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Topic: Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

Posted By: EZ ED on 12/02/07 02:38pm

TV-- 2006 F250 4X4 FX4 timbrens full fuel, DW, dog tools etc
TH 2007 KZ 37Px2 all options except genny & fuel center. GL 1800 MC fully loaded for multi week vacation

CAT scale- Frt 4380
drive 6560
trailer 11080
total 22210

2008 Ford F350 CC
2007 KZ 37Px2
2002 GL1800 Trike (hers)
2004 GL1800 Gold Wing (mine)
Honda Rincon ATV

Posted By: billmx43 on 12/10/07 12:52pm

TV- 2006 Ram 2500 Quad cab 4wd
5er- 2008 Keystone Cougar

I weighed it 5 minutes after leaving the dealers lot so I would have a baseline number for future reference.

TV with driver and full fuel, Cougar empty but with full fresh water and propane.

CAT SCALE

Steer Axle- 4360 lb
Drive Axle- 4700 lb
Trailer - 7320 lb

Gross weight- 16380

2008 Keystone Cougar 310SRX
2006 Ram 2500 4x4 Quad Cab CTD
Curt E5 hitch/ R5 roller
Timbrens

Posted By: GeeJay on 12/18/07 12:43am

We have been sitting in KC KS while Custom Campers builds our new HHII. Being very weight concious, and being a data contributor to their recent in house discussion on uprated GVWRS when 7K axxles and "G" rated tire options are specified, they offered to weigh our coach when it came back from the frame shop with the upgraded Trailair CenterPoint suspension and disc brakes.

Here are our unloaded dry weight numbers. Over 20 custom options drives the UVW upward but the upgrated GVWR compensates for that.

GVWR- 15,500 lbs
Hitch Weight- 2,140 lbs.
UVW- 12,220 lbs
Load Capacity- 3,280 lbs
Net C.C.C- 2616 lbs.

Hope rhis is helpfuk

GeeJay

GeeJay & ElleJay w/"Camper"(cat)

Coaldale, AB (May-Oct) & Mission, TX (Nov-Apr)
2005 Safari Trek 28RB2 Class A
Ready Brute Elite Towbar w/Integral Surge Brake
2014 Fiat 500c Abarth Cabrio

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Posted By: John two on 12/22/07 07:45pm

Is there anyplace on line that I can find the GvWR for a Fleetwood Prowler LSI 34 ft. 2003, thanks

Retired
Chevy Silverado HD,4X4 Duramax Allison 6 speed

Posted By: [email protected] on 12/23/07 04:36pm

Am I correct that it would seem that the most often exceeded rating is the GVWR?

It seems likely most stay under both GAWR's and the GCWR.

M. Dean Nix
ex-Silent Service
'01 F250, Crew Cab, 4x4, Lariat, LWB, V-10 & 4.3 rear-end
'05 Gulf Stream Canyon Trail, 31FRBH (double slides)
36RQ Winnebego Chieftain P30 454 (Last RV, ebay purchase, great story)(SOLD)

Posted By: michiganjeff4 on 12/29/07 09:02am

Truck & 5er in sig. Weighed at CAT scale (2 pass method so I could get pin weight)

Truck weight includes hitch, full fuel (29 gal), and 4 occupants (weight of occupants ~500 lbs)

Trailer weight includes 2 full 30 lb propane tanks and one battery, no fluids in any tanks and otherwise completely empty.

Truck unhitched and loaded as described above: 8260 lbs
Trailer alone: 8420 lbs (GVWR 10,500 which leaves 2080 lbs for water and all the stuff)
Truck weight when hitched: 9580 lbs, under the 10,000 lb GVWR
Pin weight: 1320 lbs (16% of total trailer weight)
Truck and trailer total weight: 16680 lbs - well under the GCWR of 23000 lbs

All axles are under their listed GAWR

I have towed all over Michigan and down to Florida and back and average ~10 to 11 MPG at 65 MPH

2005 F250 4x4 XLT Crew Cab PSD Short Box
2007 Jayco 31.5 BHDS FW Reese 16K slider
Lovely wife of 13 years and two fantastic daughters

Posted By: hdtruck on 01/02/08 01:28pm

89 ford F450, 8.3 liter Cummins, 7 spd Spicer,Holland fifth wheel slide; 97 38' Teton San Diego Grande. Steer axel 6800
Rear axel 6300
Tongue 3300
Tlr axel 14350
total per CAT scale 30750

Posted By: MBOK on 01/04/08 04:19pm

TV Ratings-'06 F350 DRW
GVWR-13000
GFAWR-6000
GRAWR-9000
GCWR-23500

TV-Loaded for Travel
GVW-8580
GFAW-4940
GRAW-3640

TV w/trailer-Loaded for Travel
GVW-11860
GFAW-5000
GRAW-6860
GCW-22080

Trailer-Rating
GTWR-16000
GTAWR-2-7000# axles

Trailer unloaded
GTW-12100

Trailer loaded
GTW-13500
GTAW-1022

Pin-3280 / 24%

Total TV towing capacity, 14920 (GCWR - TV's loaded GVW)

Reserve TV cargo capacity = 1140 ( GVWR - loaded TV's GVW)
Or
Reserve Trailer towing capacity = 1420 ( Total TV towing capacity - loaded trailer's GTW)

'06 Truck LWB DRW - '07 37' 5th Wheel

Posted By: Granted on 01/04/08 08:14pm

Limits:
GVWR/ 11,200
F GAWR/ 4850
R GAWR/ 8250
GCWR/ 20,000

Actual weight with Driver, wife, Adult son with weight added to bed for better ride and drivability in snow..
Steer axel/ 4500
Drive Axel/ 3520
Gross weight/ 8020

So 11,200- 8020 = 3180 is this the pin weight + fifth wheel hitch weight ?
without exceeding R axel weight or GCWR.

GCWR/ 20,000-8020= 11,980
R GAWR/ 8250 - 3520 = 4730

So we have to find a fifth wheel that weights less than 11,980lbs and a pin + hitch weight of less than 3180 lbs or do I have the pin weight wrong ? Seems like we are more likely to go over on the GVWR before R GAWR.

That eliminates all units I have found so far that have cherry wood cabinets. Wow.

* This post was edited 01/04/08 08:20pm by Granted *

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2000 F350 XLT LA West Custom DRW 7.3 PSD
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Posted By: brdavies on 01/05/08 03:28pm

Weighed the setup in my signature with 1/2 tank of diesel in the TV, 2/3 tank of fresh water and 1/2 tank of propane - no people in the truck. The generators were in there and we had gear for three of us for 4 nights. I was in a hurry so I only got gross weight of the whole setup and it was 17,600.

2008 Ford F250 Crew Cab, 6.4PSD, 4x4 Off Road, Camper Pkg, Tow Command, Reese Signature 18K slider, Line-X
2004 Fleetwood Prowler Regal 285RLS Extreme Edition, Siemens Solar, Power Jacks, 2x Honda EU2000i

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