69 Avion wrote:
Here are some pictures of the under bed battery box mount that is similar to ones I built years ago. This places the battery box under the bed and between the frame and the body. This one is on the right side, away from the fuel filler.
Here are some pictures of the under bed battery box mount that is similar to ones I built years ago. This places the battery box under the bed and between the frame and the body. This one is on the right side, away from the fuel filler.
I have been considering using the space where the spare tire went. Now that I am on 225/70R19.5 tires, a spare will not fit. I figured a bank of 4-T105s would do quite nicely.
Thanx for the idea on how to connect to the frame.
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Photog101 wrote:
I have been considering using the space where the spare tire went. Now that I am on 225/70R19.5 tires, a spare will not fit. I figured a bank of 4-T105s would do quite nicely.
Thanx for the idea on how to connect to the frame.
69 Avion wrote:
Here are some pictures of the under bed battery box mount that is similar to ones I built years ago. This places the battery box under the bed and between the frame and the body. This one is on the right side, away from the fuel filler.
Here are some pictures of the under bed battery box mount that is similar to ones I built years ago. This places the battery box under the bed and between the frame and the body. This one is on the right side, away from the fuel filler.
I have been considering using the space where the spare tire went. Now that I am on 225/70R19.5 tires, a spare will not fit. I figured a bank of 4-T105s would do quite nicely.
Thanx for the idea on how to connect to the frame.
If I were going to put batteries where the spare tire went, I would build an angle iron rack for all of them with a center eyelet and I would use the spare tire winch to lift the rack in place. I would have a safety pin on each side to secure the rack. It would make it easy to service the batteries.
By the way, where do you put your larger spare?
I bought a Ford Super Duty spare tire winch off of a wreck and installed it on the tongue of my trailer to winch the spare tire under the tongue.
You can see the cable hanging down in this picture.
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The receiver tube to the back of the winch is the mount for the slide out Camp Chef 3 burner grill. I can't wait to use it.
Good luck on your battery mount.
I have been trying to move the weight as far forward as I can to keep things balanced out.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper
67avion wrote:
Beautiful work!
Beautiful work!
Thanks, how is your camper coming along?
I am not to sure that I would use the cable since I am planning on 4 batteries. That would be 300 battery weight plus the bracketry. I was thinking about a crossbeam support on the bottom and using a transmission jack to get them our, seeing that they would not need to be changed all that often. as for servicing, I would use a "Flow-Rite remote filler. I would run a couple of extra cables so that I could hook up my load tester, segregated and combined.
The DW just told me, today, that we are taking a break from any upgrades until later this winter. Taxes and insurance are going to bury us in the next three months. Oh well, more time on the drawing board.
67avion wrote:
...On the other hand I'm picking up a Suzuki Samurai toad this week-end...
...On the other hand I'm picking up a Suzuki Samurai toad this week-end...
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'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2
Photog101 wrote:
I don't carry a spare. I call a tire company and have them bring one, like I did on my MoHo. On really long trips, I do carry a spare rim, because they are not easy to get a hold of. If it is a short trip of a day or less, I leave the rim at home. I guess if I really needed it, I could have someone bring it, or rent a car and go fetch it.
I am not to sure that I would use the cable since I am planning on 4 batteries. That would be 300 battery weight plus the bracketry. I was thinking about a crossbeam support on the bottom and using a transmission jack to get them our, seeing that they would not need to be changed all that often. as for servicing, I would use a "Flow-Rite remote filler. I would run a couple of extra cables so that I could hook up my load tester, segregated and combined.
The DW just told me, today, that we are taking a break from any upgrades until later this winter. Taxes and insurance are going to bury us in the next three months. Oh well, more time on the drawing board.
I don't carry a spare. I call a tire company and have them bring one, like I did on my MoHo. On really long trips, I do carry a spare rim, because they are not easy to get a hold of. If it is a short trip of a day or less, I leave the rim at home. I guess if I really needed it, I could have someone bring it, or rent a car and go fetch it.
I am not to sure that I would use the cable since I am planning on 4 batteries. That would be 300 battery weight plus the bracketry. I was thinking about a crossbeam support on the bottom and using a transmission jack to get them our, seeing that they would not need to be changed all that often. as for servicing, I would use a "Flow-Rite remote filler. I would run a couple of extra cables so that I could hook up my load tester, segregated and combined.
The DW just told me, today, that we are taking a break from any upgrades until later this winter. Taxes and insurance are going to bury us in the next three months. Oh well, more time on the drawing board.
You have a point with the weight of those batteries. If you wanted it self contained, Harbor Freight sells very inexpensive, lightweight, electric winches that would easily pull up 300#.
ticki2 wrote:
Final results at CAT scales
Truck , 02 GMC D/A ,GVWR 12000# , cab/chassis ,DRW , aluminum flatbed with dump hoist and subframe , 2 underbed boxes with some tools and fluids, 50gals diesel , 300# of passengers
weight = 8280#
Camper , 68 Avion C-11 , 20gal water tank full , 2 7gal water tanks full , frig full , 40# propane full , closets full , sides full of stuff ( chairs , 2000 Honda , jacks and extensions , all kinds of other STUFF ).
weight , truck and camper and stuff , ready to rock and roll=11620#.
So camper and stuff = 3340# ready to camp
ticki2 wrote:
Garry , I have weighed mine several times at the local Sand & Gravel but the results of the empty truck have varied each time , so I am questioning it's accuracy . It came out to 3000# wet and ready to go for the camper the last time . Last week I had the truck weighed at a CAT scale and will have it weighed again with camper in 2 weeks . I will report back. Advertised dry weight for C-10 is 1850# and for C-11 is 2150# .
garryk6 wrote:
Has anyone else weighed their completed Avion TC to see how much their repairs and mods have affected the weight?
Maoist of the structural changes (ie floor and tub) were done when I bought my C10. But my wet, ready to camp weight is around 2500 to 2600 lbs. It seams heavy for a C10, but it is heavy duty now, and survived the Denali Highway, so I'm not complaining,just curious after 40+ years of changes, how light or heavy are the other Avions?
Thanks,
Garry in Kodiak
Has anyone else weighed their completed Avion TC to see how much their repairs and mods have affected the weight?
Maoist of the structural changes (ie floor and tub) were done when I bought my C10. But my wet, ready to camp weight is around 2500 to 2600 lbs. It seams heavy for a C10, but it is heavy duty now, and survived the Denali Highway, so I'm not complaining,just curious after 40+ years of changes, how light or heavy are the other Avions?
Thanks,
Garry in Kodiak
Garry , I have weighed mine several times at the local Sand & Gravel but the results of the empty truck have varied each time , so I am questioning it's accuracy . It came out to 3000# wet and ready to go for the camper the last time . Last week I had the truck weighed at a CAT scale and will have it weighed again with camper in 2 weeks . I will report back. Advertised dry weight for C-10 is 1850# and for C-11 is 2150# .
Final results at CAT scales
Truck , 02 GMC D/A ,GVWR 12000# , cab/chassis ,DRW , aluminum flatbed with dump hoist and subframe , 2 underbed boxes with some tools and fluids, 50gals diesel , 300# of passengers
weight = 8280#
Camper , 68 Avion C-11 , 20gal water tank full , 2 7gal water tanks full , frig full , 40# propane full , closets full , sides full of stuff ( chairs , 2000 Honda , jacks and extensions , all kinds of other STUFF ).
weight , truck and camper and stuff , ready to rock and roll=11620#.
So camper and stuff = 3340# ready to camp
Please share some pics of the bathroom when it's done as I have to do a total repair/replace in my C11 and curious on your results. So far your work has been fantastic and I've learned a LOT from this posting. Keep up the good work. My project starts next spring as right now I'm reworking a 13 foot Boston Whaler.
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For those that are doing a rebuild, we spent a lot of time talking to the folks at Thetford, including one of the top folks in the parts department that has been there a long time. They don't have any parts for these old toilets. The other issue is that this toilet is a couple inches shorter than the low profile, new toilets. I decided to redo the bathroom to take a modern toilet. Avion had 3-1/2" of wood under that closet flange and fiberglass cover to make up for this very short toilet. I made the holding tank higher by 1" and took out all but one 3/4" board to make the modern low profile toilet the proper height. I went with the cheaper, and lighter plastic unit, with the intention of replacing it every 10 or 15 years.
* This post was edited 09/08/12 10:02am by 69 Avion *