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Topic: 2014 RAM 2500 6.4 burning through tires
Posted By: samhain7 on 04/26/16 08:49am

Hi all.
Want to get some opinions on this.
My 2014 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 burned through the stock tires at 38,000kms (23,612mi).
I got pretty much from everyone that my driving was the culprit. For the record,
I drive like a grandma and even my wife gets annoyed by that.
I purchased (on reccomendation of the tire shop) Goodyear Duratrac tires.
9,000kms(5592mi) in on them, and the front wheels outer tread is ROUNDED. Like REALLY rounded. The engine side of both tires is fine.
I take the truck to the dealership and they suggest I need an alignment. Which I would like
to trust them until the guy said "Oh these 6.4 are famous for doing that to front tires".
So just like that, all credibility out the window. But I thought I would check here.

Is it possible that out of the cummins, the 5.7 and the 6.4 that only the 6.4 wrecks tires?

Any other suggestions would be great!
Thanks

* This post was edited 04/26/16 09:05am by samhain7 *

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Posted By: djgodden on 04/26/16 09:02am

I have a 2012 4x4 Ram 2500 Laramie Longhorn with 6.7 Cummins. Never had that weird wear problem. IMHO, you need your alignment checked ASAP. I have 37,000 miles on mine, rotate regularly, alignment on the slightest indication of unusual wear. Big heavy truck will kill tires quickly.

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Posted By: samhain7 on 04/26/16 09:04am

More info, I do rotate every 10,000....should have added that....

Posted By: donn0128 on 04/26/16 09:05am

Never heard of a gas burner eating tires. Must be something new.
BTW my OE tires were junk by 30K miles. Tires on wifes car lasted 23K miles and were done. Now, couple questions. Tread design? 4X4 or 4X2? Scaled weight on front and rear axles? How much off pavement driving do you do?
BTW, find a good alignment shop and have them go over it. NOT the dealership, but someone who specalizes in alignment work.




Posted By: samhain7 on 04/26/16 09:09am

4X4, the original tires were firestones, the new tires are Goodyear Duratrac...
I don't have the axle weights...

Posted By: Mmaxed on 04/26/16 09:11am

Find a competent alignment shop and get it fixed. My '15 6.4 does not eat tires on the front. They will be shot by 25k miles, but not because of a bad alignment.

Posted By: 45Ricochet on 04/26/16 09:49am

Different animal but my 06 Ram with the Cummins would round over front end tires on both inside and outsides. Lot of mountain driving though.

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Posted By: jmtandem on 04/26/16 10:11am

Quote:

Is it possible that out of the cummins, the 5.7 and the 6.4 that only the 6.4 wrecks tires?


Get to the alignment shop. I get 53,000 miles or so from a set of tires on my Ram and have the heavy diesel up front.

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Posted By: MerkelG on 04/26/16 10:39am

Factory specs for toe in is 1/4". Should be 1/32 and castor at 3.7 to 4.5 deg. Ask at turbo diesel register. Com.

Posted By: mowin on 04/26/16 11:16am

I was lucky to get 10k out of the stock Firestone AT. Got 25k out of a set of coopers. Just put another set of cooper's on a couple months ago. No abnormal wear on either set.

Posted By: Vanished on 04/26/16 12:47pm

14k on my factory Firestone AT's and they are already almost shot.. Junk tires IMHO..

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Posted By: BBFD on 04/26/16 12:53pm

samhain7 wrote:

4X4, the original tires were firestones, the new tires are Goodyear Duratrac...
I don't have the axle weights...


36k on the truck in my sig and I had to replace my OE Firestones and that includes having two winters of snow tires. I don't think I got 30k out of them. My wife drives mostly highway with it and tires were rotated.

I tend to believe there is a relationship between tire life and what the factory decides to ship the truck with (cheapest possible tires)...

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Posted By: GordonThree on 04/26/16 01:14pm

Just hit 30000 mi on my Outdoorsman and notice the OE Goodyear Wrangler Pro's looking pretty worn. It's funny since they're 10 ply tires on a 1/2 ton grocery getter, they're not even working close to what their load rating is.

I'll get new tires with the new truck in a few months [emoticon]

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Posted By: Me Again on 04/26/16 01:16pm

RAM calls for 1/4" toe in on the diesels, and people have a good alignment shop decrease that to 1/32" Toe in is most likely causing the rounded outer edges. General wear is standard fair with the Firestone Transforce AT. HT is not much better. I have 12K on our new RAM and tires are doing fair.

Chris

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Posted By: CampersX4 on 04/26/16 01:52pm

I have a 2014 2500 4x4 with the 5.7. The original tires lasted 17k miles. The alignment on this truck seems to be my issue. I had it aligned at 13k as the front left tire was wearing funny. I purchased new tires at 17k and had it realigned again as it started pulling right. At 31k I had it realigned at the dealer when it was in for in of the recalls. 40k it needs alignment again. Kind of a pain considering I don't do any off-roading.

Posted By: SouthpawHD on 04/26/16 02:37pm

I would concur with a few others and say that your alignment is likely your culprit.

Found this handy webpage that could help as well:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/g810/10-things-your-tires-can-tell-you-about-your-car/

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Posted By: camp-n-family on 04/26/16 02:50pm

I've got 55k kms on my stock tires so far, around 6k of that towing. They are evenly worn with lots of tread left. I keep them aired to 80psi all the time. I only have the 5.7 though.

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Posted By: coolbreeze01 on 04/26/16 03:06pm

samhain7 wrote:

More info, I do rotate every 10,000....should have added that....


From the Goodyear tire site:

"Rotating your tires every 3,000 – 6,000 miles will help eliminate premature tire wear and could save you hundreds of dollars."

I don't see 10K recommended anywhere.

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Posted By: samhain7 on 04/26/16 03:08pm

coolbreez. My profile says Toronto. Which is in Canada. Which is in KMS..... [emoticon]

Posted By: Bedlam on 04/26/16 04:15pm

Even the cheap Continental 17" tires that came with my Ford lasted over 30K miles (almost three years), so you definitely have an alignment issue. The toe adjustment that was referenced should help with the shoulder wear (I assume you are running the correct pressure in your tires).

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Posted By: Me Again on 04/26/16 04:47pm

camp-n-family wrote:

I've got 55k kms on my stock tires so far, around 6k of that towing. They are evenly worn with lots of tread left. I keep them aired to 80psi all the time. I only have the 5.7 though.


So why are you over inflating you tires. My 15 3500 Laramie diesel 4x4 only calls for 60 in front tires at full rated load. What does your door jam sticker say? With the lighter rear axle rating I doubt it calls for 80 lbs.

Over inflation decreases traction, decreases braking and leads to impact damage.

Chris

Posted By: camp-n-family on 04/26/16 05:46pm

Quote:

camp-n-family wrote:

I've got 55k kms on my stock tires so far, around 6k of that towing. They are evenly worn with lots of tread left. I keep them aired to 80psi all the time. I only have the 5.7 though.


So why are you over inflating you tires. My 15 3500 Laramie diesel 4x4 only calls for 60 in front tires at full rated load. What does your door jam sticker say? With the lighter rear axle rating I doubt it calls for 80 lbs.

Over inflation decreases traction, decreases braking and leads to impact damage.

Chris


You're right, just checked the door sticker. Didn't realize that the front and rears were different. They were all 80 when I got it and my dealer always airs them to 80. I tried lowering them all once to improve the ride but the TPMS would set off at anything less than 65psi so I put them back to 80. Haven't noticed any negative effects other than the rougher ride. Going to drop just the fronts back to 60psi and see what happens.

* This post was edited 04/26/16 06:02pm by camp-n-family *

Posted By: Hemi Power on 04/26/16 08:27pm

I have an 08 2500 MegaCab with the 5.7. I changed the original BFGoodrich AT's at about 95000kms or 55k miles. Had no rounding at all, just no bite left in the snow. I kept the fronts at 60psi, rears at 70 when towing my fifth and about 45psi when empty (As per the door sticker). Have a set of Nitta Dura Grapplers on now with about 15k miles, still look new. I have yet to take it in for an alignment

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Posted By: bighatnohorse on 04/26/16 09:07pm

Both the camber and tow-in are probably off and will eat the outer edges off pretty quickly.
Tow-in is like pigeon toes - front tires pointed toward each other too much.
Here's an example of camber:
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Posted By: dahkota on 04/27/16 07:05am

We had Goodyear Duratracs on our F250 diesel (6.4). They lasted at least 50K miles (we sold it at 98K miles and that was our second set of tires, put on at around 48K miles). We towed 70 percent of those miles and the tires were in excellent shape when we sold it. When we purchased, we got the lifetime free rotation and rotated at every 3,000 miles or so.

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Posted By: ACZL on 04/27/16 08:44am

Rotate every 5,000 miles and alignment. Bighatnohorse is spot on w/ caster/camber. But if your having wear issues, then you have a problem. A semi at my workplace has outside edge of rt steer tire darn near down to wearbars. Rest of tire looks okay as does the left tire. Let go of steering wheel at hiway speed and it's what I call "instant death" as truck IMMEDIATELY swerves to the right. Not my assigned truck, but have driven it before, wrote up as well before, yet nothing done. Other driver's don't even bother to write up as they don't write anything up anyways or have a clue--just get in and go.

Bought our DD a '11 Chevy Cruze in summer of '13 w/ about 23k miles and all 4 tires were down to wearbars. Dealer was going to sell it to her that way! Told dealer "NO Stinkin' way am I buying it w/ those tires". I wanted them to switch them w/ ones from her car that died, but they wouldn't due to different size (they could've, but claimed this reason and that etc). Then dealer offered to replace just 2 tires. Again told them no way, "All 4 or no deal". They "found" another car w/ 9k miles on tires and put them on. Now the funny part is, my local tire gurus were able to use the snow tires from dead car on the Cruze despite diff size. Really think dealer knew that the summer tires on dead car were quite beefy and able to make a buck off them. So, tires get switch from season to season, and now she need new summers. Going w/ Continentals. As far as I know her alignment is good and no unusual wear.

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