VNDOC wrote:
I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 with added 2 leaf springs each side, crew cab, long box, HD, Cummings in line 6 factory installed exhaust brake , 6 speed auto, ST model, rated at 6745# by the State of Florida. Open range 413RLL, GVWR 14165#, the 413 is the sq. foot of living space. All together it comes to, GVWR, 20,910#, right at 53 to 56 feet long going down the road. Now for a look inside the mind of a person who won't look at facts. My best friend's, we have known each other for a little over 60 years,father was a plastering contractor in Daytona Beach, FL. he would always by 1/2 ton trucks, 6 cylinder, 3 speed standard. He would load the bed with as much as he could put in it, and then to bring the front wheels back down on the ground he would put bags of plaster on the hood, any other things he needed he would put on the floor and seat beside him. He never changed the oil, only added some if it was needed and he wouldn't buy new oil, only recycled oil because it was cheaper. Also he would hook his mixer to the hitch and put things in it that he needed to do his work. He passed away about 15 years ago at the age of 96. I told that story to bring to light calculating facts about weight of truck and trailer is great to know what you have but, how many of us going down the road are rock collectors. I have a wife and 15 year old daughter, plus myself if we stay in one spot more than a year we have do the garage sale thing, or toss it in the big green box before heading out to the next stop.
Yesterday I thought you had a 2009 Heartland did you trade?
I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 with added 2 leaf springs each side, crew cab, long box, HD, Cummings in line 6 factory installed exhaust brake , 6 speed auto, ST model, rated at 6745# by the State of Florida. Open range 413RLL, GVWR 14165#, the 413 is the sq. foot of living space. All together it comes to, GVWR, 20,910#, right at 53 to 56 feet long going down the road. Now for a look inside the mind of a person who won't look at facts. My best friend's, we have known each other for a little over 60 years,father was a plastering contractor in Daytona Beach, FL. he would always by 1/2 ton trucks, 6 cylinder, 3 speed standard. He would load the bed with as much as he could put in it, and then to bring the front wheels back down on the ground he would put bags of plaster on the hood, any other things he needed he would put on the floor and seat beside him. He never changed the oil, only added some if it was needed and he wouldn't buy new oil, only recycled oil because it was cheaper. Also he would hook his mixer to the hitch and put things in it that he needed to do his work. He passed away about 15 years ago at the age of 96. I told that story to bring to light calculating facts about weight of truck and trailer is great to know what you have but, how many of us going down the road are rock collectors. I have a wife and 15 year old daughter, plus myself if we stay in one spot more than a year we have do the garage sale thing, or toss it in the big green box before heading out to the next stop.
mayo30 wrote:
VNDOC wrote:
I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 with added 2 leaf springs each side, crew cab, long box, HD, Cummings in line 6 factory installed exhaust brake , 6 speed auto, ST model, rated at 6745# by the State of Florida. Open range 413RLL, GVWR 14165#, the 413 is the sq. foot of living space. All together it comes to, GVWR, 20,910#, right at 53 to 56 feet long going down the road. Now for a look inside the mind of a person who won't look at facts. My best friend's, we have known each other for a little over 60 years,father was a plastering contractor in Daytona Beach, FL. he would always by 1/2 ton trucks, 6 cylinder, 3 speed standard. He would load the bed with as much as he could put in it, and then to bring the front wheels back down on the ground he would put bags of plaster on the hood, any other things he needed he would put on the floor and seat beside him. He never changed the oil, only added some if it was needed and he wouldn't buy new oil, only recycled oil because it was cheaper. Also he would hook his mixer to the hitch and put things in it that he needed to do his work. He passed away about 15 years ago at the age of 96. I told that story to bring to light calculating facts about weight of truck and trailer is great to know what you have but, how many of us going down the road are rock collectors. I have a wife and 15 year old daughter, plus myself if we stay in one spot more than a year we have do the garage sale thing, or toss it in the big green box before heading out to the next stop.
Yesterday I thought you had a 2009 Heartland did you trade?I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 with added 2 leaf springs each side, crew cab, long box, HD, Cummings in line 6 factory installed exhaust brake , 6 speed auto, ST model, rated at 6745# by the State of Florida. Open range 413RLL, GVWR 14165#, the 413 is the sq. foot of living space. All together it comes to, GVWR, 20,910#, right at 53 to 56 feet long going down the road. Now for a look inside the mind of a person who won't look at facts. My best friend's, we have known each other for a little over 60 years,father was a plastering contractor in Daytona Beach, FL. he would always by 1/2 ton trucks, 6 cylinder, 3 speed standard. He would load the bed with as much as he could put in it, and then to bring the front wheels back down on the ground he would put bags of plaster on the hood, any other things he needed he would put on the floor and seat beside him. He never changed the oil, only added some if it was needed and he wouldn't buy new oil, only recycled oil because it was cheaper. Also he would hook his mixer to the hitch and put things in it that he needed to do his work. He passed away about 15 years ago at the age of 96. I told that story to bring to light calculating facts about weight of truck and trailer is great to know what you have but, how many of us going down the road are rock collectors. I have a wife and 15 year old daughter, plus myself if we stay in one spot more than a year we have do the garage sale thing, or toss it in the big green box before heading out to the next stop.
For real!!! Yesterday you had an Open Range "on order", while complaining about your Heartland...thought that post was "fishy"...
2013 Heartland Landmark Key Largo with Mor Ryde IS and disc brakes
2011 Chevy Silverado 3500 DRW Crew Cab Duramax Diesel
Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.
Fifth wheel: 2008 Weekend Warrior LED3505 Billet Edition. Loaded for long weekend, no water, empty waste tanks, 60 lbs. propane, Two batteries, 5.5 genset, 20 gallons fuel, two quads @ 640 lbs each.
TV rated capacity: 9,200 lbs.
Fifth wheel rated capacity: 18,000 lbs.
TV Weights Empty:
Front axle: 4,000 lbs.
Rear axle: 2,920 lbs.
Total TV weight: 6,920 lbs.
TV and Fifth wheel weights Loaded:
Front axle: 3,980 - decrease of 20 lbs.
Rear axle: 5,980 - increase of 3,060 lbs (pin weight)
Fifth wheel axles: 12,000 lbs.
Total trailer weight: 15,060 lbs.
Total Combined weight: 21,960 lbs.
I added air springs and changed the LT245 tires to LT265 to handle the extra weight. Truck pulls, turns and stops the rig fine even though I know it is over it's rated weight.
2005 Ford F350 Crew Cab, 4x4, 6.0L, Man Trans, Long Bed, Dually, 4:10, camper package, Lariat, Companion Hitch (Turn Over Ball)
Weighed using CAT SCALE (Hwy 58/Hwy 184 Bakersfield, CA.)
Truck Only (Full Tank of Fuel)with hitch
Steer Axle 4800 Lbs
Drive Axle 3700 Lbs
Total 8500 Lbs
Combined- Truck Only (Full Tank of Fuel), Full Propane & 42 gallon Water Tank
Steer Axle 4750 Lbs
Drive Axle 5020 Lbs
Trailer Axle 6640 Lbs
Total 16440 Lbs
Data (Source 2005 Ford Towing Guide)
Truck Maximum Trailer Towing Weight– (Manual Transmission) 15,600 Lbs
Truck Maximum Cargo with Slide-in Camper Rating 4,627 Lbs
Truck GVWR 13,000 Lbs
Truck GCWR 23,500 LBs
Data (Source posted on sticker on Coach)
Trailer Weight= 7330 Lbs dry
Trailer GVWR= 11311 Lbs
Trailer Cargo= 3931 Lbs
Pin Weight= 1340 Lbs (16.6%)
Trailer Weight= 7940 Lbs Wet
Cargo Weight available= 3371 LBS
ST225/75R/15D Duro Tires
We weighed our truck alone loaded and full of gas at:
7800 pds.
Fifth wheel was fully loaded, no water as we never carry it!
4480 steer axle
5420 drive axle
8980 trailer axle
18,880 combined weight
Have never fully understood the weight issues and everyone seems to have a different view on what it all means!!
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Now if we can just figure out what it all means??? Our truck is rated to tow 12850 camper, 20,000 combined GCWR, can't seem to figure out what the pin weight is, I know we are very close to being overweight however the truck does a great job and no real issues. Since we live in Colorado and do travel some high mountain passes we know we must be careful..
Al and Colleen
Lucy and Ricky (10 year old poodle and bishon)
2009 32 WRL Silverback
2004 Dodge Ram Cummings Turbo Diesel 5.9 6 speed HD Manual tranny
Western Slope Colorado
Frank
Thanks.
Frank