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Topic: How many of us are there? Owners of Dodge based RV's?

Posted By: eyeteeth on 07/23/07 01:50pm

Thought I would share this out... no names.. .and no reference to the dealership it came from, but my DW (who still isn't keen on the idea yet) sent someone we sorta know an e-mail asking for their opinion.

Every once in a while I receive requests much like yours. The best possible answer I can give, given the limited information, age, and type of coach this is, is that any value that this motor home has is strictly based on perception. The prices generally are what someone is willing to pay. Most of these older coaches are ready for the junk yard, but sometimes people keep them for unusual uses. Parts are generally hard or impossible to get sometimes and replacing components (such as a furnace or refrigerator) can be very expensive. Hopefully this is of some help.

I dunno... think they're trying to sell something?


Posted By: Leeann on 07/23/07 02:00pm

eyeteeth wrote:

think they're trying to sell something?


Yup.

My Dodge chassis is easier to get parts for than my '93 Toyota - I walk into my local parts supplier (NOT a chain store) and they ask what I need for the beast this time [emoticon]

If they don't actually have it on the shelf, they can have it there in a couple hours, tops.

Fridges/AC units/water heaters/stoves or whatever are available on eBay and Craigslist.

And brand new ones drop right into place should you go that route.

I kinda like working on mine...but that's me. Guess that's why we bought an old one...[emoticon]


'73 Concord 20' Class A w/Dodge 440 - see profile for photo


Posted By: 79powerwagon on 07/23/07 02:19pm

Of course they're ready for the junk yard! That's why the person got rid of it! But then again, they may be like a friends older brother who traded in his cars for a new one when the tires needed replacing.[emoticon]

Someone willing to stick a bit of sweat equity and a few bucks can really have themselves a nice rig on the BIG CHEAP! I've been shopping for a cheap used Class C for sometime, and it looks as though even on eBay, none sell for much less than $2500.00, regardless of how unraodworthy they are! I'm stll at under a grand total (including purchase and 80miles of towing). I'll a few hundred in all new brakes (I was surprised how inexpensive the whole brake system is!), and all I'm left with tires (which I finally got a quote from the RV joint in Arkansas, cheapest you'll ever find, even with shipping to WI), so I'm darn near ready! And it won't be at $2500.00 either!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: timmac on 07/23/07 09:03pm

Masterboondocker wrote :
ANYONE convert a 440 ...... to use the 413 Industrial heads ?

What will this do,, I have heard it might raise compression,, but will heads fit and will there be problems with blowing head gaskets..


Posted By: MasterBoondocker on 07/23/07 09:10pm

79powerwagon wrote:



MBD, what mods would one need to make to put 413 heads on a 440? Shouldn't they still bolt on, despite being B heads (vs RB heads)?

Eric


9er .... you would need the heads, push rods, exhaust manifolds and the massive water pump and housing. I am NOT sure of the combustion chamber cc diff ...... I would like to know MORE about this swap.


Posted By: MasterBoondocker on 07/23/07 09:13pm

79powerwagon wrote:



MBD, if I recall, isn't your rig one of those "Saturday Morning Cartoon" looking pointy-nosed rigs, like a B on steroids? I'd LOVE to see pics of that!!!!!!!!! [emoticon]eer:

Eric


Saturday-Morning-Cartoon ??... !! ...... SEND me your email addy -- I will send you a pic that you could POST if you like.

It IS major DIFF from the regular MHs !


Posted By: MasterBoondocker on 07/23/07 09:22pm

timmac wrote:

Masterboondocker wrote :
ANYONE convert a 440 ...... to use the 413 Industrial heads ?

What will this do,, I have heard it might raise compression,, but will heads fit and will there be problems with blowing head gaskets..


tm ..... I do believe that the comb chamber cc's are slightly smaller on the indust heads ... but not that much of a diff to make that HUGE of a compression diff. WHY would you think there might be gasket-issues? ... the steel-shim gaskets are GOOD for up to 13 to 1.

The indust heads are not near the max flow rate of the 440 heads - but this hi-flow is not needed at or near 3000 rpm.


Posted By: 79powerwagon on 07/24/07 05:02am

OK, pics of the new floor, before and after. What a difference!

Before
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After
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Don't worry, the tags will come off the carpeting! And my table is built, just need to find the right finish for it.

Eric


Posted By: Leeann on 07/24/07 06:17am

Major difference is an understatement....that looks awesome!

You're pushing me to get off my butt and install the laminate I've got sitting in my dining room [emoticon]


Posted By: mkpj1 on 07/24/07 10:14am

Can't hide money PW!

MB, why the change? I'm a Blue Oval guy when it comes to building engines and could tell you castings and years to look for depending on application in regards to big block, small block Ford. This is probably not the forum to ask that technical question? I have a buddy who is a machinist who bleeds Mopar blue (And he does bleed a lot) and he would probably know if you can't find a mopar site. I know that it would increase your compression, doubt it would blow head gaskets if done right. Issue would be going above 9.5 compression and eliminating pump gas. Detonation would kill an RV engine quick. Another question is if your lower end could tolerate it either? Do you need heads and have them laying around? I wouldn't see the need otherwise? Please explain.

Ken


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