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Topic: What can I Haul on a One Ton?
Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 05:41pm

All,

It turns out not much. I'm looking at a 2009 Ram 3500 Cummins/6Speed Manual Crew Cab SLT 4x4 SRW with a GVWR of 10,100# and a curb weight of 6,644#. That leaves me with a whooping 3,465# for a camper.

Try to find a hard side camper with a loaded weight under that. The pickings get pretty slim.

You're thoughts are welcome.

Bill

1978 27' Southwind MH - Gone
1982 19' Terry Taurus TT - Gone
1990 24' Prowler TT - Gone
TC - Still in the Hunt


Posted By: ticki2 on 01/24/17 06:20pm

I doubt if it's that much . Get your truck weighed , I'd bet it is more than 6644# .

'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

Posted By: work2much on 01/24/17 06:24pm

Many large hard sided campers you see going down the road are overweight. Especially with SRW. If that is a deal breaker for you then you will have to either get a bigger truck or a smaller camper to stay within cargo ratings

Ours is a heavy beast and wet and ready to go it just kisses the overload springs. We are probably 1,000lbs or so over the sticker rating from Dodge. We added air bags to level the camper side to side as the slide side weighs more.

I would take a look at Bigfoot/Northern Lite Campers. Very well made and not too heavy for a full size hard side camper. We had one on a 3/4 ton Dodge for many miles and despite being a bit over the truck rating it handled it very well. Also consider what additional options you can live without to save weight.

* This post was edited 01/24/17 06:31pm by work2much *

2022 Ram 3500 Laramie CTD DRW Crew 4x4 Aisin 4:10 Air ride.

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Posted By: KD4UPL on 01/24/17 06:41pm

Weigh the truck, specifically the rear axle. See how much capacity you have left before you hit the rear GAWR. This would be the realistic number to work with as far as how heavy a camper.
A majority of TC rigs, particularly on SRW trucks are over the GVWR, they just watch tire and axle weights. My own 11' TC used to be on a Chevy 3500 SRW at 11,140 pounds, GVWR was 9,900. It's currently on an '05 Chevy dually at 13,100 pounds, GVWR is 11,400.

Posted By: GeoBoy on 01/24/17 06:45pm

Northstar Arrow 8.5. I carried one on my 2005 Silverado 3500 SRW and I was under my 9,900 GVW by a few hundred pounds, nice camper.
The gentleman that has the camper today carries it on a Dodge just like the one you are looking at.

Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 06:49pm

All,

So, we can probably conclude that most campers we see on the road are overweight if they aren't DRW?

ticki2, I agree. I'd be down to 3,205# by just loading my 260# self!

I've considered Northern Lite and Bigfoot but would be overweight with them. Northwood Wolf Creek's line would work but I think Mellow Mike said they weren't as 4 season capable as some.

I think I'll consider a gasoline engine. They are a good deal lighter.

Thanks,

Bill

Posted By: towpro on 01/24/17 07:21pm

I carried a Wolf Creek 840 on my 2006 SRW 3500 Ram, and Mine was diesel but 2wd.
GVWR was 9900 lbs. i was a little over GWWR, but below my GVW Rear (limited by tire weight) enough i even towed a trailer with tong weight of 400-600 lbs.

also as other have said, northstar has several to fit the bill.

2022 Ford F150
Sold: 2016 Arctic Fox 990, 2018 Ram 3500, 2011 Open Range
Sold Forest River Forester 2401R Mercedes Benz. when campsites went from $90 to $190 per night.

Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 07:24pm

towpro,

How would you assess the cold weather performance of the Wolf Creek 840? I think I could just barely carry it. I think Mellow Mike sold his WC and bought a Northstar but I could be mistaken.

Best,

Bill

Posted By: towpro on 01/24/17 07:27pm

I only used the wolf creek in the spring-late fall. we really don't go out in dead of winter.

compared to my Arctic fox, I think the walls are 1" thinner. yes Mike bought northstar.

Posted By: deltabravo on 01/24/17 07:31pm

Arctic Fox 811 or 990. People do it all the time on that and lesser trucks, even though they are over the GVWR of the truck.

I haven't told the weight police that I'm overweight with an 811 on my dually, but now they know. OOPS.

2009 Silverado 3500HD Dually, D/A, CCLB 4x4 (bought new 8/30/09)
2018 Arctic Fox 992 with an Onan 2500i "quiet" model generator

Posted By: hedge on 01/24/17 07:45pm

My SRW Ford has a 11,500 GVW and I carry an Adventurer 89RB. I think I'm close but probably a couple hundred over. The sticker says 3450 cargo capacity.

2017 F350 Platinum DRW
2013 Adventurer 89RB

Posted By: TxGearhead on 01/24/17 07:49pm

You might be OK with the Bigfoot 1500 series. No basement and thinner insulation.

2018 Ram 3500 CC LB DRW 4X4 Cummins Aisin Laramie Pearl White
2018 Landmark Oshkosh
2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4
2014 NauticStar 21 ShallowBay 150HP Yamaha
2016 GoDevil 18X44 35HP Surface Drive

Posted By: kohldad on 01/24/17 07:50pm

Bette take that to a scale and actually weigh it. My 2004 in the same configuration weighed 4,700 front and 3040 rear for 7,740# total. So I think you will find you have a 1,000# less capacity than you think. My new 2015 gasser in same configuration weighs just over 7,000#.

2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Crew Cab SRW 6.4 Hemi LB 3.73 (12.4 hand calc avg mpg after 92,000 miles with camper)
2004 Lance 815 (prev: 2004 FW 35'; 1994 TT 30'; Tents)


Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 07:51pm

TxGearhead,

How heavy is the 2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4 in your sig?

Bill

Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 07:54pm

kohldad wrote:

Bette take that to a scale and actually weigh it. My 2004 in the same configuration weighed 4,700 front and 3040 rear for 7,740# total. So I think you will find you have a 1,000# less capacity than you think. My new 2015 gasser in same configuration weighs just over 7,000#.


That's my point exactly! If I want to be honestly under my truck's GVWR, I need to seriously consider a gasser. How do you like the 6.4L?

Thanks,

Bill

Posted By: kohldad on 01/24/17 08:10pm

Good news. You don't necessary need a gasser since Ram in 2014 adds 1,000# to the GVWR when you order diesel on a SRW 3500. My 2015 gasser has a 11,300# rating while a 2015 diesel has a 12,400# rating but both have within about 100# payload rating.

I love the 6.4. Only thing I miss sometimes is the exhaust brake, but have never had a problem heating up the brakes. It is a bit slower, does shift a bit more, but I'm never in a hurry or had a lack of power. I can run as fast as I want, accerlate as fast as I want, just uses a bit more fuel to do so. With taking it easy, I'm averaging 12.4 with the camper, 11.3 when pulling the boat with the camper, and 14.5 running around town without heavy traffic.

I ordered the 3.73s figuring on the highway I would be in 5th gear so figured the 4,10s would be too low in that gear. Turns out I can run 6th gear on the interstate and the rpms are just about right at 64mph. I've only had one instance where I had to shift to 5th for the day and that was going into about 25mph headwind. Just slowed down to about 58mph in 5th and still average 11.5mpg for the tank.

Because I do a lot of short driving combined with the lower mpgs of newer diesel plus the higher risk of expensive DEF repairs on long term ownership, I choose the gas and have no regrets.

Posted By: Buzzcut1 on 01/24/17 08:12pm

diesel vs gas engine really is not going to affect the rear axle capacity as the engine is right over the front axle. On my SRW I went with 19.5 wheels to give me 9000 pounds of wheel load capacity. My axle was rated at close to 10k by its MFG. I was well within those load capacities yet way over the GWVR. I drove it that way for many , many years. However after having gone to DRW no way I would go back to SRW

2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags


Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 08:32pm

Buzzcut1,

I get your point but my truck will be my daily driver unless I decide to get a beater. Thus, in the crowded Mid-Atlantic, I'm hunting a short bed SRW and an all season camper I can haul without exceeding the GVWR. I've considered Ricksons too.

Thanks,

Bill

Posted By: kohldad on 01/24/17 08:46pm

Don't let the "all-season" phrase get you too worried. My Lance 815 is not listed as an all-season camper, but with a few simple mods such as foam in the windows I don't care about, 1/2" foam under the mattress, and acrylic in the windows by the dinette, my camper handles the cold extremely well. It doesn't have a basement, the gray tank is saddled on the outsides, but the black tank is enclosed. I've had it in temps down to 0* and regularly boondock in temps in the 20s. The lance 845 is about the same camper except for a short bed truck.

I would recommend a long bed as the extra 18" doesn't really make a difference in traffic. It will handle the weight better and ride better due to the longer wheelbase. My truck is also my daily driver, though I may just be a bit more use to it since I've driven nothing but long beds the last 30 years.

Posted By: azdryheat on 01/24/17 09:12pm

You might have to bite the bullet and get the dually to haul the camper of your dreams. My dually has a payload of 5,000 pounds, just to whet your appetite. It handles the 3,500 pound hitch weight of my tow hauler with ease.

2013 Chevy 3500HD CC dually
2014 Voltage 3600 toy hauler
2019 RZR 1000XP TRE


Posted By: Eugarps on 01/24/17 09:15pm

azdryheat,

Or maybe I should "bite the bullet" and buy a fiver under 28' long and tow it with the OP SRW truck. [emoticon]

Bill

Posted By: burningman on 01/24/17 09:42pm

Buying a gas truck instead of a diesel just to stay within the sticker weight is silly.
For one thing, ALL the extra weight of a diesel is on the front end, where it actually does some good when you load up a tail-heavy camper.
Second, any dually will haul any camper. Show me one that broke.
There are no "light duty" American one ton dually axles or trucks.
They have plastered various weight rating stickers on essentially the same equipment and "weight police" type get all wound up about exceeding the LIMIT.

Seriously... tell me about the dually that a camper broke. Just keep within the load rating of your tires and add some springs or air bags and you'll be fine.

2017 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD SE
99 Ram 4x4 Dually Cummins
A whole lot more fuel, a whole lot more boost.
4.10 gears, Gear Vendors overdrive, exhaust brake
Built auto, triple disc, billet shafts.
Kelderman Air Ride, Helwig sway bar.


Posted By: Reddog1 on 01/24/17 10:55pm

Buzzcut1 wrote:

diesel vs gas engine really is not going to affect the rear axle capacity as the engine is right over the front axle. On my SRW I went with 19.5 wheels to give me 9000 pounds of wheel load capacity. My axle was rated at close to 10k by its MFG. I was well within those load capacities yet way over the GWVR. I drove it that way for many , many years. However after having gone to DRW no way I would go back to SRW
I am in agreement with Buzz. I am of the belief the tires and wheels are the weak points. There are advantages to DRW over SRW, but that does not mean the SRW will not do the job. I have a SRW and DRW. I have hauled my 4200 lb TC on both trucks.

Wayne

Posted By: TomP40 on 01/25/17 06:36am

My 2007 Ford F350 6.0 PSD SRW Short bed has a GVWR of 11400.
I found a 97 Lance Squire 3000sb winter package for it, which is very similar to a Lance 845 which I was originally looking for, that puts me at 11360 loaded up with everything including me and my dog.
And I mean everything. Tools, chainsaw, canned food etc.
I still have 1000 lbs left on my rear axle/tire rating and 700 on the front.
BTW, I live in Blue Ridge summit pa, just a short hop from Hagerstown if you want to check it out.

Tom

2007 F-350 4X4 SB Lariat 6.0 Powerstroke, bullet proof upgrades-EGR, remote oil cooler, stand pipes &dummy plugs, blue spring, water pump, STC fitting...
1997 Lance Squire 3000-My first Truck Camper

Posted By: schlep1967 on 01/25/17 06:45am

So according to your numbers your 1 ton truck will haul 1.7 tons and you are not happy with that. How many tons did you expect your 1 ton truck to carry?

Eugarps wrote:

All,

It turns out not much. I'm looking at a 2009 Ram 3500 Cummins/6Speed Manual Crew Cab SLT 4x4 SRW with a GVWR of 10,100# and a curb weight of 6,644#. That leaves me with a whooping 3,465# for a camper.

Try to find a hard side camper with a loaded weight under that. The pickings get pretty slim.

You're thoughts are welcome.

Bill


2021 Chevy Silverado LTZ 3500 Diesel
2022 Montana Legacy 3931FB
Pull-Rite Super Glide 4500

Posted By: TxGearhead on 01/25/17 07:28am

Eugarps wrote:

TxGearhead,

How heavy is the 2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4 in your sig?

Bill

I bought it used in Middletown MD. I weighed it that day at the Pilot truck stop in Hagerstown MD. With a full tank of water and a few clothes, and me, it was 3800. I've since added pots and pans and other essentials. It has optional side awning and A/C. I had it on the road last week and should have weighed it again. Bigfoot says it weighs 2820. My payload is 4018.
The newer 1 ton SRW trucks sit pretty high in the back. Loaded with the Bigfoot it now sits level or maybe just a little bit low at the back. I added a BigWig anti-sway bar. Considering Stableloads. Most people would say it's fine as is. Before the BigWig I didn't have any scary moments, or sway from 18 wheelers, etc.

Posted By: towpro on 01/25/17 07:34am

Truck Camper Mag has an article showing the true weights of most of the campers that are for sale today.

Posted By: mkirsch on 01/25/17 07:50am

As if we know of every camper combination that has ever hit the road, and its fate.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

Posted By: kohldad on 01/25/17 08:48am

Quote:

Truck Camper Mag has an article showing the true weights of most of the campers that are for sale today.


Sorry but the TCM weights are advertised dry weights pulled from the brochures, not real world actual weights. Dry weights are without any options and they consider a battery as an option.

Posted By: Grit dog on 01/25/17 10:52am

This topic comes up about once a week or more on here.
Many......ummm....opinions and facts.
I wouldn't blink at hauling 4-4500lbs in that truck with the right tires and suspension.
Others would.
Do a couple hours of reading in this thread and you'll have enough info and bs to form your opinion.

2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

Posted By: towpro on 01/25/17 11:12am

kohldad wrote:

Quote:

Truck Camper Mag has an article showing the true weights of most of the campers that are for sale today.


Sorry but the TCM weights are advertised dry weights pulled from the brochures, not real world actual weights. Dry weights are without any options and they consider a battery as an option.


just for the heck of it, look up the arctic fox 990 on that link.


Dry weight above includes the Fox Value Package (595 pounds) with rear awning, sliding battery rack, dual 30 pound LP tanks, roof rack, ladder, Rieco-Titan electric jacks, outside speakers, sliding storage tray, TV antenna, diamond plate knee wall armor, six cubic foot two-way refrigerator, deluxe stainless-look refrigerator door panels, 22? oven, microwave, pull-out pantry, multi-speed reversible fan vent, hardwood hamper doors, below dinette access door and drawer, front bedroom shelf, and bedspread – MSRP $5,490.

*Arctic Fox 990: dry weight, 3,605 pounds + 53 gallons fresh, 442 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 30-pound full propane tanks, 54 pounds + 2 batteries, 130 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 4,781 pounds

Posted By: kohldad on 01/25/17 11:52am

I looked at the Lance which is what I'm familiar with and those are brochure weights. Looks like little bit more homework went into the Artic Fox as the brochure weight is 3,010 pounds for the 990.

Posted By: Rubiranch on 01/25/17 12:47pm

"What can I Haul on a One Ton?"

Well lets see.

Dirt, rocks, building materials, sod, kids (in two states I believe [emoticon] ) and even campers. The list is endless.

Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.

Hope you find the right camper. [emoticon]

Posted By: Eugarps on 01/25/17 04:54pm

Rubiranch wrote:

"What can I Haul on a One Ton?"

Well lets see.

Dirt, rocks, building materials, sod, kids (in two states I believe [emoticon] ) and even campers. The list is endless.

Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.

Hope you find the right camper. [emoticon]


I thought you'd do:

How much camper could a one ton haul, if a one ton could haul campers?

[emoticon] [emoticon]

Posted By: Rubiranch on 01/25/17 05:54pm

Eugarps wrote:


I thought you'd do:

How much camper could a one ton haul, if a one ton could haul campers?

[emoticon] [emoticon]


I'm not that quick. LOL

Posted By: Rubiranch on 01/25/17 06:16pm

Eugarps wrote:

All,

with a GVWR of 10,100# and a curb weight of 6,644#. That leaves me with a whooping 3,465# for a camper.


Bill


My truck has a GVW of 9500 lbs. It weighs 6220 lbs. That leaves me 3280 for cargo or as stated on the sticker in my glove box 2935 lbs.

My camper partially loaded minus fluids weighs 3760 lbs, 9980 lbs combined.

That puts my truck over by 480 lbs. [emoticon]

So here's is how I look at it.

Tires are rated at 3190 max X 4 = 12,760.

Front GVW 4400 lbs, rear 6200 lbs or a total GVW of 10,600 lbs.

Looks like I'm really 620 lbs under. [emoticon]

So, it looks like I'm within the limits.

Yep, I'm good to go. [emoticon]

Posted By: MORSNOW on 01/25/17 06:34pm

Eugarps wrote:

All,

It turns out not much. I'm looking at a 2009 Ram 3500 Cummins/6Speed Manual Crew Cab SLT 4x4 SRW with a GVWR of 10,100# and a curb weight of 6,644#. That leaves me with a whooping 3,465# for a camper.

Try to find a hard side camper with a loaded weight under that. The pickings get pretty slim.

You're thoughts are welcome.

Bill


Both Wolf Creek models will fit within your goal fully loaded. They are full size, 8' wide and 6'6" tall on the inside. The cabover has a full queen bed and the dinette bed in my WC850 is also 6'6" long so adults fit fine. Don't think you need to buy a narrow hard side camper with a squatty low ceiling, there are options out there.

2014 Wolf Creek 850SB
2012 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD

7,220# Truck/10,400# Camper Fully Loaded


Posted By: Eugarps on 01/25/17 06:43pm

MORSNOW wrote:

Eugarps wrote:

All,

It turns out not much. I'm looking at a 2009 Ram 3500 Cummins/6Speed Manual Crew Cab SLT 4x4 SRW with a GVWR of 10,100# and a curb weight of 6,644#. That leaves me with a whooping 3,465# for a camper.

Try to find a hard side camper with a loaded weight under that. The pickings get pretty slim.

You're thoughts are welcome.

Bill


Both Wolf Creek models will fit within your goal fully loaded. They are full size, 8' wide and 6'6" tall on the inside. The cabover has a full queen bed and the dinette bed in my WC850 is also 6'6" long so adults fit fine. Don't think you need to buy a narrow hard side camper with a squatty low ceiling, there are options out there.


I like the 840 a lot and, yes, it will work. You're an Alaskan, what do you think of Wolf Creek's cold weather capability? I found an 840 equipped as I want but before I drive from Maryland to Oregon to look at it, I need an opinion of that point. Mellow Mike was apparantly not all that impressed with this WC's 4 season performance but he, while an avid overlander and TC professional, is from Arizona. I'm from Maryland and travel the Rockies in winter to visit my kids. Thus cold weather performance is important to me. High plains winters are nasty and I want to be warm, if I need to hole up behind a grain elevator.... I've done that in Montana in my 1970 VW Squareback.

Bill

Posted By: GeoBoy on 01/25/17 08:01pm

Why drive to Oregon when you can drive to NH and visit the largest truck camper dealer on the east coast, Truck Camper Warehouse?

Posted By: MORSNOW on 01/25/17 09:38pm

Eugarps wrote:


I like the 840 a lot and, yes, it will work. You're an Alaskan, what do you think of Wolf Creek's cold weather capability? I found an 840 equipped as I want but before I drive from Maryland to Oregon to look at it, I need an opinion of that point. Mellow Mike was apparantly not all that impressed with this WC's 4 season performance but he, while an avid overlander and TC professional, is from Arizona. I'm from Maryland and travel the Rockies in winter to visit my kids. Thus cold weather performance is important to me. High plains winters are nasty and I want to be warm, if I need to hole up behind a grain elevator.... I've done that in Montana in my 1970 VW Squareback.

Bill


I don't use mine in the winter, however I do use it in the spring when everything is still froze up and into late fall and have not had to run the heater a whole lot. I have yet to use up both propane tanks in one season. I have the optional storm windows but have not needed them yet. You can also get double pane windows if you'd like. A Wolf Creek is very similar to a Arctic Fox minus the 2" thick walls, most everything else is built the same (wood cabinets, fabrics, quality appliances, etc).

Posted By: towpro on 01/26/17 07:18am

How about the Arctic Fox 865? It may have the thicker sidewalls (isolation) but no Slide (less weight). TruckCamperMag does not show the dry weight but does show the weight of the packages. Northwood is showing dry weight as 2641 lbs. (600 lbs more than Wolf Creek?)

And there are several in stock A days ride north of you if you want to go see one. (they also have the WolfCreeks in stock)

Posted By: Bedlam on 01/26/17 07:43am

FYI: With the Arctic Fox you not only get better insulation than the Wolf Creek, but the LPG and holding tank capacities are also larger.

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Posted By: Eugarps on 01/26/17 08:35am

Thanks to all who've responded.

I'm in the process of buying a one ton gasser and looking for an Arctic Fox 865 or a Bigfoot 25C9.4SB. That combination will work well for me, I'll post pictures, when I put the rig together later this spring. TCW has a couple of 865's but none with generators. I'll watch their inventor.

The 865 is an example of a camper Northwood was trying to phase out but the buyers kept asking for them. So, AF builds a few every year. AF responds to customer needs. Nice! That said, the AF 865 is about 12" taller than the BF 9.4SB.

Best!

Bill

* This post was edited 01/26/17 09:22am by Eugarps *

Posted By: Rubiranch on 01/26/17 09:05am

My truck is a gasser and I haul a 4000 lb camper.

I know its not a diesel but I have zero complaints and I'm sure the Hemi has more power than mine.

Enjoy your new truck and camper.

Posted By: towpro on 01/26/17 09:20am

Bill, in upper right side of your screen, do you see "Private Messages"? I think you have a couple of them.

Posted By: Bedlam on 01/26/17 09:34am

Eugarps wrote:

Thanks to all who've responded.

I'm in the process of buying a one ton gasser and looking for an Arctic Fox 865 or a Bigfoot 25C9.4SB. That combination will work well for me, I'll post pictures, when I put the rig together later this spring. TCW has a couple of 865's but none with generators. I'll watch their inventor.

The 865 is an example of a camper Northwood was trying to phase out but the buyers kept asking for them. So, AF builds a few every year. AF responds to customer needs. Nice! That said, the AF 865 is about 12" taller than the BF 9.4SB.

Best!

Bill

The 865 used be a limited run for dealers that committed to purchasing a set quantity. There was enough demand that it is now in a regular production cycle and any dealer should be able to get one.

Note: If the 865 is like the the 811, the long bed version will not have room for the generator. Only the short bed versions of the 865 and 811 have sufficient overhang to fit the Onan. Long bed trucks need a 990 or larger if you want a built in generator. Short bed campers can fit a long bed truck, but that's another discussion...

Posted By: mkirsch on 01/26/17 09:36am

Grit dog wrote:

I wouldn't blink at hauling 4-4500lbs in that truck with the right tires and suspension.


I wouldn't blink at hauling 4-4500lbs in an F150, WITH THE RIGHT TIRES AND SUSPENSION, either. Plate and box the frame, slap some full-floating 8-bolt axles, hang F350 springs under it, stick in some airbags, and put 19.5's on it. It'll handle a 4500lb camper just fine.

ANY stock F350 SRW is going to be over the rear axle rating with 4500lbs in the bed. It will need upgraded tires and suspension help for that much weight, in order to sit right and be comfortable to drive.

You "weight enablers" make it sound like the truck comes with "the right tires and suspension." It doesn't.

In some people's opinion, if you have to throw away the OEM tires and throw thousands of dollars in suspension helpers at the truck to carry the load, when the next size up truck can do it BONE STOCK, it's silly to not get the truck that can do it right out of the box. Of course that makes them "weight police."

Posted By: jimh406 on 01/26/17 09:59am

mkirsch wrote:

ANY stock F350 SRW is going to be over the rear axle rating with 4500lbs in the bed. It will need upgraded tires and suspension help for that much weight, in order to sit right and be comfortable to drive.


Sorry, that's just not true but could be for the OP's rig.

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Posted By: Bedlam on 01/26/17 10:18am

mkirsch wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

I wouldn't blink at hauling 4-4500lbs in that truck with the right tires and suspension.


I wouldn't blink at hauling 4-4500lbs in an F150, WITH THE RIGHT TIRES AND SUSPENSION, either. Plate and box the frame, slap some full-floating 8-bolt axles, hang F350 springs under it, stick in some airbags, and put 19.5's on it. It'll handle a 4500lb camper just fine.

ANY stock F350 SRW is going to be over the rear axle rating with 4500lbs in the bed. It will need upgraded tires and suspension help for that much weight, in order to sit right and be comfortable to drive.

You "weight enablers" make it sound like the truck comes with "the right tires and suspension." It doesn't.

In some people's opinion, if you have to throw away the OEM tires and throw thousands of dollars in suspension helpers at the truck to carry the load, when the next size up truck can do it BONE STOCK, it's silly to not get the truck that can do it right out of the box. Of course that makes them "weight police."

Calls out the owner of a DRW that has less GVWR than a current SRW...

Posted By: Reddog1 on 01/26/17 10:29am

It is very easy to get emotional on this subject and post something you should not. please think before you post.

Wayne
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Posted By: 12V Cummins on 01/26/17 10:46am

If you are so concerned with weight and want a generator, but want to limit yourself to a short bed truck then stick with say the wolf creeks. Can get a built in generator and will still but under 3000lbs dry then get a short bed truck with over a 4,000 payload which most are. If a truck has that 4000lb payload it will have sufficient tires, rims, axle, etc.

Posted By: Eugarps on 01/26/17 10:46am

All,

Thanks for all your responses. You answered my questions and I now have a definite direction for my TC purchase. I'll post pictures in another post.

Thanks again,

Bill

Posted By: mkirsch on 01/26/17 11:28am

Bedlam wrote:

Calls out the owner of a DRW that has less GVWR than a current SRW...


...but the same axle ratings as a current DRW, a whole lot less curb weight, and as a result, a payload capacity of over 6000lbs [emoticon]

Posted By: Reddog1 on 01/26/17 12:19pm

From the OP, 'You answered my questions and I now have a definite direction for my TC purchase.'

The thread is closed.

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