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Posted By: Madfun119 on 08/20/17 06:10pm

I have a F350 Super Duty with the puck system. Seeing great reviews for both. Curt appears considerably less expensive.


Posted By: MFL on 08/20/17 07:13pm

You will not be disappointed, by spending a little more for the 3300!

Jerry






Posted By: azdryheat on 08/20/17 07:24pm

Why? Why is the 3300 better?


2013 Chevy 3500HD CC dually
2014 Voltage 3600 toy hauler
2019 RZR 1000XP TRE



Posted By: B.O. Plenty on 08/20/17 07:41pm

Curt uses foreign made parts assembled in the U.S. Decent unit a little hard to operate at times. B&W is all made in America with all American raw materials. Easiest hitch I have ever hitched or unhitched. Very smooth, positive operation. Shop online and there isn't much price difference. You will get what you pay for.

B.O.


Former Ram/Cummins owner
2015 Silverado 3500 D/A DRW
Yup I'm a fanboy!
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS


Posted By: dfletch on 08/20/17 07:49pm

I put a Curt Q20 in my TV and have had no problems.


David & Teresa
2017 Cedar Creek Silverback 37 MBH
2017 Silverado 3500HD Duramax 4X4 Crewcab longbed dully



Posted By: guidry on 08/20/17 08:14pm

Another vote for BW!


Posted By: Showme 5vr on 08/20/17 08:48pm

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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Posted By: ChuckV1 on 08/20/17 09:35pm

I have a Curt 16k an love it [emoticon]


Posted By: tinner12002 on 08/21/17 04:17am

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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Tequila Sunrise 2012 Ultra Classic Limited
2018 Raptor 428SP


Posted By: Toolguy5 on 08/21/17 04:42am

I have no experience with Curt. I do have a B&W companion slider. I love it.

If your undecided I would physically look at both and go with the one you feel is best.

Good luck and Happy Trails

Dan


Dan & Patty
Miss Pickles the Pomeranian Princess Rainbow Bridge 8/8/2023
2020 GMC 3500 Sierra Denali 6.6 Duramax / Allison tranny
2021 Jayco Eagle 319MLOK
BWRVK 3710 companion
Maddy the Pampered Pom @ Rainbow Bridge 12-3-2013


Posted By: Arcamper on 08/21/17 07:40am

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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2016 Montana 3100RL Legacy(LT's,Joy Rider 2's,disc brakes)
2014 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie Cummins/Aisin 14,000 GVWR
2014 Ford Expedition Limited, HD tow pkg
2016 Honda Civic EX-T
1999 Stingray 240LS
1994 Chevy 1500 5.7 PU
2018 John Deere 1025R
B&W RVK3600 Hitch



Posted By: Hammerboy on 08/21/17 08:45am

Arcamper wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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2019 Chevy crew LTZ 2500 HD Duramax
2017 Wildcat 29rlx fifth wheel


Posted By: Travlingman on 08/21/17 10:09am

Had a B&W in my last truck, went with a Curt Q25 in my new F-350. Have no issues at all. Like that it has a higher capacity than the B&W with the Ford puck system, it is SAE certified, and the fully articulating head. Had no issues with my B&W.


2017 F-350 King Ranch DRW
2014 Landmark Savannah(sold)
2022 DRV Mobile Suite 40KSSB4


Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 08/21/17 10:11am

B.O. Plenty wrote:

Curt uses foreign made parts assembled in the U.S. Decent unit a little hard to operate at times. B&W is all made in America with all American raw materials. Easiest hitch I have ever hitched or unhitched. Very smooth, positive operation. Shop online and there isn't much price difference. You will get what you pay for.

B.O.


CURT is "MADE" in CHINA.

Just compare them side by side!


2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 08/21/17 10:20am

Oh I forgot to mention the CURT head with it's pivot point several inches below the kingpin connection can cause CHUCKING. Documented here by several people.

B&W, simple solid latching with a machined 1" thick jaw. CURT flimsy lock color coding with 1/2" thick jaws.

B&W 4 - 1/2" grade 8 bolts each side holding head supports, Curt two questionable grade bolts each side holding head. Look at the attachment areas to the bed. B&W is simply a Superior product with no negatives, can't say the same about Curt.

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Posted By: Greene728 on 08/21/17 11:27am

Nothing necessarily wrong with a Curt as they are "sufficient".
When compared to a B&W they are inferior. Just not as well made period.


2011 Crossroads Cruiser 29BHS ( Traded )
2017 Grand Design 303RLS ( Sold )
Currently camperless ( Just taking a break )
2016 Chevy Silverado 2500 4x4 6.0 and 4:10’s
Me and the wife and our two daughters. Life's good!


Posted By: Helmsey on 08/21/17 11:31am

I love my B&W, I can't wait to get the Pullrite out of my (new to me) truck and get the Companion back in.
One thing that sold me with the B&W is the customer service. I had a question about a part and when I called them an actual person answered the phone. I was transferred one time to a person that was able to answer my question and then explain why it was doing what I was concerned with.


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2015 Chevy 3500HD LTZ Dually
2013 Sandpiper 365SAQ



Posted By: laknox on 08/21/17 11:42am

One more vote for B&W. Both the products and the company. Needed new u-bolts for my old-style Companion, called B&W and they had a set overnighted to me. After about 10 minutes, I realized that I had =already= called them about 2 months before and tried to cancel my order. They told me to just keep the 2nd set because I'll need them...eventually. [emoticon] Can't beat CS like that!

Lyle


2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Denali Crew Cab 4x4 Duramax
B&W OEM Companion & Gooseneck Kit
2017 KZ Durango 1500 D277RLT
1936 John Deere Model A
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Posted By: Brisk on 08/21/17 11:57am

B&W hands down


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-B&W Turnover Ball/Anderson Ultimate Aluminum

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Posted By: bama2 on 08/21/17 03:13pm

b & w all the way


Posted By: Tango, AE7UI on 08/21/17 03:41pm

I have lost count of the plus reviews for the B&W.
I have the Companion with out the pucks.
Add mine to the plus column.
Have used it for the past 9 years and won't even consider any other brand.


2007 Tango 2660RKS Fifth Wheel, 2006 Chevy D/A 3500 with service body,


Posted By: reppoc12 on 08/21/17 04:00pm

This is my experience. I have a Ram with the puck system. Had a Curt Q24 and had problems a number of times both hithching and unhitching. I would always get it but got tired of playing with it to get it just right. Got a B&W 3600 and it hitches and unhitches first time every time.


Posted By: RCMAN46 on 08/21/17 04:08pm

I do not believe I have seen a Curt do this.

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Posted By: laknox on 08/21/17 04:30pm

RCMAN46 wrote:

I do not believe I have seen a Curt do this.

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In a rollover, all bets are off.

Lyle


Posted By: JIMNLIN on 08/22/17 05:49am

Curt vs B&W hitch ?? Same as Ford vs Chevy.
Both are top hitches for light duty work such as pulling a rv.

Hitch brand/truck brand comments are alway amusing from those who have never owned the product or I had one back in the day.

Keep in mind popular doesn't always = best bang for the bucks ie; ST tires being popular.
I would choose the one that best suits your needs.


"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides


Posted By: Nlambert182 on 08/22/17 10:06am

I have the B&W Companion slider (3405) in my Ram 2500 and love it. Very easy and quick to hook up and there is never any doubt that there has been a positive engagement of the jaws. Unhooking is even easier.

My friend has a Curt Q24 in his Ram 3500 SRW and while it has always worked (eventually), he has had a few more issues with his. Typically his issues are with getting the jaws to lock and unlock. It can take some finagling at times to get it to work properly.

For me.... I'll hang onto the B&W. It's been a breeze.


Posted By: alexleblanc on 08/22/17 12:35pm

another B&W fan here - looked at the Curt product and in my mind the only reason most would buy it would be to save money, doesn't look like a quality product IMO.


TV - 2017 F350 CCSB SRW Platinum 6.7 + 5er - 2021 Grand Design Reflection 311 BHS + B&W Companion
On Order - 2022 F350 CCSB SRW Platinum 6.7



Posted By: Big1 on 08/23/17 03:04am

I have the B&W slider and it seem to be solid but then again this is my first 5th Wheel hitch and the one thing that I like that I have a ball turnover that I can use as a gooseneck.


2022 Ram Laramie 3500 6.7L CTD CCLB
2019 Jayco Eagle 321RSTS


Posted By: JeffPhillips on 08/23/17 07:33am

I have a 2017 F350 4x4 and pull a Jayco Pinnacle with a MORryde pin box. Curt says the problem is they are both set in rubber and they are fighting each other when hooking up. I am also getting some chucking too. To those that see I have just used it 4 times
I have owned two other fifth wheels but had a Reese hitch and never had problems like this.

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Posted By: waltbennett on 08/23/17 08:10am

B.O. Plenty wrote:

Curt uses foreign made parts assembled in the U.S. Decent unit a little hard to operate at times. B&W is all made in America with all American raw materials. Easiest hitch I have ever hitched or unhitched. Very smooth, positive operation. Shop online and there isn't much price difference. You will get what you pay for.

B.O.


"Foreign parts"?? Don't know where you got that from! I've had a Q20 for five years now and towed our Montana with it for over 45k miles - we're now in Oregon and heading back east on our fourth trip of over two months each. Never had any issues with the hitch and it's only refused to operate once - my fault for trying to connect when off camber and at a severe angle.

I really believe hitch choice is up to the individual. Get which ever one you feel you can operate in your truck the easiest. They all work well if you keep them greased and clean.


'06 F350 TD, Softopper, airbags, AeroShield, coolant filter
'10 3665RE Hickory edition, wetbolts, Firestone LTs, Trimetric Battery Monitor, 4x100w panels & Morningstar TS-45, still tweeking.



Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 08/23/17 09:12am

""Foreign parts"?? Don't know where you got that from!"

Call CURT if you want or just look at your hitch. It is "Made in China" plain and simple.

Curt makes many other products in USA (I own a couple) but their 5er hitches are ALL Made in China.


Posted By: MFL on 08/23/17 11:31am

JeffPhillips wrote:

I have a 2017 F350 4x4 and pull a Jayco Pinnacle with a MORryde pin box. Curt says the problem is they are both set in rubber and they are fighting each other when hooking up. I am also getting some chucking too. To those that see I have just used it 4 times
I have owned two other fifth wheels but had a Reese hitch and never had problems like this.


Jeff...you've got the best truck, and a really nice FW! I'd sell that Q24 on e-bay, wherever. The Q24 is a popular hitch, should bring a good price. Now get the 3300, and enjoy the ease of hooking/unhooking! The quality build, ease of operation, and great customer service, is what makes B&W fanboys. Oh, the 3300 is lightweight too.

Jerry

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Posted By: fj12ryder on 08/23/17 03:24pm

I'm very happy with my B&W hitch, and have been for the past 10 years.


Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"


Posted By: NC Hauler on 08/23/17 05:48pm

B&W 3600 on my truck, love it.. hitches and unhitches with no issues and I've never experienced any chucking. Mine fits in the puck system.

Jim

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B&W RVK3600 Hitch
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Posted By: 4x4ord on 08/23/17 07:20pm

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
B&W Companion
2008 Citation Platinum XL 34.5


Posted By: mudmaker on 08/24/17 06:26am

JeffPhillips wrote:

I have a 2017 F350 4x4 and pull a Jayco Pinnacle with a MORryde pin box. Curt says the problem is they are both set in rubber and they are fighting each other when hooking up. I am also getting some chucking too. To those that see I have just used it 4 times
I have owned two other fifth wheels but had a Reese hitch and never had problems like this.


The head of the B&W is set on rubber pads as well. My last camper I had a Morryde hitch too and never experienced any chucking.


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11 Silverado 3500 SRW quad 6.6 Duramax


Posted By: JeffPhillips on 08/24/17 10:22am

Thanks for that reply mudmaker. That does not help Curts explanation for the problems much.


Posted By: Travlingman on 08/24/17 11:27am

JeffPhillips wrote:

I have a 2017 F350 4x4 and pull a Jayco Pinnacle with a MORryde pin box. Curt says the problem is they are both set in rubber and they are fighting each other when hooking up. I am also getting some chucking too. To those that see I have just used it 4 times
I have owned two other fifth wheels but had a Reese hitch and never had problems like this.


I have a 2017 Ford F350 too, along with a MorRyde pinbox on my 5er with a Curt Q25 and have no issues with it. No issues hitching and have a very good ride when pulling rig.


Posted By: nscaler2 on 08/24/17 01:46pm

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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I'm very happy with my B&W hitch, and have been for the past 11 years. I like the fact that they are totally American made. Needed new U bolts (my fault) they sent me new ones no charge. Actually talked to a real human English speaking person on the phone. Customer service A+++.

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w/Mor/ryde pin box
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Goodyer G rated tires
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B&W turnover w/Companion


Posted By: laknox on 08/24/17 02:41pm

nscaler2 wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


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X3
I'm very happy with my B&W hitch, and have been for the past 11 years. I like the fact that they are totally American made. Needed new U bolts (my fault) they sent me new ones no charge. Actually talked to a real human English speaking person on the phone. Customer service A+++.


You're going to need new u-bolts about every 7-8 times you remove your hitch. Those d@mn nylock nuts eventually bind up and you have to just twist them off. (Be sure you have a breaker bar handy!) I've got 2 sets of new bolts on the shelf, but I keep any old ones I feel I could get 1 or 2 more uses out of. Frankly, I should just toss the old nylock nuts and buy new ones and that would give me another 2 sets of u-bolts. :-)

Lyle


Posted By: Ford Man on 08/25/17 12:11pm

B&W


Posted By: RCMAN46 on 08/25/17 03:24pm

laknox wrote:

RCMAN46 wrote:

I do not believe I have seen a Curt do this.

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In a rollover, all bets are off.

Lyle


There was no rollover.

It was a simple case of an evasive maneuver and the head of the B&W disconnected and was snagged on the truck bed which caused the trailer to land on it's side.


Posted By: fj12ryder on 08/25/17 03:57pm

RCMAN46 wrote:



There was no rollover.

It was a simple case of an evasive maneuver and the head of the B&W disconnected and was snagged on the truck bed which caused the trailer to land on it's side.
That seems to be at odds from what I read. Which was the trailer started to roll over taking the truck with it. The hitch released which kept the truck from going on over.

But perhaps you were there and saw the whole thing?

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Posted By: Cummins12V98 on 08/26/17 06:31pm

As President of the "B&W HeavyWeight FanBoy Club" I can attest NOTHING in this world is perfect but the B&W is about as close to PERFECTION as it gets! [emoticon]


Posted By: Bigg Al on 08/26/17 08:53pm

fj12ryder wrote:

That seems to be at odds from what I read. Which was the trailer started to roll over taking the truck with it. The hitch released which kept the truck from going on over.

But perhaps you were there and saw the whole thing?


I think RCMANS explanation makes more sense than yours does, FJ. Why was the trailer rolling over if it was still hitched to the truck which wasn't rolling over? An extreme evasive maneuver makes more sense for why the hitch broke and the trailer ended up on its side.
It's amazing how much product loyalty is used to skew the opinion of others even though there is no reward for that loyalty. Curt or B&W, to each his own.

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Posted By: fj12ryder on 08/26/17 09:23pm

Bigg Al wrote:

I think RCMANS explanation makes more sense than yours does, FJ. Why was the trailer rolling over if it was still hitched to the truck which wasn't rolling over? An extreme evasive maneuver makes more sense for why the hitch broke and the trailer ended up on its side.
It's amazing how much product loyalty is used to skew the opinion of others even though there is no reward for that loyalty. Curt or B&W, to each his own.
Have you actually gone and read the account of what happened? The driver performed two severe swerves to avoid traffic and he lost control of the truck/trailer and it started to roll over, both truck and trailer.

Read the account and maybe you'll have a better understanding of what happened.


Posted By: Madfun119 on 08/31/17 06:34pm

Got it folks. Ordered the B&W right after Harvey. Should be in any day now.


Posted By: Doughboy12 on 08/31/17 08:22pm

laknox wrote:

nscaler2 wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:

Showme 5vr wrote:

No experience with Curt but I do have a B&W, would not trade it!


X2


X3
I'm very happy with my B&W hitch, and have been for the past 11 years. I like the fact that they are totally American made. Needed new U bolts (my fault) they sent me new ones no charge. Actually talked to a real human English speaking person on the phone. Customer service A+++.


You're going to need new u-bolts about every 7-8 times you remove your hitch. Those d@mn nylock nuts eventually bind up and you have to just twist them off. (Be sure you have a breaker bar handy!) I've got 2 sets of new bolts on the shelf, but I keep any old ones I feel I could get 1 or 2 more uses out of. Frankly, I should just toss the old nylock nuts and buy new ones and that would give me another 2 sets of u-bolts. :-)

Lyle


Wait What? You should almost never "need" new u-bolts. Nylocks on the other hand are a one time use item that people reuse with good results all the time.






Posted By: fj12ryder on 08/31/17 08:59pm

Good choice, it's an excellent hitch.


Posted By: spud1957 on 09/01/17 08:07am

Yeah, great choice. I would have done the same.


Posted By: oakmandan on 09/10/17 09:01pm

I have a B&W. American made in Kansas!


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