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Posted By: ticki2 on 03/05/12 03:42am

Avion C-11

Something to check on the window leak , I had a similar problem .

First is the rubber seal at the top of the movable lower window . Over time they tend to shrink and no longer cover the very ends of the window . I put new seals on and made sure they went past the end of the frame . The water was getting in at the upper corners of the movable windows . I found replacement rubber seals at Vintage Trailer Supply that fit the groove of the window.

Second was the joints at the bottom of the frame ( next to the weep hole) . These joints need to be caulked or what water does get in follows the rib down to the bottom channel on the wing and eventually finds it's way out somewhere .


'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed


Posted By: 67avion on 03/05/12 09:13am

Great work. I am especially interested in the window repair. In the not so distant future I want to swap out the old windows...in the meantime I want my windows to be waterproof.






Posted By: garryk6 on 03/05/12 11:40am

The C-11's use the newer Plexiglass style windows. The C-10's used the old Jalousie/Louver style windows. They are similar, but not exactly the same.
An a side note, I saw this on Craigslist in WA state... One Owner!!! Nice!!!
Avion C-10

Garry

* This post was edited 03/05/12 01:19pm by garryk6 *


Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper



Posted By: Avion C-11 on 03/05/12 04:49pm

Steelhog wrote:

Not many folks have Clecos in their tool box! Are you sure you don'y have an A&P ticket and you are really planning to put wings on her?


If you mean A&P as in Avion and Patching then yes. But if you mean the other kind, I am an airplane guy but not an A&P. Just for fun!


Happy Camping!

Avioncamper.wordpress.com



Posted By: Avion C-11 on 03/05/12 04:52pm

garryk6 wrote:

What type of rivets and rivet tool are you using???

Curious minds need to know...

Thanks,

Garry


Garry,

I have used 3 types of rivets on this project so far. Standard aluminum pop rivets, Olympic rivets which work like a pop rivet but have a head that can be finished to look like a normal rivet and on these last patches I used buck (normal) rivets. Technically if you can get to both sides of the rivet you should do bucked rivets but since I the air compressor was unavailable for everything I have done so far I used Olympics in a few places.

The good thing about rivets is that they can be removed without damaging anything. So, I can go back and replace the Olympics ones now.

BTW, Vintage Trailer Supply sells all the stuff you need to do this.


Posted By: Avion C-11 on 03/05/12 04:59pm

ticki2 wrote:

Avion C-11

Something to check on the window leak , I had a similar problem .

First is the rubber seal at the top of the movable lower window . Over time they tend to shrink and no longer cover the very ends of the window . I put new seals on and made sure they went past the end of the frame . The water was getting in at the upper corners of the movable windows . I found replacement rubber seals at Vintage Trailer Supply that fit the groove of the window.

Second was the joints at the bottom of the frame ( next to the weep hole) . These joints need to be caulked or what water does get in follows the rib down to the bottom channel on the wing and eventually finds it's way out somewhere .


Ticki2, it sounds like you ha the same issue.

I found all the seals and gaskets for the entire window setup at Interstate RV and Metal Supply. They order them directly from Hehr.

They also had all the ones for the Jalousie I have in the back. I ordered them but it does not leak one bit.

So, my dilema is to fix the windows in place. That means the window glazing in the plexiglass windows will will have to stay in the frame and be caulked from the outside or, take the whole window structure out of the camper (i.e drill all the rivets) and totally disassemble the windows and replace all the seals and glazing. Thoughts??


Posted By: 69cayo on 03/05/12 04:59pm

Gary, Their olympic rivets, found here...............
http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Olympic_Rivets_p/vts-179.htm

You can use a regular pop rivet gun to pull them.
Once pulled you have a stem sticking out that gets clipped off with a pair of dykes then filed or shaved with a rivet shaver tool....
http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Olympic_Rivet_Shaver_p/vts-177.htm

Dennis


Posted By: 69cayo on 03/05/12 05:15pm

Avion C-11,
I removed all of my windows mainly to replace the glazing (alot of crazing) and replaced all the seals.

It's alot of work and getting the windows out is only half of it, getting 40 yr. old windows apart with frozen rusted screws was not fun.

If you decide to do it get yourself a can of Aerokroil to help with the frozen screws.

Were it not for me wanting to replace the glazing I would not do it again.


Dennis


Posted By: Avion C-11 on 03/05/12 05:24pm

Thanks Dennis! Did you put the windows back in with Olympic or Buck rivets. It looks very hard to buck those rivets behind the channels.


Posted By: ticki2 on 03/05/12 05:48pm

69 cayo

From your experience is it possible to replace the fixed upper plexiglass without removing the frame . One side of mine has discolored from the UV rays and has a pinkish tint .

Avion C-11
I have not removed any windows yet , trying hard to avoid . What I did do is cut back the rubber glazing on the outside with a razor , clean thoroughly with alcohol and caulked all around. So far so good .


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