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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 03/10/17 06:00pm

I'm NOT buying anything, I promise. The 2015 is doing just fine. But I wouldn't be surprised if I don't make the leap in a year or two on a 2018 or so.

But does anyone have a picture of a new F350 or F450 hooked up to a fifth wheel camper? All the pics I can find are hooked up to a gooseneck.

I just want to see how well a fiver sits in the back. Not sure but the new Super Duty beds look awful deep. My 43' long Vengeance still sits just slightly higher on the nose with my 2015 and I have the hitch as low as I can without getting too close to the truck. If I were to get a new Ford and its even higher in the back or I have to raise the hitch, that would look silly.

Posted By: FishOnOne on 03/11/17 11:22am

Check out this jewel...

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 03/11/17 01:25pm

Well put. A jewel indeed. Looks like an F350. Any others out there? I'd love to see an F450, too.

* This post was edited 03/11/17 02:16pm by lawnspecialties *

Posted By: nremtp143 on 03/11/17 02:21pm

I don't have a pic, but several on the FTE have them. One thing we've realized is that the floor of the trucks are the same height as the previous year models, but the bed sides are 2" higher. So the trailers are not sitting higher in the nose per say, the rigs are just losing 2" of bedrail clearance.

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 03/11/17 04:57pm

nremtp143 wrote:

That was a concern. I have my Reese at the mid point and the camper is getting close but I'm still OK. Getting close but still OK also means it sits just a little nose high. If I have to go up on the hitch because the side of the truck is higher, the camper is even higher in the nose than it is now.

That Raptor FishOnOne has posted looks great. But that's a 350.

I like my mess level.

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 04/27/17 05:33am

Stirring this thread back up. I'd still love to see an F450 hooked up to a typical fifth wheel. They seem to be quite tall in the back and that concerns me.

Posted By: goducks10 on 04/27/17 08:01am

Aren't those front rims in the pic F450 rims? I thought the F350 had the reg rims.

Posted By: Me Again on 04/27/17 12:00pm

Here is what 2017 F450 wheels look like.

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Here is what 2017 F350 wheels look like.

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* This post was edited 04/27/17 12:10pm by Me Again *

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Posted By: FishOnOne on 04/27/17 05:38pm

lawnspecialties,
Per your request....

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 04/27/17 07:59pm

FishOnOne. You're making me hide my wallet from myself.

Just for shiggles, I decided to stop by my friendly Ford dealership today. I pulled out the trusty tape measure and began taking numbers on both the 350 and 450 duallies.

Oddly, the distance from the ground to the top of the bed rail and the distance from the floor of the bed to the top of the bedrail was the same for both trucks. The larger wheels on the 450 appear to make no difference.

From ground to the top of the bedrail was 58.5". From the floor of the bed to the top was 21.5".

My 2015 F350 SRW is about 58" or so from the ground to the top. The bed is 20.5" from floor to the top.

So in theory, they're so close, I'm not going to worry too much when and if I get one. I have my Reese on the middle setting and the camper is ever so slightly higher in the nose with the truck sitting level. It's not enough for most to notice. But of course, I do.

But my clearance from camper to bedrail is about as close as I'd want to get. So if I did get one of these trucks, I'd probably have to raise the Reese to the top.

Posted By: patriotgrunt on 04/27/17 08:06pm

Fish,

Did you make an upgrade or is that picture someone else's beauty?

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Posted By: FishOnOne on 04/27/17 08:07pm

I agree these new Super Duties are really nice and the reports from them are really impressive.

Those F450's are really impressive! [emoticon]

Posted By: FishOnOne on 04/27/17 08:09pm

patriotgrunt wrote:

Fish,

Did you make an upgrade or is that picture someone else's beauty?

No upgrade... It's someone's else's beauty. For my needs a F350 SRW King Ranch with the chrome package would fit me just fine.

Posted By: 1jeep on 04/28/17 09:22am

on the 2016 model F350 drw and F450 the height to the tailgates are the same, oddly the srw f350 is taller than both the 350drw and 450.
Maybe Ford has done this to keep the height manageable for a 5th wheel?

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Posted By: peoples1234 on 04/30/17 08:11pm

Not mine (one can dream), but a 450 with a FW from another forum.

Posted By: FishOnOne on 04/30/17 09:04pm

That's one sweet rig. Very nice....

Posted By: alexleblanc on 05/01/17 05:55am

I love the look of the widetrack front end on these 450's.

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Posted By: taken on 05/01/17 06:16am

You can't go by the tape measure at all. I was very surprised when I hooked up for the first time. I had measured my 2012 so many times my eyes hurt and measured a ton of 17's on the lot. However, when my 17 came in, I had to set my hitch back to where it was on my 12 and my trailer sat dead level. I did loose a couple inches of bed rail clearance but I had 9" on my 12 so it was not a concern. Another guy I chat with on FTE had the exact same experience going from the previous gen to a 17 450.

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Posted By: taken on 05/01/17 06:26am

I had considered a 450 but found no need so went with another SRW 350. Love the truck and looking forward to our first trip towing soon. Trailer is within 1/4" front to back. 7" of bed rail clearance. Truck is approx. 3/4" lower in the rear with the garage empty as shown in the pic. About dead level with the garage loaded...

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/01/17 09:03am

Well done Rodney. I was wondering what you eventually got. Nice choice.

As for those recent pics with the Cyclone, it appears that one is the Magnetic Grey color. I like that a lot but right now on Autotrader, there aren't any within hundreds of miles of me. But I haven't had the dealer search their Ford database yet.

Posted By: taken on 05/01/17 09:08am

Yep, that's bronc71 over on FTE. He was going to go black but changed his order a couple weeks in. It's a nice 450 for sure. Magnetic is def my second (maybe tied for 1st) favorite color and I love it as my accent on the truck and RV...

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/01/17 09:55am

Yes. My last two have been the good old Ingot Silver. But I'm ready for a change. Magnetic or the good old Shadow Black would work for me. Just so hard to keep the black as clean as I'd want it to be.

Posted By: FishOnOne on 05/01/17 08:13pm

taken wrote:

R,
Your rig looks like a jewel.... Very nice right down to the color matching of your truck and camper.

Posted By: taken on 05/01/17 08:18pm

Thanks T. Very happy so far!!!!

Posted By: Travlingman on 05/02/17 10:40am

lawnspecialties wrote:

If you want, PM me and I will give you a code to get on the X-Plan site and you can search dealers in a 100 mile radius from your zip. It will let you break it down to model and trim level. It comes up with the dealer listing and window sticker and the x-plan price. This isn't a pin number to purchase with just gets you on the site.

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/16/17 07:39am

lawnspecialties wrote:

Well. I'm getting to be worse than my wife at the clothing stores. Read my first sentence just a short while ago.

If all goes well, my flight leaves RDU airport at 6:05am tomorrow for Columbus Ohio. Picking up the F450, signing the papers, and heading back to Garner.

I should be ashamed. But once the bug bites, its tough to cure.

Posted By: FishOnOne on 05/16/17 08:28pm

lawnspecialties wrote:

Congrats.... Post a picture of that jewel when you get a chance.

Posted By: Travlingman on 05/16/17 11:14pm

FishOnOne wrote:

lawnspecialties wrote:

Congrats.... Post a picture of that jewel when you get a chance.

Yep, once the fever starts there is only one way to cure it. Sounds like the cure is in Ohio. [emoticon]

Congrats, glad you found what you were looking for. Have a good trip and looking forward to pics.

Posted By: Campinfan on 05/18/17 05:37pm

And I was going to ask, "did you buy a new truck yet?" and then I read the last page. Congrats cant wait to see it.

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/18/17 07:00pm

Yesterday morning, arrived at RDU airport at 4:30am. Flight left at 6:10. Landed in Columbus around 7:40. After breakfast, dealer's driver picked me up around 8:45. As we pulled into the Ford sales office, there was the truck sitting there ready to go. Of course, it took a couple of hours to do all the paperwork and deny all the paint protections and fabric seal, etc. Probably close to 11:30, I pulled out heading back to Raleigh. 490 miles and pulled into the driveway around 7:30.

I was exhausted. A fun but really long day. But I'd do it again if it meant the truck I wanted. Driving like that straight home for almost 500 miles gives you a lot of time to learn new things these trucks feature. Haven't touched the truck since putting it in the barn last night. It needs a bath terribly. LOTS of bugs on I-77 in W. Va. [emoticon]

Pics will be coming soon.

Posted By: taken on 05/18/17 07:08pm

Congrats and enjoy brother. I came darn close to ordering a 450 this time around based on looks, not need. The 17 DRW's are very easy on the eyes. Enjoy the honeymoon period...

Posted By: 1jeep on 05/19/17 05:17am

congrats, nice adventure to get a truck.

Posted By: blofgren on 05/19/17 09:56am

OK, where are the pics? [emoticon]

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Posted By: 4wheelingNUT!! on 05/19/17 01:32pm

I would also like to see pictures of the new F-450 with the toyhauler hooked up. What color 450, and toyhauler?

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/19/17 02:49pm

4wheelingNUT!! wrote:

I would also like to see pictures of the new F-450 with the toyhauler hooked up. What color 450, and toyhauler?

I'm working today (firefighter). So all it gets today is a good bath. Should be able to get some pics tomorrow.

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/20/17 06:45am

Just snapped a few pics before putting it away. I want to hook up the Vengeance and pull it out to make sure everything goes well. Plus I have the wet bolt kit waiting to be put on my Equa-Flex suspension. But once again, storms predicted this afternoon so both truck and camper will stay in the barn for the afternoon.

Posted By: taken on 05/20/17 06:52am

Looks fantastic!!! Congrats bud... Hey, when you get on the wet bolts, be sure to look over your Equaflex thoroughly. While doing spring greasing I found one of mine about to fail me. It could have went really wrong on my next trip... I have a new unit on now but am making the trip to IN this summer to have a full IS and disc conversion done at MorRyde.

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Posted By: FishOnOne on 05/20/17 02:28pm

Wow.... That truck looks like a jewel.

Very Nice....

Posted By: Travlingman on 05/20/17 02:45pm

Great looking truck. Like the look of the wide track front end. What options did you get? How did you end up finding it in Ohio?

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/20/17 04:00pm

Finding 2017 F350 and 450 DRWs is becoming quite difficult in the south. All three Ford dealerships in Raleigh say they just can't get them. Demand is far greater than supply and Ford and the parts suppliers are struggling.

I had my favorite servicing dealer look on his Ford dealership website for me an F450 with about a dozen things I really wanted. Lariat, magnetic grey, black interior, etc. I had made a list just like if I ordered one. This one was the only one within 1000 miles that had everything I wanted on my list. A member here on the forums hooked me up with a Friends and Family X-Plan PIN.

I sold my silver 2015 F350 on Saturday. On Monday, I called Ricart Ford in Ohio. We did the preliminary deal right there on the phone. On Wednesday morning, I was on Delta flight DL3777. [emoticon]

Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/20/17 04:13pm

By the way. If anyone is looking, Ricart is hard to beat. They are a corporate sponsor of the All American Quarter Horse Congress. They sell a bunch of duallies there because most folks there have some really big wallets with really big horse trailers.

This year, a huge number of the trucks they ordered for the show did not arrive until well after the show. That's why they have so many now.

As of right now, they have 30 F450s and 47 F350s that are at least Lariat, Platinum, or King Ranch.

Posted By: 4wheelingNUT!! on 05/20/17 09:48pm

Very Nice!!

Posted By: wmnmy on 05/20/17 09:52pm

Sweet looking truck .... Two thumbs up...

Posted By: 4wheelingNUT!! on 05/21/17 12:59pm

I've noticed Ricart always has a really good selection.

Posted By: Groover on 05/22/17 07:03am

nremtp143 wrote:

I really don't understand why Ford does not off a special bed with lower sides for 5th wheels. It sure seems to me that it would be nice to be able to lower the floor of the front bedroom several inches.

Posted By: bfast54 on 05/27/17 08:55am

taken wrote:

You will love it--- I have indepent suspension and disc brakes on my fifth wheel and it is fantastic !!!!!
Mor ryde has a great setup out there, you can arrive like early and hook your rig up they've got electricity hookups right there at the factory--- and yeah they'll get you all set ---you're going to love it...!!!!!

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Posted By: bfast54 on 05/27/17 09:06am

Groover wrote:

nremtp143 wrote:

All about the MONEY......(Ford,G.M.,Dodge )....... sell MILLIONS of trucks. [emoticon]

To make a "Special bed".....that is low production ( how many actually have a 5th wheel),
And to make it LOOK RIGHT .................. [emoticon]

Thats where AFTER-MARKET outfitters come into play.....I know off hand of a company in ELKHART alone (many others also).....that make CUSTOM BEDS.

Posted By: blofgren on 05/27/17 09:13am

Congrats, that's a beautiful truck. I went looking at the 2017 Super Duties a while ago and almost swallowed my tongue when I looked at the sticker price on them so that was enough to cure the itch for me! [emoticon]

Posted By: TxGearhead on 05/27/17 05:35pm

FishOnOne wrote:

Check out this jewel...

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My Millwright eye says that is about a 1/2 bubble low in front.

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/27/17 06:10pm

First sunny day here in NC since I bought the truck. At least enough time to hook up the camper and bring it out.

I guessed on the hitch. Moved it up to the highest setting to clear the bed rails since they are taller on the 17s. I was worried it would be too hose high. But from what I can tell, its good enough for me.

Posted By: FishOnOne on 05/28/17 08:57am

Very impressive rig!

My parents are camping at a near by state park and I stopped by yesterday to visit while coming home from the deer camp and right across from them was a brand new F450 King Ranch pulling a 40 plus ft. Jayco Seismic.

Posted By: bfast54 on 05/28/17 09:00am

That looks STUNNING.!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go......!

Posted By: rickeoni on 05/28/17 09:28am

You guys are making me jealous.

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Posted By: larry barnhart on 05/28/17 10:04am

Nice but I always think "wow" that makes the truck look small. Going though our city and seeing us in the windows along the street I wondered what non rv'rs think seeing us. Have a safe first tow.

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Posted By: lawnspecialties on 05/28/17 10:07am

rickeoni wrote:

You guys are making me jealous.

They have more. [emoticon]

Posted By: buc1980 on 05/28/17 12:03pm

lawnspecialties wrote:

Looks that the truck is squash some.Air bags maybe ?

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Posted By: DynoDragn on 05/28/17 12:40pm

Looks awesome!

Posted By: blofgren on 05/28/17 04:27pm

That's a beautiful looking set up. Wow, that trailer is long! There is no way I could get that in my back yard. Maybe that's a good excuse to look for an acreage! [emoticon]

Posted By: 4wheelingNUT!! on 05/28/17 08:45pm

lawnspecialties wrote:

Very nice looking set-up. I sure like how the 17 models look more solid looking, and the way they set up. The previous year models were to squatty looking.

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