If this has been posted before, I apologize. It's a slow day and I'm bored.
So.....is this possible?
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IIRC, I think a member mentioned that the tag wheels steer which makes sense, but I do not know how it can articulate, especially like the one in the OP's image.
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
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d3500ram wrote:
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
My observations also!? Poor Photoshop
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d3500ram wrote:
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On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image...
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On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image...
That one might be a poor photograph, but in the 1960's this type of camper was much more common. Here's a more modern version. Do a Google search "Vintage Tag Axle Truck Camper"....
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d3500ram wrote:
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
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I think you are on to something. I do a lot of image manipulation with Photoshop. I can't believe I missed the "hack job" with the tree...completely fake.
Thanks to all who posted. I'm always trying to learn and as I said, I'm not a TC guy.
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downtheroad wrote:
Original poster here:
I think you are on to something. I do a lot of image manipulation with Photoshop. I can't believe I missed the "hack job" with the tree...completely fake.
Thanks to all who posted. I'm always trying to learn and as I said, I'm not a TC guy.
d3500ram wrote:
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
On second look, it seems to be a poor photo chop image... tree branches do not line up, neither does the horizontal cut line of the TC itself. Color of the siding is not consistent. The camper behind the old car has a gap that does not line up to make seem as if part of that background camper is missing.
Original poster here:
I think you are on to something. I do a lot of image manipulation with Photoshop. I can't believe I missed the "hack job" with the tree...completely fake.
Thanks to all who posted. I'm always trying to learn and as I said, I'm not a TC guy.
It is a hack photoshop job but the bottom half still looks legit. I'm not sure why someone would change the top in a photo.
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Camper_Jeff_&_Kelli wrote:
I think when you go over some sharp hills with a short period (length between) interesting things and sounds will happen with the rear and tag axles lifting the same load at different intervals. Loading and unloading the two axles out of sync by 8 or so feet.
I think when you go over some sharp hills with a short period (length between) interesting things and sounds will happen with the rear and tag axles lifting the same load at different intervals. Loading and unloading the two axles out of sync by 8 or so feet.
Kind of defeats the point of a truck camper (off road/back country camping or towing a boat). Anything but smooth road and I think it would tear itself or the truck apart.
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valhalla360 wrote:
Kind of defeats the point of a truck camper (off road/back country camping or towing a boat). Anything but smooth road and I think it would tear itself or the truck apart.
Kind of defeats the point of a truck camper (off road/back country camping or towing a boat). Anything but smooth road and I think it would tear itself or the truck apart.
That's probably why they aren't made anymore.
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Bedlam wrote:
Jeep also had a tag axle camper:
Jeep also had a tag axle camper:
That might actually be cooler than the Blazer Chalet! Thx for sharing. Now I want to do that to my Jeep! (Actually I don't but it is still neat)
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RobertRyan wrote:
Featured on Truck Camper magazine . An Australian couple and their lazy axle VW TC.
Featured on Truck Camper magazine . An Australian couple and their lazy axle VW TC.
Completely different from the discussion.
All 3 axles are part of the truck and the camper sits on the truck. The axles are directly connected to the frame.
We are talking about a 2 axle truck and the camper has it's own independent axle but still sits in the truck bed. There doesn't appear to be anything connecting the camper/rear axle to the truck frame.
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Dragging over aligns perfect, also cut the far left strip and moved to far right, it fit, though short. Seemed to remember this shifting happening on older cameras, though not splitting. Still odd
Im sure many have seen this picture of an other Jeep with tag axle camper.
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How a Multi-axle unit is set up. Actually, they have a manual 'dump valve' that has to be activated to dump the air when turning. That or a dump and lift valve where underslung bags lift the axle off the ground (after the upper bags are deflated) to mitigate tire scrub and resistance when turning.
With the 3rd axle bags applying down pressure or no bags at all and a conventional spring or torflex setup on the 3rd axle, turning in a tight radius (not driving down the road and negotiating a curve) would become an exercise in extreme tire wear, even possible rolling the tires off the rims, breaking the beads, from side force.
Interesting concept but it needs a way to relieve down pressure on the axle.
I'll keep reading along. I like looking at pictures of old campers anyway.
These days with the systems we have it seems like if you were to make something like this it would make sense to make them steerable. But the cost and complexity is probably too much for a camper manufacturer.
Transit mixers (cement trucks) use them all the time. Basically it's a steer axle with kingpins and heavy springs attached to the tie rod that allows the axle to articulate when the vehicle makes a turn. You still get tire scrub to overcome the spring resistance but it's less than a solid mount.
Air bags and lift bags are still the best bet though that would entail an on board air supply and storage tank because, unlike air lift suspension bags, the air volume isn't static. It changes with load and road conditions and the dump, lift and reinflate cycles take quite a bit of air. Normally, any air axle will have whats called a levelling valve attached that allows air to enter or escape as conditions change. It gets complex because the systems must operate in harmony with each other.
Most likely more than the average RV builder would want to install.
soren wrote:
Every few years the Jeep/truck camper pic. shows up, and it makes me smile. I owned a '75 CJ5 that, thanks to it's narrow track and short wheelbase,was perfectly happy to go down the road frontwards, backwards and sideways, especially if snow or mud was added to the mix. I always wondered how these things handled with a huge truck camper and tag axle humped on to the back?
Every few years the Jeep/truck camper pic. shows up, and it makes me smile. I owned a '75 CJ5 that, thanks to it's narrow track and short wheelbase,was perfectly happy to go down the road frontwards, backwards and sideways, especially if snow or mud was added to the mix. I always wondered how these things handled with a huge truck camper and tag axle humped on to the back?
I had a 5 that exhibited the same traits, especially on an icy. snowy road. I not so fondly remember one winter afternoon, my wife and I were heading from our house southwest of Cleveland, Ohio to the grocery store for some supplies. I was going maybe 20 mph on a paved road, slightly crowned and slightly ice and snow covered and in a flash, faster than I could react we were going backwards in the same lane we were going forward in.
Never touched the brake, never gave it any gas, nothing, it just decided to swap ens. Lucky for me no one was coming in the opposing lane. The guy behind me crapped his pants however.
Got rid of it soon afetr and I've never had another one. Besides, it was cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
SidecarFlip wrote:
I had a 5 that exhibited the same traits, especially on an icy. snowy road. I not so fondly remember one winter afternoon, my wife and I were heading from our house southwest of Cleveland, Ohio to the grocery store for some supplies. I was going maybe 20 mph on a paved road, slightly crowned and slightly ice and snow covered and in a flash, faster than I could react we were going backwards in the same lane we were going forward in.
Never touched the brake, never gave it any gas, nothing, it just decided to swap ens. Lucky for me no one was coming in the opposing lane. The guy behind me crapped his pants however.
Got rid of it soon afetr and I've never had another one. Besides, it was cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
soren wrote:
Every few years the Jeep/truck camper pic. shows up, and it makes me smile. I owned a '75 CJ5 that, thanks to it's narrow track and short wheelbase,was perfectly happy to go down the road frontwards, backwards and sideways, especially if snow or mud was added to the mix. I always wondered how these things handled with a huge truck camper and tag axle humped on to the back?
Every few years the Jeep/truck camper pic. shows up, and it makes me smile. I owned a '75 CJ5 that, thanks to it's narrow track and short wheelbase,was perfectly happy to go down the road frontwards, backwards and sideways, especially if snow or mud was added to the mix. I always wondered how these things handled with a huge truck camper and tag axle humped on to the back?
I had a 5 that exhibited the same traits, especially on an icy. snowy road. I not so fondly remember one winter afternoon, my wife and I were heading from our house southwest of Cleveland, Ohio to the grocery store for some supplies. I was going maybe 20 mph on a paved road, slightly crowned and slightly ice and snow covered and in a flash, faster than I could react we were going backwards in the same lane we were going forward in.
Never touched the brake, never gave it any gas, nothing, it just decided to swap ens. Lucky for me no one was coming in the opposing lane. The guy behind me crapped his pants however.
Got rid of it soon afetr and I've never had another one. Besides, it was cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
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