooked up but charging complete). But be courteous. Don’t do this at busy Superchargers.


I don't see leisurely charging as an issue for me. Even stops every 200 to 300 miles or so while RVing.

But I know re-charging turn around is an issue to some. My daughter would rather bring their Range Rover instead of their Tesla X on long trips exactly for these reasons -- and the fact that they are under time pressure to get as much mileage for their weekend out of town trips.

EV companies should solve this challenge. Tesla Semis must be in this conundrum.


Posted By: Reisender on 01/07/21 10:42am

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Groover wrote:

I plan to buy a Tesla soon. On top of a lot of other good reasons the charging system is the clincher. I have heard a lot of comments from others that the experience TFLtrucks had at the charging stations is typical. Plus, Tesla only charged 1/2 as much as Electrify America per kwh. They forgot to mention that.

TFL Mach-E vs Model Y

Yeah, I expect to charge mostly at home but do expect to make some road trips with it and a good charging system will be important.

Also, TFL forgot to pre-warm the batteries to prepare for charging. That would have improved the Tesla charging experience even more.


The pre-heating makes a huge difference especially this time of year. (It’s cold here). But it is as simple as telling the car to navigate to the Supercharger you are heading for. The car will turn on the battery preheat at the appropriate time so when you arrive at the Supercharger you will get max charge. We have arrived at a V3 with 32 percent and seen the charge rate pin at 250 KW. Without preheat it would be 80 KW ish. It’s the difference between a 15 minute stop and a 30 minute stop.

Pro tip. If you are going to stop for a leisurely lunch and need the extra time then don’t pre heat. You’ll have time for a more leisurely lunch without worries of idle fees. (Fees charged if hooked up but charging complete). But be courteous. Don’t do this at busy Superchargers.


I don't see leisurely charging as an issue for me. Even stops every 200 to 300 miles or so while RVing.

But I know re-charging turn around is an issue to some. My daughter would rather bring their Range Rover instead of their Tesla X on long trips exactly for these reasons -- and the fact that they are under time pressure to get as much mileage for their weekend out of town trips.

EV companies should solve this challenge. Tesla Semis must be in this conundrum.


I don't know what it will be like with a Cybertruck because of the bigger battery, but with a model 3 we don't stop to charge. We just charge while we are stopped.


Posted By: Yosemite Sam1 on 01/07/21 10:47am

Reisender wrote:


I don't know what it will be like with a Cybertruck because of the bigger battery, but with a model 3 we don't stop to charge. We just charge while we are stopped.


You are so wise Obiwan.[emoticon]

My plans too.


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