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Posted By: Surfrat on 06/08/17 06:13pm

While walking home from storing my camper at storage facility, I past a body fender place. Sitting out in it's yard was a sad looking camper. Now since there are not a lot of truck campers on Long Island I probably know it's owner. How it got wrecked I can only guess it hit one of Long Islands low Highway over passes.
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Posted By: Surfrat on 06/08/17 06:17pm

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Posted By: 3 dog nights on 06/08/17 06:20pm

Pity no one threw a tarp over it, while it's sitting there. Damage will just escalate.

Posted By: HMS Beagle on 06/08/17 06:26pm

3 dog nights wrote:

Pity no one threw a tarp over it, while it's sitting there. Damage will just escalate.

I don't think additional damage is going to hurt that one.

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Posted By: work2much on 06/08/17 06:27pm

Have to figure that is a total loss.

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Posted By: travelnutz on 06/08/17 06:40pm

Yes, a total loss and doesn't anyone notice that there is not one vertical wall stud showing or even an end of one at the top of the fractured wall or at the bottom of the cab over area? In other words, the skin had to be the support for the cab over extension. Not a well built TC in my view.

Do your walls in your home not have wall studs either?

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Posted By: RoyF on 06/08/17 07:34pm

Looks like Artic Fox. I thought that they had a reputation for quality.[emoticon]

Posted By: Kayteg1 on 06/08/17 07:46pm

Jacks are good.




Posted By: sgip2000 on 06/08/17 08:52pm

RoyF wrote:

Looks like Artic Fox. I thought that they had a reputation for quality.[emoticon]


Newer models have an aluminum frame. That one is probably 20+ years old.




Posted By: bighatnohorse on 06/08/17 10:21pm

Probably hit a curved overhead bridge - major pressure to roof area forced "wings" downward (see first photo left of pass through window crack) and destroyed the frame at many points.
This one is for parts salvage.

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Posted By: Grit dog on 06/08/17 10:32pm

travelnutz wrote:

Yes, a total loss and doesn't anyone notice that there is not one vertical wall stud showing or even an end of one at the top of the fractured wall or at the bottom of the cab over area? In other words, the skin had to be the support for the cab over extension. Not a well built TC in my view.

Do your walls in your home not have wall studs either?


I don't think it matters how the walls are built if you do that, lol.
My old AF camper handles 100 mph buffeting just fine.......as long as there isn't a bridge in the way!

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Posted By: kohldad on 06/09/17 05:11am

There are several studs visible when you look close. Have to remember in a lot of trailers and TC, a "stud" is a nothing more than a piece of 3/4" x 1" or 1" x 1-1/2" wood. Because of the small size, they sheared off easily when the object was hit.

My 2004 Lance uses 3/4" x 1" and has survived for 13 years with no sign of issues or stress.

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Posted By: DWeikert on 06/09/17 06:51am

travelnutz wrote:

Yes, a total loss and doesn't anyone notice that there is not one vertical wall stud showing or even an end of one at the top of the fractured wall or at the bottom of the cab over area? In other words, the skin had to be the support for the cab over extension. Not a well built TC in my view.

Do your walls in your home not have wall studs either?

I don't think vertical studs do much to support the cabover. It's the boards cantilevered out from the main camper body that do the supporting. The wall studs in your home only support the above floor/roof because the bottom of the wall studs are anchored to the floor, then the floor does the supporting. With a top and bottom board cantilevered out to support the weight the only thing vertical studs do is give you a place to anchor the siding/paneling.
See- How to Build A Cabover Cantilever

* This post was edited 06/09/17 06:58am by DWeikert *

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Posted By: valhalla360 on 06/09/17 07:30am

travelnutz wrote:

Yes, a total loss and doesn't anyone notice that there is not one vertical wall stud showing or even an end of one at the top of the fractured wall or at the bottom of the cab over area? In other words, the skin had to be the support for the cab over extension. Not a well built TC in my view.

Do your walls in your home not have wall studs either?


As others have said, there are studs but more importantly, studs are only one method of construction. If done properly sandwich wall construction can be both lighter and stronger than stud built walls. You don't see a lot of it in residential construction but in commercial buildings you are seeing more of it.

Of course, no one is designing an RV that will handle a bridge hit at speed.

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Posted By: bighatnohorse on 06/09/17 07:31am

Grit dog wrote:


My old AF camper handles 100 mph buffeting just fine.......as long as there isn't a bridge in the way!


You should slow down a little.

Posted By: Fisher Bill on 06/09/17 08:29am

Looks like a long arm of an oak tree branch could have done this also

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Posted By: burningman on 06/09/17 08:39am

bighatnohorse wrote:

Grit dog wrote:


My old AF camper handles 100 mph buffeting just fine.......as long as there isn't a bridge in the way!


You should slow down a little.

All it takes is 60 MPH into a 40 MPH wind gust to get that.

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Posted By: anutami on 06/09/17 08:52am

Thanks for reminding me of two weeks ago when I ran over a sumerged rock at our local lake and totaled our boat.

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Posted By: Grit dog on 06/09/17 09:25am

bighatnohorse wrote:

Grit dog wrote:


My old AF camper handles 100 mph buffeting just fine.......as long as there isn't a bridge in the way!


You should slow down a little.


How slow should I go? I mean 70 mph and a 30mph head wind =........

Posted By: profdant139 on 06/09/17 09:26am

Simple answer to both the ding in the RV and the ding in the boat: duct tape!

Anutami, really sorry to see that damage. I hope no one was hurt in the collision with the rock!

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Posted By: Grit dog on 06/09/17 09:29am

Anutami, oh no!! Hope everyone was ok.
That's about my biggest fear. I can dodge wallys all day but submerged hazards are the real deal.
Bounced off a submerged stump once, got lucky and it was outside the fins/prop/rudder line, but scare the _____out of me, the guy on the wakeboard when I saw the boat jump out of the water!

Posted By: bighatnohorse on 06/09/17 09:31am

Grit dog wrote:



How slow should I go? I mean 70 mph and a 30mph head wind =........

. . .= 5 mpg
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Posted By: anutami on 06/09/17 10:15am

No one was hurt except for my pride as a boat captain.

Posted By: Stefonius on 06/09/17 10:23am

The TC damage on Long Island looks like a case of "I can take the Parkway... I'm not a truck!"

Posted By: Fish mojo on 06/09/17 11:59am

A little Eternabond ought to fix it right up......

Posted By: joeshmoe on 06/09/17 12:04pm

Don't forget pressure test it. lol

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Posted By: HMS Beagle on 06/09/17 03:05pm

The boat looks repairable, even fairly easily repairable. The camper not so much.

Nearly every camper uses the sidewall as a stressed skin to support the cabover. There needs to be some other structure as well (mainly to keep the skin from buckling). Surely cantilevering a 2x4 out 8 feet over the cab won't do to.

Posted By: Grit dog on 06/09/17 03:53pm

bighatnohorse wrote:

Grit dog wrote:



How slow should I go? I mean 70 mph and a 30mph head wind =........

. . .= 5 mpg
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Lol thats about right if I had a hemi!
Even still I bet the diesel ain't doing very good in the mileage department either.

Posted By: RamblinAnne on 06/17/17 06:29pm

Stefonius wrote:

The TC damage on Long Island looks like a case of "I can take the Parkway... I'm not a truck!"


I would put money on that being the case. Those **** Long Island parkways!

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Posted By: Kayteg1 on 06/17/17 06:48pm

Grit dog wrote:

bighatnohorse wrote:

Grit dog wrote:



How slow should I go? I mean 70 mph and a 30mph head wind =........

. . .= 5 mpg
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Lol thats about right if I had a hemi!
Even still I bet the diesel ain't doing very good in the mileage department either.

In last couple of months I made 4 trips between Las Vegas and San Francisco with 16' cargo trailer.
Going empty to SF I averaged 9 mpg, coming with about 9000 lb of cargo I averaged 11.2 mpg.
CC always set at 60 mph.
You can guess witch way winds blow on desert.

Posted By: stufarmer on 06/18/17 08:55am

I'll bet someone from the west coat was visiting Long Island and had to learn about the notorious
Long Island Parkways the hard way.

Posted By: GWolfe on 06/18/17 09:06am

Kinda looks to me like it was laid over on its side. Wouldn't there be more damage to the top along the front if it hit a bridge? I'm not familiar with the Long Island Parkway bridges though.

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