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Posted By: bghouse
on 07/11/17 09:29am
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Need some help from anyone with the Cruise America 23A. I forgot to take a picture of the sticker on the drivers door and being about 4 hours drive away and across the border I can't pop back over easily :-) I'm trying to find the Unladen Vehicle Weight (UVW) for the 23A so that I can calculate my cargo carrying capacity. In another forum the mentioned that this is supposed to be printed on the sticker on the door. Since all the CA units are essentially the same, this should get me close. Tried emailing the sales department (my phone is losing signal again) but not sure when I'll hear back. So thought I'd check here :-) |
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Posted By: Mocoondo
on 07/11/17 09:52am
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bghouse wrote: Need some help from anyone with the Cruise America 23A. I forgot to take a picture of the sticker on the drivers door and being about 4 hours drive away and across the border I can't pop back over easily :-) I'm trying to find the Unladen Vehicle Weight (UVW) for the 23A so that I can calculate my cargo carrying capacity. In another forum the mentioned that this is supposed to be printed on the sticker on the door. Since all the CA units are essentially the same, this should get me close. Unladen, or as we call it in the USA "curb weight" is found by weighing the vehicle. Any other number would be irrelevant as the vehicle ages. New roof, removal/change of equipment, etc. would change the curb weight over the life of the unit. When you subtract your actual curb weight from GVWR, you will have your payload.
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Posted By: IAMICHABOD
on 07/11/17 11:33am
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While I may not be of help, there are a few others on the thread that have a 23A,maybe PM them for the info. Mike Breeze Jbrowland Clabe I have found the other members very helpful. Good Luck 2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC Former El Monte RV Rental Retired Teamster Local 692 Buying A Rental Class C
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Posted By: bghouse
on 07/11/17 06:31pm
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The Thor manual states: "The Thor Motor Coach Motor Home WEIGHT SPECIFICATIONS yellow label concisely states the occupant and cargo carrying capacity of your motor home ( per the requirements of 49 CFR part 571.120 as issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration - NHTSA). The yellow MOTOR HOME OCCUPANT AND CARGO CARRYING CAPACITY weight label is affixed to the interior side of the forward-most door of your motor home on the passenger side This label indicated how much weight you can safely carry within the vehicle and is affixed to the entrance door, directly below the window screen for Class A units and on the front door jamb for Class C units. Your motor home includes a "Weight Information Label." This label provides specific weight information for your motor home as a guideline so that you can determine the load carrying capabilities.The total weight of passengers, cargo, trailer tongue weight, and water should neverexceed the value shown on the label." I heard back from the sales department at Cruise America, and they got the information from the yellow sticker that stated this: MOTOR HOME OCCUPANT AND CARGO CARRYING CAPACITY VIN# [removed] THE COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED: 1354 kg or 2986 lbs. Safety belt equipped seating capacity: 7 Caution: A full load of water equals 176 kg or 382 lbs. of cargo @ 1kg/L (8.3 lb./gal) and the tongue weight of a towed trailer counts as cargo (Serial # [removed]) I'm not denying that weighing the vehicle will be needed - it definitely will be. But this information along my other weights allows me to do some pre-planning in my spreadsheets while I'm thinking about all the things I WANT to take. I don't have a "home base" - so I really don't want to think I'm gonna take a ton of stuff, get out on the road, weight myself and go "****, now what". I'm much more a plan ahead kind of gal :-) |
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Posted By: Mocoondo
on 07/11/17 07:19pm
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bghouse wrote: The Thor manual states: "The Thor Motor Coach Motor Home WEIGHT SPECIFICATIONS yellow label concisely states the occupant and cargo carrying capacity of your motor home ( per the requirements of 49 CFR part 571.120 as issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration - NHTSA). The yellow MOTOR HOME OCCUPANT AND CARGO CARRYING CAPACITY weight label is affixed to the interior side of the forward-most door of your motor home on the passenger side This label indicated how much weight you can safely carry within the vehicle and is affixed to the entrance door, directly below the window screen for Class A units and on the front door jamb for Class C units. Your motor home includes a "Weight Information Label." This label provides specific weight information for your motor home as a guideline so that you can determine the load carrying capabilities.The total weight of passengers, cargo, trailer tongue weight, and water should neverexceed the value shown on the label." I heard back from the sales department at Cruise America, and they got the information from the yellow sticker that stated this: MOTOR HOME OCCUPANT AND CARGO CARRYING CAPACITY VIN# [removed] THE COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED: 1354 kg or 2986 lbs. Safety belt equipped seating capacity: 7 Caution: A full load of water equals 176 kg or 382 lbs. of cargo @ 1kg/L (8.3 lb./gal) and the tongue weight of a towed trailer counts as cargo (Serial # [removed]) I'm not denying that weighing the vehicle will be needed - it definitely will be. But this information along my other weights allows me to do some pre-planning in my spreadsheets while I'm thinking about all the things I WANT to take. I don't have a "home base" - so I really don't want to think I'm gonna take a ton of stuff, get out on the road, weight myself and go "****, now what". I'm much more a plan ahead kind of gal :-) With that information, 12,500-2,986=9,514. As such, you can assume a curb weight in the neighborhood of 9,500#, but I know for a fact these vehicles get fat as they age, so that will dip into your payload some. |
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Posted By: IAMICHABOD
on 07/12/17 08:24am
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Just in case CA doesn't give you one Here is the owners Manual for a Majestic. On page 17 there is the vehicle specifications that may be helpful,I was very surprised to see that the 23A GVWR is only 11500 lbs while most RVs that are built on a Ford Chassis are on a 14050 or larger GVWR chassis,this will cut greatly into your Cargo Carrying Capacity. |
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Posted By: Mocoondo
on 07/12/17 08:41am
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IAMICHABOD wrote: Just in case CA doesn't give you one Here is the owners Manual for a Majestic. On page 17 there is the vehicle specifications that may be helpful,I was very surprised to see that the 23A GVWR is only 11500 lbs while most RVs that are built on a Ford Chassis are on a 14050 or larger GVWR chassis,this will cut greatly into your Cargo Carrying Capacity. You have to check the specific vehicle. Chassis changes occur every year and the changes end up appearing in a mid-year manufacturing run. The only way to know GVWR for certain is to check the placard on the door. Many 23A units are greater than 11.5K. |
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Posted By: bghouse
on 07/12/17 09:07am
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Thanks everyone! I think I just found justification to lose a few pounds to carry an instant pot and blender - lol
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Posted By: IAMICHABOD
on 07/12/17 10:20am
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Mocoondo wrote: You have to check the specific vehicle. Chassis changes occur every year and the changes end up appearing in a mid-year manufacturing run. The only way to know GVWR for certain is to check the placard on the door. Many 23A units are greater than 11.5K. As a Cruise America Dealer you should be able to check the placard on one at your lot and give an exact answer to bghouse if she knows the year model she is looking to purchase. |
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Posted By: Mocoondo
on 07/12/17 10:24am
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IAMICHABOD wrote: Mocoondo wrote: You have to check the specific vehicle. Chassis changes occur every year and the changes end up appearing in a mid-year manufacturing run. The only way to know GVWR for certain is to check the placard on the door. Many 23A units are greater than 11.5K. As a Cruise America Dealer you should be able to check the placard on one at your lot and give an exact answer to bghouse if she knows the year model she is looking to purchase. If for sale, that model year is likely already out of the fleet. Also, as stated, there are variations among model years. |
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