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As i am taking out the old insulation , all kinds of surprises are popping up, burned out wires, rivets that are not set correctly.....
I think that most of you have experienced this.
So, overall i am happy that i decided to take everything out to the bare skin.
My overall plan is to totally modernize the interior on a budget...HA
Recycle,up-cycle, re-purpose, you get the idea
Solar and wind to charge the batteries,off grid camping, better outside lighting
Slide out A/C where the fridge used to be.
I am playing with the idea of having light up walls as the main general lighting needs. The overall "Look" on the inside will be some stained wood with aluminum accents, the curved back walls and the compound curves in the end caps will be Aluminum ,and then two ( left and Right) light up walls above the windows and extending into the sleeping area . I am also toying with the idea of building a removable kitchen that could come out of the camper once on site ......
I think that my box is overall in decent shape and can be reinforced and saved , have to replace the passenger side wing.
Check out this picture it seems like there are multiple layers of Aluminum for the outside skin and cut in unusual shapes.
Anyone can shed some light on this?
![[image]](http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/skindeepfx/media/IMG_20140510_122523_zps3afbcfb0.jpg.html)
Is there anyone out there that would like the items that i took out
i have the shower/toilet inc tank
freshwater tank/ pump
original LP gas bottles
and an interior LP gas light
sink,
Also i have the original documentation that came with the purchase of this unit including a self-loading system, if anyone is interested i can PDF this.
More as i go along
Cheers
Michael
I sure would love to have those lp bottles but shipping might be a killer.
Dennis
Wesley Chambers
C-11 '69
What would you be asking for the tank/pump?
See y'all on the roads, or in the parks.
tonyj & Shirley
'66 AVION C-10
'86 F-250 6.9 DIESEL
KJ4OEQ 146.520MHz
CB Channel 7
Another epic Avion TC rebuild! Yes! Michael
just my two cents, but do not let your fixtures get
away from you. They are gold, especially to that
camper. Just look how many folks want them. Your
plans may not include them now, but believe you me
you WILL change them as you move forward and
even if you do a complete modern interior you may
want an original accent or two!
The all aluminum Avion TC what a dream!
So now I take it we are Avionistas?
D1trout wrote:
Hello, fellow Avionistas, I believe I have reached the point where the aluminum frame for my C11 is ready to be attached to the shell! I thought you might find a few pictures interesting. So here goes...
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/5d629d0b-12ad-4371-9161-73b1999de2ce_zps9576b7a9.jpg)
This is the finished frame. The cabover section is clamped to the bulkhead temporarily until everything has been fitted, then it will be welded. Note how the rear frame area has been reinforced where the door and fold-up steps will attach.
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1949_zps6612e7fd.jpg)
Here's another perspective of the frame. There will be no wood in this camper, except some veneer on cabinet faces and perhaps bulkheads.
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1960_zpsf1da4c09.jpg)
The cabover bed frame fits snugly into the curved lower edge of the shell. It will be insulated with 1.5" foam. The bottom skin will be riveted to the frame thru 1/8" aluminum strips on the outside to cover the corroded rivet holes and strengthen the skin to frame connection
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1957_zpsc14b700b.jpg)
The window opening is very much larger than the original was. This will allow conversation between the two German Shepherds who ride in back and their mom, who rides in front...
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/5e12096e05cc306910e5c7ed798c8981_zps61a86a86.jpg)
I daresay we have all had issues with the attachments of the jack plates to the camper. I had Gary fabricate 4 new plates from 1/4" aluminum. These were then bolted to reinforced sections of the frame using carriage bolts. I am using 4 jacks to distribute the weight evenly around the rig. 3 jacks is really marginal for a camper that will be at least 3000 pounds when loaded.
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1999_zps93a2ff3d.jpg)
Very solidly bolted to the frame with 1/2" bolts.
![[image]](http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p697/D1trout/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1998_zps41789a2d.jpg)
This bolt pattern will allow the jacks to be mounted to the plates horizontally for traveling and vertically for loading and unloading. This solves the problem of where to stow the jacks when traveling. I don't know how often or if I will ever want to unload the camper from the truck when traveling, but I have the option.
That's it for now. The most challenging aspect so far has been getting the dimensions exact enough that everything fits well. The shell flexes and the original wood frame was sufficently rotted and repaired to require some creative calculating when drawing pattens for Gary, the master welder.
Let the riveting begin!!
Onward!
Dick
Hello, fellow Avionistas, I believe I have reached the point where the aluminum frame for my C11 is ready to be attached to the shell! I thought you might find a few pictures interesting. So here goes...
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/5d629d0b-12ad-4371-9161-73b1999de2ce_zps9576b7a9.jpg.html)
This is the finished frame. The cabover section is clamped to the bulkhead temporarily until everything has been fitted, then it will be welded. Note how the rear frame area has been reinforced where the door and fold-up steps will attach.
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1949_zps6612e7fd.jpg.html)
Here's another perspective of the frame. There will be no wood in this camper, except some veneer on cabinet faces and perhaps bulkheads.
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1960_zpsf1da4c09.jpg.html)
The cabover bed frame fits snugly into the curved lower edge of the shell. It will be insulated with 1.5" foam. The bottom skin will be riveted to the frame thru 1/8" aluminum strips on the outside to cover the corroded rivet holes and strengthen the skin to frame connection
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1957_zpsc14b700b.jpg.html)
The window opening is very much larger than the original was. This will allow conversation between the two German Shepherds who ride in back and their mom, who rides in front...
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/5e12096e05cc306910e5c7ed798c8981_zps61a86a86.jpg.html)
I daresay we have all had issues with the attachments of the jack plates to the camper. I had Gary fabricate 4 new plates from 1/4" aluminum. These were then bolted to reinforced sections of the frame using carriage bolts. I am using 4 jacks to distribute the weight evenly around the rig. 3 jacks is really marginal for a camper that will be at least 3000 pounds when loaded.
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1999_zps93a2ff3d.jpg.html)
Very solidly bolted to the frame with 1/2" bolts.
![[image]](http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/D1trout/media/Final%20frame%20configuration%20May%2014/IMG_1998_zps41789a2d.jpg.html)
This bolt pattern will allow the jacks to be mounted to the plates horizontally for traveling and vertically for loading and unloading. This solves the problem of where to stow the jacks when traveling. I don't know how often or if I will ever want to unload the camper from the truck when traveling, but I have the option.
That's it for now. The most challenging aspect so far has been getting the dimensions exact enough that everything fits well. The shell flexes and the original wood frame was sufficently rotted and repaired to require some creative calculating when drawing pattens for Gary, the master welder.
Let the riveting begin!!
Onward!
Dick
Dick,
I am so jealous of your aluminum framing!!! Not now, but some day, I will find another C-10 and do it up with all aluminum, while I still am using my existing C-10. THen I can do all the ideas and plans that I didn't do on this one on the next one. Key for me is usability. I have that now, while not always the prettiest, it is functional!
Keep up the good work, and don't get discouraged!!! These Camper are worth the blood sweat and tears that we pour into them!!! I have much of my own "blood" sweat and tears in mine. (read the early pages of my incident with a tablesaw....)
Garry in Alaska
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
tonyj54 wrote:
"Funny you bring up a Submarine story, since I retired from the USN Submarine service in 2007. 23 years of keeping old boats going then taking them to the shipyards to decommission them. There was only one submarine that was in service that I had served on still in commission when I retired, and it was the one I retired from. It is still going, but it is almost 20 years old."
What boats, Garry? I was FTB LPO on SSBN 633-Gold from 1/80 to 8/82. Prior to that, Shirley and I, along with our then one-year-old daughter lived on Guam from 8/77 - 11/79 (we were flying out the day Iranian students overran US Embassy in Tehran), while I was attached to USS Proteus (AS-19) and USS Hunley (AS-31), working on SSBN 598- and SSBN 608-class boats, crewed out of Pearl Harbor.
"Funny you bring up a Submarine story, since I retired from the USN Submarine service in 2007. 23 years of keeping old boats going then taking them to the shipyards to decommission them. There was only one submarine that was in service that I had served on still in commission when I retired, and it was the one I retired from. It is still going, but it is almost 20 years old."
What boats, Garry? I was FTB LPO on SSBN 633-Gold from 1/80 to 8/82. Prior to that, Shirley and I, along with our then one-year-old daughter lived on Guam from 8/77 - 11/79 (we were flying out the day Iranian students overran US Embassy in Tehran), while I was attached to USS Proteus (AS-19) and USS Hunley (AS-31), working on SSBN 598- and SSBN 608-class boats, crewed out of Pearl Harbor.
Hey Tonyj,
I started on the USS Plunger SSN-595 in 1986, which i tied up to the Proteus in Chinhea Korea in 1987 to do a refit. I spent two years in Holy Lock Scotland on the USS Simon Lake (AS-33) that had replaced the Hunley from 1990-1992. Then spent 3 years in Idaho teaching at the nuclear power school, then returned to the fleet on the USS Pogy (SSN-647) 1995-1999 then to the USS Salt Lake City (SSN-716) 1999-2001, SubDevRon-5 2001-2003, USS Parche (SSN-683) 2003-2005 and then USS Pennsylvania (SSBN-735 Blue) 2005-2007. Started out as MMFN nuke, and retired as Engineering Department Master Chief (MMCM/SS) at 23 years. It was fun, but I am so glad to be out now!
Garry in Kodiak, Alaska
I am trying to tie all my gray water (2 sinks and
shower) up together under the shower pan and go out
one hole through the floor. All I seem to
get away with is 1.25 pipe. Do yall
think this will drain?