ticki2 wrote:
Have you read or experimented to determine the COG ? I have been loking for that info . I actually called Cayo one time but they said they didn't know .
69 Avion wrote:
The Avion C-11 also has a CG slightly (1"-2"?)behind the rear axle, but only when it is empty. If you put even a few gallons in the water tank it balances fine. If the water tank is full it has a great balance.
The Avion C-11 also has a CG slightly (1"-2"?)behind the rear axle, but only when it is empty. If you put even a few gallons in the water tank it balances fine. If the water tank is full it has a great balance.
Have you read or experimented to determine the COG ? I have been loking for that info . I actually called Cayo one time but they said they didn't know .
I had a camper (RV) magazine from 1970 that had the Avion C-11 on it and they had done the calcs. The CG, empty was just behind the axle, the CG wet was in front of the axle. The camper in the article was technically the Cayo, but it had the same layout as my 1969 C-11.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper
Over the holidays I met with Whazoo (Dave) and his wife Lynn. We talked about gathering at the Overland Expo, May 17-19, Flagstaff, Arizona. Subsequently I was in touch with Steve (sabconsulting) in England, and he is definitely going to be there as well. Then Steve said that Silversand was going to be in the region and might attend. So, I have also made plans (if humanly possible) to get out to Flagstaff for the meet up.
The Expo is real expensive so Whazoo and I talked about getting reservations at a nearby campground and attending on a day pass. The idea, I suppose, is that we'll circle the TCs somewhere for a Whazoofest.
That's all I know at this point, but I wanted to pass it along.
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Photog101 wrote:
garryk6, that is a good lookin Avion.
garryk6, that is a good lookin Avion.
Thanks! It is still a work in progress.
This is how it looked when I bought it..
![[image]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/garryk6/66Avionemptystorage.jpg)
![[image]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/garryk6/66Avionlookingaft.jpg)
Here is a mid way through the project.
![[image]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/garryk6/1966%20Avion%20Camper%20remodel/DSC06672.jpg)
I don't have any pics of The current configuration But I'll try to get some soon. I have the new cushions in it, and since these pics, I now have a new 3 burner stove top, vent hood, and a microwave under the stove top.
As for COG, I need to figure it out. I did get actual weights, so I know that I am over original GVRW, but I am within axle and tire weights.
Need some good weather to get working on it again for spring!
Garry in Alaska
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
67avion wrote:
...The idea, I suppose, is that we'll circle the TCs somewhere for a Whazoofest...
...The idea, I suppose, is that we'll circle the TCs somewhere for a Whazoofest...
Whazoofest - love it
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Since Whazoo has the local knowledge I'll bow to his expertise re. the camping. Didn't know they charged a lot for camping at Expo. Guess if we want to look at a local campground it probably needs to be organised well in advance to ensure there is space for anyone who wants to join in.
Would love to see some Avions there
![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
. In general though it would be great to meet up with some of the regulars on the forum. We'll just be letting the side down a bit since we will have a class B that weekend (not quite practical to ship our TC across the Atlantic for a 2 week tour ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/eek.gif "eek")
).Maybe I'll start another thread about this shortly - I really need to get thinking about it and planning where we go (currently we just know we start and end at Denver with the apex so to speak being Expo).
Cheers,
Steve.
'07 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab diesel + '91 Shadow Cruiser - Sky Cruiser 1
'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2
67avion wrote:
...We talked about gathering at the Overland Expo, May 17-19, Flagstaff, Arizona. Subsequently I was in touch with Steve (sabconsulting) in England, and he is definitely going to be there as well...
The Expo is real expensive so Whazoo and I talked about getting reservations at a nearby campground and attending on a day pass. The idea, I suppose, is that we'll circle the TCs somewhere for a Whazoofest.
...We talked about gathering at the Overland Expo, May 17-19, Flagstaff, Arizona. Subsequently I was in touch with Steve (sabconsulting) in England, and he is definitely going to be there as well...
The Expo is real expensive so Whazoo and I talked about getting reservations at a nearby campground and attending on a day pass. The idea, I suppose, is that we'll circle the TCs somewhere for a Whazoofest.
I just checked the accommodation page of the Expo website. I know Expo are selling fancy packages that are really expensive and come with camping with hookup etc., but it also looks like they have basic camping which to be honest might be more the ticket for truck campers - here is what it says:
"Day pass attendees are welcome to camp in the basic camping area for $10 per night on an as-available basis (it’s a really large area, and we don’t expect to fill up).
The site is a wide, level grass field just north of and adjacent to the main exhibitor and training areas (map link).
There will be porta-johns around the site, and flush toilets and limited shower facilities are available in the adjacent RV park, along with water for filling up."
Steve.
67avion wrote:
...Sorry about the miscommunication...it was Whazoo who was drinking beer at lunch - not me.That was probably my mistake.
...Sorry about the miscommunication...it was Whazoo who was drinking beer at lunch - not me.That was probably my mistake.
Ah yes, that was your mistake - Whazoo had the beer, you didn't, so you weren't on the same communication wavelength (Whazoonication)
![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/doh.gif "doh")
. So when gathering at Expo, having circled the wagons (TCs) in what Whazoo referred to as 'Mongolian cluster camping', we'll have to ensure we have sufficient drink available to guarantee excellent communication. Hmmm, I can smell the barbecues now Last year at the giant overland show in Germany the camp ground was almost the best part, with everyone wandering around looking at each other's vehicles, talking about modification, discussing where they had been over a beer.
Steve.
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/Avion/CamperCoachmanSeptember1971.jpg)
This 1971/1972 Cayo unit has a different layout than mine. I thought it was the same, but it has only been 30 years since I read the article. LOL
According to the article it weighs 2,240# dry. It has side windows at the sleeping area (I can live without another potential place to leak) and a light where the hose and electical storage is. It also has a Thetford 18 gallon tank instead of our 12 gallon original tank. It still has a 30 gallon water tank and no gray water tank. I can honestly say that I like the Avion C-11 layout that mine has better. The reason is the weight is up front. This one has a closet up front and the dinette in the back. They say that the CG is behind the rear axle when it is dry, but they don't say how far behind. They do say that it handles better than any other camper of that size that they have tested. It is also called a 11-1/2' camper. The recommended pickup truck GVW is 8,000# for that camper. I'm sure they are assuming a gas, (only option back then) 2wd truck.