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Topic: Avion truck campers - Hundreds of photos

Posted By: D1trout on 05/23/14 01:16pm

Michael, I have considered painting the entire inside of the shell with one of the heavy duty elastomeric roof coatings on the market. I don't have a brand name yet - still a ways to go before I'm at that point. Or perhaps a mobile home roof sealer. Chuck Cayo suggested using that for resealing the outside on top of the camper where the paint-on section is.

How are you planning to deal with the refoaming/reinsulating of the inside of the shell?My intention at the moment is to use one of the bulk foam closed cell spray foam kits available online. Your thoughts?

Dick


Posted By: Dodgeavion on 05/23/14 01:46pm

Seams and rivets seems reasonable. Entire inside shell would be very heavy.


Posted By: Michael 111 on 05/23/14 01:47pm

D1trout wrote:

Michael, I have considered painting the entire inside of the shell with one of the heavy duty elastomeric roof coatings on the market. I don't have a brand name yet - still a ways to go before I'm at that point. Or perhaps a mobile home roof sealer. Chuck Cayo suggested using that for resealing the outside on top of the camper where the paint-on section is.

How are you planning to deal with the refoaming/reinsulating of the inside of the shell?My intention at the moment is to use one of the bulk foam closed cell spray foam kits available online. Your thoughts?

Dick


That's what i am thinking as well....for the insulation but with reservations. I am working professionally with urethane foams for quite a while and know that they can outgas for a long time.
if you are in a ventilated area such as a house it probably causes no problems but in a small confined space that is well sealed??? .......there is my dilemma looking for the best R Value but not poisoning myself and others.
And not forgetting the tight budget.. HA

There is a foam that i would consider.
Tap Plastics X30 once mixed it expands 30 times the liquid volume.
But you would have to build a containment to get it to conform to the shape and foam every segment separately since it comes as a 2 part kit.



I like the idea of painting the entire inside ......

Another thought or plus for a " Loose " insulation is that you can take it out more easily and see what is happening behind ..

Just thoughts at this point

BTW. I took the back end caps out and they are definitely not going in as a decorative finish but i like your idea of having them as a a support for the aluminum fan shape. I probably will give them a fiberglass treatment and use them that way.

Michael


Posted By: 69cayo on 05/23/14 03:52pm

Please keep in mind when considering sealants and coatings to the interior shell,
how hard it will be to replace a panel if you have "glued" the shell together.
Just sayin......

Dennis


Posted By: cajunavion on 05/23/14 04:00pm

Howdy!
Thanks for the bath help. I threw in the towel
and ordered new Dometic 311 toilet. I am
still concerned if it will fit the original shroud.
It requires 10.5 in and from center of flange to
back of shroud is 10 in. We will see.
New question, what is the insulation beneath
the shower pan for? The reason I ask is that
in order to run my plumbing under it I replaced
the wood with quarter inch aluminum plate and
then only have room for one and a quarter pipe.
Do I need anything under there?


Posted By: Dodgeavion on 05/23/14 04:12pm

The only time I have seen a panel replaced is one of the end Fan panels. Anytime one of the other panels has been damaged thatI have seen, they put the new one over the top of the old one.

On mine for the tub I plan to use styrofoam sheets slightly undersized for the opening then use closed cell spray foam around the edges to seal them in place. For the shell closed cell spray foam.


Posted By: 69 Avion on 05/23/14 07:48pm

cajunavion wrote:

Howdy!
Thanks for the bath help. I threw in the towel
and ordered new Dometic 311 toilet. I am
still concerned if it will fit the original shroud.
It requires 10.5 in and from center of flange to
back of shroud is 10 in. We will see.
New question, what is the insulation beneath
the shower pan for? The reason I ask is that
in order to run my plumbing under it I replaced
the wood with quarter inch aluminum plate and
then only have room for one and a quarter pipe.
Do I need anything under there?

My shower pan has a wood frame underneath it which was filled with insulation. It was to add rigidity to the shower pan. I had that part reinforced with fiberglass so that mine doesn't flex anymore. It didn't add much weight to the pan. The only issue with my new toilet is that the lowest modern toilet was significantly higher than my original toilet. I pulled a few blocks of wood out of the area under the toilet and above the black water tank which allowed the new toilet to fit at the same finished height.


Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper


Posted By: 67avion on 05/23/14 08:35pm

I'm not sure I can add a great deal to this particular discussion. We're boondocking on a massive canyon in southern Utah. On our way to Monument Valley - went through Fruita and Capitol Reefs National Monument last night and this morning. Downright emotionally wrung out by the landscape.

But to one of the tasks at hand: if you paint the interior please take a look at Zolatone. It was the OEM paint. It is used mainly for car trunks and truck beds. It is extremely hard as a surface. But it may be difficult for painters. My painter had to do it three times because of blockage in the spray unit.

I used a white surface that I believe was used for Airstream and Avion.






Posted By: Desertboy on 05/23/14 08:51pm

Wrung out by the Landscape 67Avion? Where's our pictures? lol, joking man. Is it some wild country?


1969 AVION
3/4 12 VALVE

Freightliner/24' Flatbed 50,000 miles/ Titan 4000 receiver Hitch, no Mods needed.


Posted By: D1trout on 05/24/14 07:57am

67, Annie and I were in Fruita last Thursday, the 15th, enroute to California. I looked with great interest on the Capitol Reef/Burr Trail dirt road that goes south along the Waterpocket Fold to Bullfrog Bay on Lake Powell and resolved that that it would be our first back road trip when our Avion is completed! It is the quintessential canyon country landscape and if you can fit it into your route, I urge you to consider the detour...

Happy trails!
Dick


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