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Same number of keys for direct replacement as the original.
Is there any benefit? very litle.
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But the locks can be re-keyed any locksmith should be able to do it...
If you buy a lock it will probably have the same type key as everyone else has.
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They did not get inside my 5er. Thought it was because I had latched the deadbolt, until I saw another trailer on one side and a motor home on the other side where they had broken out the door windows and got in.
They could go for my old levis and sweat shirts or my set of old pots and pans.
Most of my valuable items, camera, computer, kindle etc. are in the truck with me.
I would sooner think they would steel my lawn chairs and outside tables. Maybe the battery, shore cable or the whole TT for a met lab.
Granted some folks will steal about anything but I would bet most of the serious thievery happens when the TTs are in unattended storage.
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Note: Your door key unlocks the dead bolt, and the handle, on the outside. But on the inside you cannot unlock the handle. So if someone had a key that fit, they could lock the handle, and you cannot unlock that from the inside. Atleast it does on our toyhauler with the traditional handle setup.
Ever notice that on your rig?
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Has anyone tried the keyless entry lock that has push buttons for the combination?
As far as i know the key is specific to the deadbolt . The paddles on the lock uses the same deadbolt key but those paddle locks are universal .
facory wrote:
I have read a lot about how many keys will fit the standard trailer door lock. 2 questions: (1) Can the door locks be re-keyed like they do with padlocks? (2) If I buy a new lock will there be fewer keys that will fit?
I have read a lot about how many keys will fit the standard trailer door lock. 2 questions: (1) Can the door locks be re-keyed like they do with padlocks? (2) If I buy a new lock will there be fewer keys that will fit?
1. yes, during the big recall they supplied replacement innards.
2. possibly, but probably not as many as with the standard locks supplied???
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Strabo wrote:
Add insurance to cover stuff inside your rig, then relax. If They want in, they will.
Note: Your door key unlocks the dead bolt, and the handle, on the outside. But on the inside you cannot unlock the handle. So if someone had a key that fit, they could lock the handle, and you cannot unlock that from the inside. Atleast it does on our toyhauler with the traditional handle setup.
Ever notice that on your rig?
Add insurance to cover stuff inside your rig, then relax. If They want in, they will.
Note: Your door key unlocks the dead bolt, and the handle, on the outside. But on the inside you cannot unlock the handle. So if someone had a key that fit, they could lock the handle, and you cannot unlock that from the inside. Atleast it does on our toyhauler with the traditional handle setup.
Ever notice that on your rig?
Funny---- not that way on the 3 5th wheel trailers I have owned?????
I routinly Lock my "Paddle handle". With door open....shut door....then ----My dead bolt I lock inside..
Do it all the time.
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This is not a unreasonable thought.
Too bad that the RV industry has some serious shortcomings in this area.
Many do not know that it is real easy to get locked out as well.
I found out when I accidently locked my wife out.
I arose early one morning for a hunt. My wife was sleeping in.
When I left, I locked both of the door locks with my key, so she would be safe.
Later she got up, and a dog needed to go out to potty. So she went out with it on a leash intending to just be out a few minutes. When she shut the door, she was locked out. Since is was 20 degrees out, and she was not dressed for it, panic set in.
Luckily, my brothers truck was in camp, and it was not locked, and there was a spare key in it.
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
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facory wrote:
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Has anyone tried the keyless entry lock that has push buttons for the combination?
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Has anyone tried the keyless entry lock that has push buttons for the combination?
Yes, I bought one and installed on the door to the dressing room on one of my horse trailers. It's sometimes a little fiddly to work if it's wet with rain or dew, but most of the time, it unlocks quickly.
We like it because there are several of us getting in and out of there at times, so it's handy to not have to deal with a key.
Huntindog wrote:
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
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Bumpyroad wrote:
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
Yes but that requires YOU to lock it..Huntindog wrote:
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
The problem with the RV locks is that I am able to lock the door upon leaving, and my unsuspecting wife can exit later, without unlocking it, locking herself out.
Huntindog wrote:
The problem with the RV locks is that I am able to lock the door upon leaving, and my unsuspecting wife can exit later, without unlocking it, locking herself out.
Bumpyroad wrote:
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
Yes but that requires YOU to lock it..Huntindog wrote:
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
The problem with the RV locks is that I am able to lock the door upon leaving, and my unsuspecting wife can exit later, without unlocking it, locking herself out.
that's exactly how my home locks work. I can exit with them locked and close the door behind me, locking myself out.
bumpy
facory wrote:
I have read a lot about how many keys will fit the standard trailer door lock. 2 questions: (1) Can the door locks be re-keyed like they do with padlocks? (2) If I buy a new lock will there be fewer keys that will fit?
I have read a lot about how many keys will fit the standard trailer door lock. 2 questions: (1) Can the door locks be re-keyed like they do with padlocks? (2) If I buy a new lock will there be fewer keys that will fit?
There's a website rvlocks.com ? Where you can buy new locks and get them keyed alike you can also get cylinders so your lock,deadbolt and storage compartments all have the same key at least I only need one key
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Bumpyroad wrote:
that's exactly how my home locks work. I can exit with them locked and close the door behind me, locking myself out.
bumpy
We are not on the same page. let me try again.Huntindog wrote:
The problem with the RV locks is that I am able to lock the door upon leaving, and my unsuspecting wife can exit later, without unlocking it, locking herself out.
Bumpyroad wrote:
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
Yes but that requires YOU to lock it..Huntindog wrote:
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
But I see this as a major flaw in the design of RV locks. My home locks will not allow for this to happen, and I think it is wrong for it to do this in RV locks. But there is little competition in this area, and this is the way it is, along with the limited key issue.
my home locks can be locked by twisting the "thingy" while door is open and shut the door and it is locked. the dead bolt of course needs a key from the outside to lock/unlock it.
bumpy
The problem with the RV locks is that I am able to lock the door upon leaving, and my unsuspecting wife can exit later, without unlocking it, locking herself out.
that's exactly how my home locks work. I can exit with them locked and close the door behind me, locking myself out.
bumpy
Yes YOU can exit, locking your house door as you leave.... But if any one else leaves behind you, they must unlock the doorknob in order to leave, making it impossible for YOU to lock THEM out. This is how a normal residential doorknob works... Yes I know there are SOME, generally commercial doorknobs that always lock when closed, and that can be opened from inside while remaining locked.... But that is the exception to "normal".
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GrandpaKip wrote:
I have never locked the handle and only use the deadbolt. Never really understood why there were 2 keyholes.
The door latch accepts a master key. Every dealer salesman, maintenance guy, yard boy, and broom pusher has a master key that will open the latch on the door, there are probably tens of thousands of those keys out there. This way when a dealer is showing you trailers, one key will open all the doors to RV's you want to look in (the dealer never uses the deadbolt lock). I have never locked the handle and only use the deadbolt. Never really understood why there were 2 keyholes.
The deadbolt lock takes a more specific key, there are probably only thousands of those out there. Your baggage doors, everyone in the world has a key for those.
Bumpyroad wrote:
that's exactly how my home locks work. I can exit with them locked and close the door behind me, locking myself out.
bumpy
that's exactly how my home locks work. I can exit with them locked and close the door behind me, locking myself out.
bumpy
Not really.
Your home lock has a turn button in the middle of the knob so the person to exit after you can unlock the door and not be locked out. Your trailer door does not have a turn button for the paddle lock. The paddle lock can only be locked and unlocked with a key. There is no way to unlock it from the inside. You can open it from the inside but you can't unlock it. At least none I've ever seen have one. Maybe you have something custom and not the standard RV locks like the rest of us.
Some paddle locks were made so they could not even be opened from the inside if someone locked it with the key from the outside. That could trap folks in the RV with no way to open the door. That's why there was a recall of those locks.
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SprinklerMan wrote:
I solved my problem , I dont lock my camper . Please someone come in and take the toys in the bunk house , my extra blue jeans and old work coat . There is some canned goods if you are hungry , and a old mis matched tool set under the bed . If you need the stuff that bad , have at it .
The property is of little concern to me.I solved my problem , I dont lock my camper . Please someone come in and take the toys in the bunk house , my extra blue jeans and old work coat . There is some canned goods if you are hungry , and a old mis matched tool set under the bed . If you need the stuff that bad , have at it .
But I would much prefer that the locks worked like residential door locks... Even though it will not make it Fort Knox, I would like it to slow the bad guys down, and make some noise so that whoever is in the TT can prepare a warm welcome for them.
But, I will admit that I store my camper at home in a shed. ( I don't lock the shed either but, I live in the country)
At the park I still don't lock it. There are enough people around that if someone starts taking TV's out of campers it is going to get noticed and the police called quickly.
http://www.rvlocks.com/ is not a valid website.
http://www.rvlocksandmore.com/ Is a valid website. Maybe that's what the person was thinking of.
They sell the Global Link brand locks. I ordered new door handles and a whole slew of baggage compartment locks with their "keyed alike" option to re-key EVERYTHING in my fleet, so everything uses the same key.
Someone else posted that there's only 20 or so key cut styles. That's not correct.
Fastec (FIC) keys, there are 51 or 52 key styles.
Global Link keys, there are 50 available.
Granted, that's still not very many key codes.
A well equipped dealer might have a re-key kit. I asked my dealer about getting locks rekeyed and they gave me a "deer in the headlights' look, then claimed it wasn't possible.
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Huntindog wrote:
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I would like it to slow the bad guys down, and make some noise so that whoever is in the TT can prepare a warm welcome for them.
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I would like it to slow the bad guys down, and make some noise so that whoever is in the TT can prepare a warm welcome for them.
Exactly. THAT, is when I lock my camper door, when I am inside. "Never give up a strategic advantage".
When I am away from the camper, I leave it unlocked, with a sign outside "Pet Inside, Please Rescue in Case of Emergency".
I would hope someone would open the door so my dog could get out if need be.
deltabravo wrote:
A well equipped dealer might have a re-key kit. I asked my dealer about getting locks rekeyed and they gave me a "deer in the headlights' look, then claimed it wasn't possible.
A well equipped dealer might have a re-key kit. I asked my dealer about getting locks rekeyed and they gave me a "deer in the headlights' look, then claimed it wasn't possible.
Fastec had a big recall a while back and lots of people rekeyed their door locks. all it took was to use the "master" key to remove old "guts" and insert new. your dealer is woefully misinformed.
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CavemanCharlie wrote:
At the park I still don't lock it. There are enough people around that if someone starts taking TV's out of campers it is going to get noticed and the police called quickly.
Boondocking as we do, there are no neighbors around....And a call for police (IF there is cell coverage) will take hours not minutes.... One must be self reliant and able to handle the situation.At the park I still don't lock it. There are enough people around that if someone starts taking TV's out of campers it is going to get noticed and the police called quickly.
A lock on the door that does a reasonable job is the first thing.. If one is sleeping inside, and a bad guy tries to get in... It SHOULD slow him down and make some noise... We had a incident by Flagstaff some years back, where an elderly couple was killed by a couple of prison escapees that entered their TT... It CAN happen.
We have two exterior doors and they each have their own key. I just hate that. Then we have keys for the outdoor shower, exterior compartment doors, coupler lock and the receiver lock. In comparison, our house works on just one key (sigh).
myredracer wrote:
A few years ago we bought some tubular cam locks from Industrial Lock & Hardware. Excellent service. They seem to have changed their name to CH751.com
We have two exterior doors and they each have their own key. I just hate that. Then we have keys for the outdoor shower, exterior compartment doors, coupler lock and the receiver lock. In comparison, our house works on just one key (sigh).
All you have to do is buy the cylinders and all your locks (even the compartment locks) can be on the same key. I changed all mine. Any good dealer could fix you up, call around. All you need is a dealer with a "change" key. Talk to the parts department.
A few years ago we bought some tubular cam locks from Industrial Lock & Hardware. Excellent service. They seem to have changed their name to CH751.com
We have two exterior doors and they each have their own key. I just hate that. Then we have keys for the outdoor shower, exterior compartment doors, coupler lock and the receiver lock. In comparison, our house works on just one key (sigh).
deltabravo wrote:
Someone keeps posting that you can buy locks and stuff at http://www.rvlocks.com/
http://www.rvlocks.com/ is not a valid website.
Someone keeps posting that you can buy locks and stuff at http://www.rvlocks.com/
http://www.rvlocks.com/ is not a valid website.
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It doesn't matter how unique the key or how fancy the lock is anyway, most lock can easily be defeated with a screwdriver. As with their residential cousins, the door frame is the weakest part of the system. The doors in trailers come mounted on some pretty thin and weak frames. Some you can flex with your hand alone. If someone wanted to get in then they could easily use a screwdriver or small pry bar to separate the door from the frame to open it. Even with the deadbolt engaged it's relatively easy to do and can be done in silence.
There's a few locks that can help lessen the likelihood of this happening. A lock like the Trimark 060-1650 has a couple of pins that slide into a heavier duty striker plate. The pins help keep the door and the frame locked together and it's a lot more difficult to separate the two. The other is an automotive style door lock that uses a strike bolt and claw mechanism similar to what's found on vehicle doors. Both of these types of door locks are more common to motorhomes, but they can be adapted to a trailer.
Most of your thieves out there are pretty lazy. Just locking up the trailer would be good enough to get a pass. But if they really want in, they're not going to fool with keys or jimmying locks. They'll just take the easy way out and just bypass the lock entirely by prying the trailer open. Even if you did shore up your door, you'd then have to worry about all those windows and skylights. If they want in, they'll get in.
I used to lock my Jeep, because it had a nice stereo. This taught me two lessons after I had to replace the Jeep top ($800) and the stereo ($400)...
Don't leave valuables, don't lock doors, or you will be replacing both.
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The only time I lock our TT doors is when we are in it.
I used to lock my Jeep, because it had a nice stereo. This taught me two lessons after I had to replace the Jeep top ($800) and the stereo ($400)...
Don't leave valuables, don't lock doors, or you will be replacing both.
The only time I lock our TT doors is when we are in it.
I used to lock my Jeep, because it had a nice stereo. This taught me two lessons after I had to replace the Jeep top ($800) and the stereo ($400)...
Don't leave valuables, don't lock doors, or you will be replacing both.
Or don't go to that neighborhood.
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facory wrote:
Would like to hear from anyone who has converted their lock set to the keyless version shown on rvlock.com
Would like to hear from anyone who has converted their lock set to the keyless version shown on rvlock.com
We have it. It's one of our favorite mods to date. We have a key fob and key combo, and rarely use the actual key.
It seems well built. I wish the inside handle was metal instead of plastic, but don't think it will be an issue in the long run. We had to modify our screen door for it to work, because the screen door interfered with the handle on the inside. Used an angle grinder to grind down the metal a bit and covered the raw edge in gloss black automotive acrylic paint to match the OEM finish.
We also like that we can give the code to someone and change it afterwards. Gives them temporary access to the RV but doesn't require giving out a key. Useful for having people in our group check on the dogs, or having family visiting let themselves in if we happen to be at the store when they arrive.
Huntindog wrote:
A lock on the door that does a reasonable job is the first thing.. If one is sleeping inside, and a bad guy tries to get in... It SHOULD slow him down and make some noise... We had a incident by Flagstaff some years back, where an elderly couple was killed by a couple of prison escapees that entered their TT... It CAN happen.
CavemanCharlie wrote:
At the park I still don't lock it. There are enough people around that if someone starts taking TV's out of campers it is going to get noticed and the police called quickly.
Boondocking as we do, there are no neighbors around....And a call for police (IF there is cell coverage) will take hours not minutes.... One must be self reliant and able to handle the situation.At the park I still don't lock it. There are enough people around that if someone starts taking TV's out of campers it is going to get noticed and the police called quickly.
A lock on the door that does a reasonable job is the first thing.. If one is sleeping inside, and a bad guy tries to get in... It SHOULD slow him down and make some noise... We had a incident by Flagstaff some years back, where an elderly couple was killed by a couple of prison escapees that entered their TT... It CAN happen.
Yes, I should have added that I camp in areas where there are people around and the police are only a few minutes away.