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Topic: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Posted By: garryk6 on 12/03/11 08:28pm

Here are the spots that I got pics of that were icing problem areas.
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You can see some dark areas from the moisture wicking when the ice thawed from the door frame to the wood. Ice was mainly on the frame of the door.

Garry


Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper



Posted By: ticki2 on 12/04/11 07:10am

Those are the same locations that I'm getting condensation in cooler damp whether , 20's and 30's . I suspect it is the metal to metal conduction of the bottom U channel and the cushions blocking air circulation in that area . I have imagined the door freezing shut in sub-zero temps but it seems you didn't have that problem . My truck double duties as a plow truck winters so have not been able to camp in really cold whether yet but am preparing for that day by insulating potential trouble areas as I poke along making improvements. The condensations concerns me more now for it's potential for rotting the plywood wings . I was thinking of either foaming about 4" up to the cushion height or gluing some rigid insulation to that area. The same problem occurs around the mattress but not as bad .


'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed


Posted By: 67avion on 12/04/11 12:23pm

Avion C11,

Is it possible to repost the photos in a larger size, maybe 640, so that they are more detailed? I am really interested in your construction.






Posted By: Avion C-11 on 12/04/11 03:18pm

67avion wrote:

Avion C11,

Is it possible to repost the photos in a larger size, maybe 640, so that they are more detailed? I am really interested in your construction.


Yes sir! They have been resized per your request. If you'd like even higher quality pics you can go to my wordpress site and download them. http://avioncamper.wordpress.com/

And, here are the pics from this weekend's work:

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* This post was edited 12/04/11 03:25pm by Avion C-11 *


Happy Camping!

Avioncamper.wordpress.com



Posted By: 69cayo on 12/04/11 04:41pm

Gary, some of that could be caused by the uninsulated void where the wood from the wings and bed area fit into the curved al. peace along the exterior.
Might want to check the caulking in that area if for nothing else to stop air infiltration,when it warms up [emoticon].


Dennis

* This post was edited 12/04/11 04:51pm by 69cayo *


Posted By: garryk6 on 12/04/11 09:55pm

69cayo wrote:

Gary, some of that could be caused by the uninsulated void where the wood from the wings and bed area fit into the curved al. peace along the exterior.
Might want to check the caulking in that area if for nothing else to stop air infiltration,when it warms up [emoticon].
Dennis


Thanks Dennis,
I was wondering if that little curved area had any insulation in it or not. Do you think there is a way for me to just drill a few holes and use spray foam to fill those voids? Otherwise I was thinking uf using some blueboard , and gluing it to the walls in those areas, then using either 1/4" plywood or fabric to cover the blueboard... Thoughts or ideas????

Garry


Posted By: Avion C-11 on 12/05/11 06:57am

Hi Garry,

Mine had insulation in that corner from the factory but with the electrical, water and other stuff in that corner it was kind of thin. You could fill the void with foam from the outside like you are talking about. Just make sure to use the foam for windows and not the more normal kind of spray foam.

I found out that if you use the normal insulation foam (fills one inch gaps) that it will bend aluminum and pop rivets out if you trap it in a right space. The other type of foam in a can stuff is for windows and says that it will not bow or bend the window frame. That stuff would be what I'd use to do what you're talking about.

If you see one of my pics where I am insulating the left wall below the window, you'll see two different color foams. The yellower stuff is the kind that does not bend or break things. I use the harder faster expanding kind in the open areas of the wall.

* This post was edited 12/05/11 02:43pm by Avion C-11 *


Posted By: 67avion on 12/05/11 09:49am

Avion C 11

I went to your wordpress site and I now can see your construction. It looks great. I wasn't clear that you were doing a near total tear out repair.

Two things: how did you reform the damaged aluminum panels on the top rear of the camper? And did you shellac or protect the new wood you were placing in the rear?


Posted By: Avion C-11 on 12/05/11 12:46pm

67avion wrote:

Avion C 11

I went to your wordpress site and I now can see your construction. It looks great. I wasn't clear that you were doing a near total tear out repair.

Two things: how did you reform the damaged aluminum panels on the top rear of the camper? And did you shellac or protect the new wood you were placing in the rear?


Well it started as a "we'll just fix the wood in the wings" and quickly went to an "awe hell, might as well fix all that stuff while we're in here" type of project.

The wood in the wings is a sandwitch of: fiberglass, 1/2" marine ply, epoxy adhesive, 3/4" marine ply and another layer of glass. I wanted it very strong and waterproof.

The floor is two layers of 3/4" marine ply epoxied together and sealed on the bottom with epoxy too. On the top it will have a finished hardwood floor.

The dents were just popped out and very gently pinged on with a hammer, wood and dolly to work the smaller dings and creases. It's not perfect yet but it's getting there.


Posted By: ticki2 on 12/05/11 01:05pm

Avion C-11
Nice job on the dents . Curious as to why you chose to rebuild the floor and wings with solid plywood instead of the original configuration of ply-foam-ply ?


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