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Posted By: MrWizard on 04/07/08 01:35pm

to aztortuga

make sure, you have put the phone in 1x mode, the 8300 is 1x & evdo, it will default to evdo unless you turn evdo OFF by placing it in 1x mode, the spot to do that is in the service menu, just follow the instructons from the setup post, yes the phone uses the DUN.vzw3g.com when making an evdo connection, BUT AFAIK not when making a 1x connection, to change/remove the DUN from the ID in the phone requires some special software

the process requires saving a file called NV.data onto the PC editing that file with a HEX editing program, then overwriting that file on phone, with the new edited version,

if you wish to try this, i can find the links to the web pages that will give you the info,

I do these things, but be aware, you can make your phone a brick, if you do the wrong things with this kind of software, and yes i have 'BRICKED' a phone in the past, you do not learn this stuff with out occasionally making a mistake

to phitur,
this is what my post on the previous page is referring too, it seems VZW is finally in the process of doing 'what i was told months ago', its seems spotty, and not all over, its a software change to the system

the only work around i'm aware of is to purchase the $15 mobile web, and continue to use the backdoor, the 'mobile web' option is for 'phone browser' access to WAP ( Wireless Access Protocol ) but so far it has allowed the phone to tether to the PC, and give an internet connection.

NEVER mention PC data connecting, too CS unless you want to talk about the $59 data plan, Verzion stopped promoting DUN on 1x when they introduced the AMC plans with free nights & weekends, they 'sold' people on the idea when you paid for all your minutes, when there was NO free minutes, but stopped when they changed promotions

now they are implementing the shut down ( trying to close the backdoor )

I had to change Plans when i got the new Voyager phone in Dec, so i have been using this ( the $15 mobile web/vcast/vpak ), instead of the $59 data plan

do not mention data & PC to CS, just ask about the mobile web for the Phone

say you want to check the weather, email and sports scores on the phone, say you don't know much about it, but have friends or grand children that do it

* This post was edited 04/07/08 01:50pm by MrWizard *

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Posted By: phitur on 04/08/08 03:14pm

Thanks for the heads up, Mr Wizard. I have had the mobile web for some time now and I cannot connect any longer. Is there still a way without having to pay the $59?

Posted By: Anthony21403 on 04/08/08 04:09pm

I know that a lot of people use the AirCards for their internet, but for my own use, paying $10 a month extra to Alltel for unlimited tethering is a lot better deal.

MSG Tony, USAF, 20+ years
Back from my 6 month "Summer in the Sand" Vacation

Posted By: MrWizard on 04/08/08 05:44pm

phitur wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, Mr Wizard. I have had the mobile web for some time now and I cannot connect any longer. Is there still a way without having to pay the $59?

please clarify.

when i say 'mobile web' I am talking about the $15 add-on feature to the phones account, having this feature has allowed me to keep connected to the web, without paying the $59 data charge or paying by the megabyte

DO you have the $15 Vcast /mobile feature on your account ?

connecting the PC to the phone is NOT called 'mobile web' ( yes we are mobile in the RV ) but it is called 'tethering' the PC

IF you like many others do not pay $15 extra per month, you are using the 1x backdoor with minutes of use ( I used to do the same thing ), that is NOT the 'mobile web' feature which is designed for 'phone use' NOT PC tethering,

but i have the 'vcast/mobile web' $15 added to my account, and IT does allow me to connect the PC and fly under verizon radar ( until such time that they ALSO plug that hole ), so presently I pay $15 more a month NOT $59 more..so i can use the web

do not mention 'mobile web' $15 an PC to the verizon rep

just call up and add it to your account, or NOT, but do NOT talk to them about it.

* This post was edited 04/08/08 05:54pm by MrWizard *

Posted By: MrWizard on 04/09/08 01:26pm

from a post in the phone forum, from somebody, talking to vzw CS about this LOST DUN connection

verizon CS wrote:

Until recently, the only procedure in place to stop customers from using their handsets as modems to provide access to National or BroadbandAccess was by conducting audits of data used by our customers and disabling National/BroadbandAccess on high use accounts that were using these services without a data plan. The consequence is that these accounts could no longer access services such as Get It Now, Mobile Web, or VCast.

Verizon Wireless has found a solution to this issue and has now implemented it on our network and within our newer handsets. Our newest handsets now support the ability to allow the network to detect the initializing source of the data connection. This means that our network can now detect if the data connection is being initiated by the handset (Get It Now, Mobile Web, or VCast) or by a computer (Mobile Office kit or Dial-Up Networking). The network will allow handset-initiated connections to function normally and will block computer-initiated connections for accounts that are not provisioned with a data plan.

from here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=10919843

I believe part of this is the EVDO ID in the phone [email protected]

and part of it , is system software, that says this is a data call, and this account has NO data provision

they are closing the 1x minutes, backdoor, slower and later than i was informed last year, but verizon is closing it.

how long, the $15 mobileweb vcast. 'sneak in' will keep working, i don't know

* This post was edited 04/09/08 01:33pm by MrWizard *

Posted By: astalavistababy on 04/14/08 01:59pm

try T-mobile, choose any calling plan to your liking and needs and then add the data packet for $ 19.95, gives you unlimited access and unlimited downloads, connect to your PC via USB cable or wireless.

MrWizard wrote:

phitur wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, Mr Wizard. I have had the mobile web for some time now and I cannot connect any longer. Is there still a way without having to pay the $59?

Posted By: MrWizard on 04/14/08 08:02pm

here where where i am T-mo SUCKS, the connections drop and there used to be lots of squealing in my earpiece when a friend with t-mo called.. the squealing has stopped, but they still complain about NO service

Posted By: MrWizard on 04/15/08 01:04pm

1x update

Quote:

Upstate South Carolina stopped working around the 3rd.

jdbraun wrote:

Hey all. I'm writing with my experience here in Minneapolis area as well- as of April 4, no access could be had using my Motorola V3M.

Prior to 4-4-08, I had been routinely turning off EVDO and dialing up (DUN) using only minutes (MOU) on 1xRTT to verizon's provided ISP.

After receiving the redirect message at https://dunsp.vzw.com/, I attempted to modify my tethered NAI as described elsewhere on HowardForums (was supposed to allow tethered EVDO use without a data plan). That did not work either.

If anyone runs across ways to re-enable DUN access without a data plan, I'd be very interested.

FYI: I can still access my third party WAP/Mobile Web proxy, so it appears that Verizon can now distinguish between tethered and untethered access using something other than the NAI (as this thread would suggest:

from this thread
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1352407&page=1&pp=15

this brings the location total to 7, for places reporting 1x on minutes NO longer works

I think everybody who reads this thread, and uses the 1x backdoor, should make a test NOW of their Pc & phone, before they go camping, and again before they leave..

some of us are going to be on the road and find out, we don't have internet. many use it only occasionally, but you won't be happy when you get settled in your camp spot and find it doesn't work

Posted By: Belgique on 04/16/08 08:39am

Gone in Tidewater area of VA also. Alas. Wish Verizon would offer something for those that don't full time. Hard to justify $60/mo since we don't full time and the Aircard won't work where we live so we still need DSL. If I could turn it on and off, I'd be first in line.

Hickory, NC
2007 Fleetwood Discovery 40X

Posted By: MrWizard on 04/16/08 01:37pm

different subject, put i found this while perusing the new 'smart phone' data plan.. likely it is the same charge for an 'aircard' used in canada, look at CDMA data roam, in the middle of the picture

$2.05 MB

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