bigfootford
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dreamco wrote:
That's exactly what I tried to do...I was pushing down pretty hard on the little nipple protruding through the main throat and I still couldn't get it to move. I wasn't sure of how much pressure to apply.
Ummm....guess I would try pb blaster or wd40, let it soak....
Push it back in and then back out a bunch of times, spraying a bit as you do it and see if it will free up...
Would hate to see you damage the tube but that may be your only recourse. Or do what Wayne said.
You do not want to damage the tip that goes into the venturi area... You may not get it out....So pulling it is the thing to do after you have it sticking out from the jet end if possible.
What I saw with Wayne's (Reddog) was that it had corrosion from water on the tube...So that may be the same with yours...
Jim
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bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:
That's exactly what I tried to do...I was pushing down pretty hard on the little nipple protruding through the main throat and I still couldn't get it to move. I wasn't sure of how much pressure to apply.
Ummm....guess I would try pb blaster or wd40, let it soak....
Push it back in and then back out a bunch of times, spraying a bit as you do it and see if it will free up...
Would hate to see you damage the tube but that may be your only recourse. Or do what Wayne said.
You do not want to damage the tip that goes into the venturi area... You may not get it out....So pulling it is the thing to do after you have it sticking out from the jet end if possible.
What I saw with Wayne's (Reddog) was that it had corrosion from water on the tube...So that may be the same with yours...
Jim
I don't see any evidence of corrosion or water..I think the old fuel is just gummed up that bad. I wonder if a little bit of acetone would eat away the gunk and free it up? Could acetone be harmful to any other surrounding parts?
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dreamco wrote:bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:
That's exactly what I tried to do...I was pushing down pretty hard on the little nipple protruding through the main throat and I still couldn't get it to move. I wasn't sure of how much pressure to apply.
Ummm....guess I would try pb blaster or wd40, let it soak....
Push it back in and then back out a bunch of times, spraying a bit as you do it and see if it will free up...
Would hate to see you damage the tube but that may be your only recourse. Or do what Wayne said.
You do not want to damage the tip that goes into the venturi area... You may not get it out....So pulling it is the thing to do after you have it sticking out from the jet end if possible.
What I saw with Wayne's (Reddog) was that it had corrosion from water on the tube...So that may be the same with yours...
Jim
I don't see any evidence of corrosion or water..I think the old fuel is just gummed up that bad. I wonder if a little bit of acetone would eat away the gunk and free it up? Could acetone be harmful to any other surrounding parts?
You will not see the corrosion on the tube until you get it out.
The water will turn the brass tube gray...If the protruding end is gray that would be corrosion.
Keep the Acetone away from any of the plastic parts...
I would use WD or Pb blaster and be patient...Try to work the tube in and out.
Jim
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There is definitely no grey on either end of the tube that I can see...it appears brass color with no discoloration at all. The generator is only 2 years old with very minimal use. I'm really surprised that this tube is as seized as it is.
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dreamco wrote:There is definitely no grey on either end of the tube that I can see...it appears brass color with no discoloration at all. The generator is only 2 years old with very minimal use. I'm really surprised that this tube is as seized as it is.
Me too!
Can you push it back in and out despite being a small amount?
Jim
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bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:There is definitely no grey on either end of the tube that I can see...it appears brass color with no discoloration at all. The generator is only 2 years old with very minimal use. I'm really surprised that this tube is as seized as it is.
Me too!
Can you push it back in and out despite being a small amount?
Jim
No, the tube hasn't budged a millimeter
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bigfootford
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dreamco wrote:bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:There is definitely no grey on either end of the tube that I can see...it appears brass color with no discoloration at all. The generator is only 2 years old with very minimal use. I'm really surprised that this tube is as seized as it is.
Me too!
Can you push it back in and out despite being a small amount?
Jim
No, the tube hasn't budged a millimeter
Oh, I thought it budged a bit at first....
Was the jet, 31 tight/hard to remove?
If you place the a screwdriver blade flat on the end protruding into the venturi area to keep from damaging/flattening it and then use another screw driver to use as a lever that might work, keeping the other driver flat on the end of the tube...
Never seen that tube stick like that...
We do have an active member that is a Honda tech...Wonder if someone can rouse him....I don't recall his name. I will look/search and see.
Jim
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bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:bigfootford wrote:dreamco wrote:There is definitely no grey on either end of the tube that I can see...it appears brass color with no discoloration at all. The generator is only 2 years old with very minimal use. I'm really surprised that this tube is as seized as it is.
Me too!
Can you push it back in and out despite being a small amount?
Jim
No, the tube hasn't budged a millimeter
Oh, I thought it budged a bit at first....
Was the jet, 31 tight/hard to remove?
If you place the a screwdriver blade flat on the end protruding into the venturi area to keep from damaging/flattening it and then use another screw driver to use as a lever that might work, keeping the other driver flat on the end of the tube...
Never seen that tube stick like that...
We do have an active member that is a Honda tech...Wonder if someone can rouse him....I don't recall his name. I will look/search and see.
Jim
Ironically the main jet (#31) screwed right out without issue.
I'll try your method with a couple of screwdrivers and see how that works.
Thanks for all the help Jim....greatly appreciated!
Wayne
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Our tech guys tell me the tube should drop right out, maybe with some moderate taps to loosen it, but nothing severe.
If it does not drop out, it's likely the corrosion or debris has "welded" it to the inside of the carb body, and there's probably other nastiness in other parts of the carb too. A new carb maybe the best solution: $106 list price, but can usually be found discounted at many dealers. Honda part number is 16100-Z01-D03.
Lots of dealers sell parts online, but you can also find a local Honda dealer at this link: Honda Dealer Locator Link
-Robert@Honda
Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding was my opinion alone.
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dreamco
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robert@honda wrote:Our tech guys tell me the tube should drop right out, maybe with some moderate taps to loosen it, but nothing severe.
If it does not drop out, it's likely the corrosion or debris has "welded" it to the inside of the carb body, and there's probably other nastiness in other parts of the carb too. A new carb maybe the best solution: $106 list price, but can usually be found discounted at many dealers. Honda part number is 16100-Z01-D03.
Lots of dealers sell parts online, but you can also find a local Honda dealer at this link: Honda Dealer Locator Link
-Robert@Honda
Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Thanks for the info Robert...I plan to give it one more go to see if I can tap it out or extract it using a screw extractor. If I can't I suppose my only option is to order a whole new carb. Thanks again for looking into this for me.
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