Pirate
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Ivylog wrote:Pirate, I guess you do not understand what the recall box does. It's a bandaid to hopefully shut the refer down before it burns the RV up. These recall boxes are junk, just like the Norcolds and have a high failure rate which shuts down the unit when nothing is wrong. All that's wrong with the OP's is the recall box (alternator), not the refer (engine). OK? OK.
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Ivylog wrote:Pirate, I guess you do not understand what the recall box does. It's a bandaid to hopefully shut the refer down before it burns the RV up. These recall boxes are junk, just like the Norcolds and have a high failure rate which shuts down the unit when nothing is wrong. All that's wrong with the OP's is the recall box (alternator), not the refer (engine). OK?
Iam On my 3 rd diesel pusher and 3rd 1200 series fridge and never ever a problem.I have the REVD for a year now and no problems
The % of actual 1200 cooling unit failures verses the Number of 1200 units produced is minute.The recall is not a bandaid at all.Its a safety measure put in place in case of like .005% chnace your cooling unit leaks and starts to overheat.The RV centre that installed my REV D has done like 50 recalls and has never seen one fail as in cooling unit or recall
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Ivylog
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If it was only 5 in 100,000 (0.005%) I guess that would be OK, if you were not one of the 5. Unfortunately when it comes to the 1200's it closer to 1 in 5,000 and yes this is a SWAG, but I'm at 13 MH's that I've seen burned by these POS refers. What revision is Norcold on of their recall??? Number 4 or is it 5? Does not give me a warm feeling... Oh wait, it could be a real hot feeling.
I agree it is NOT a good idea to bypass without knowing what to look for. You need to watch the temp of the flue area as you may well have a problem. If the freezer does not start to get cold in 2-3 hours I would be buying coolers and dry ice.
This post is my opinion (free advice). It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
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filadelfia
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Would not the red led be lit on the recall box if high temp was detected? Just asking.
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These threads pop up every couple of weeks and the same discussion occurs. The actual units that catch fire are probably miniscuel, but the units just don't do a good job of cooling. Its a constant battle to keep one working well when the temps get above 85 degrees outside. I've finally got mine cooling reasonably well with some fan additions.
I know there are a few people who keep defending Norcold, but please explain their lousy customer service. I love when you call a company with a question and they tell you to call a local repairman. We all know that about one in ten repairman are knowledgeable about the units or give a crap. The other is the fact that you can't buy a new door seal without buying a door. That's the epitomy of an arrogant company attitude.
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Ivylog
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X2 for D...Don's post. When I had my 1200 cooling unit replaced with a Amish one, they pointed out the difference and why the 1200s give so much trouble. The Amish ones have a pair of coils that fill up the bottom half of the unit. The Norcold coil only fills part of the area and is the same size as a 6 cu ft Norcold. Put a 1200 in a slide and you will need a really good install and extra fans to get it to work OK.
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Ivylog wrote:X2 for D...Don's post. When I had my 1200 cooling unit replaced with a Amish one, they pointed out the difference and why the 1200s give so much trouble. The Amish ones have a pair of coils that fill up the bottom half of the unit. The Norcold coil only fills part of the area and is the same size as a 6 cu ft Norcold. Put a 1200 in a slide and you will need a really good install and extra fans to get it to work OK.
Good point.
Doubling the load a MH carries using the same engine as was used with half of the load now demanded of it would lead to poor performance and shorter engine life. While they increased the 'fuel' they put into the cooling unit 'engine' (two heating elements vs one) I think the short fall is using the old smaller 'engine' design instead of builing a cooling 'engine' like the Amish designed for the Norcold 1200 units.
I think this is the under lying issue with the Norcold 1200 cooling units today. Under certain conditions the Norcold 1200 cooling unit (engine) can last and perform quite well as can a light duty engine in a MH chassis for some people.
Our 1992 Norcold 600 series cooling unit lasted 18 years and did not have cooling performance or over heating issues.
In fairness to Norcold and other makers the lost of roof vents for refrigerator cooling compounded the performance/heat issues.
In extensive testing of our unit we have found every 3F degree rise in air temperature behind the cooling unit there will be a 1F degree rise INSIDE the lower frigerator box.
Put more heating elements/bigger burner back there will cut the cooling performance of most any RV type refrigerator. Fans will help as 1200 owners learn when the fans fail.
Hot weather just tests any cooling system on any type.
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What's an Amish one??
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RCtime
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supercub wrote:What's an Amish one?? http://rvcoolingunit.com/1200LR-Norcold-........ling-Unit-built-by-the-Amish-P13259.aspx
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Ivylog wrote:X2 for D...Don's post. When I had my 1200 cooling unit replaced with a Amish one, they pointed out the difference and why the 1200s give so much trouble. The Amish ones have a pair of coils that fill up the bottom half of the unit. The Norcold coil only fills part of the area and is the same size as a 6 cu ft Norcold. Put a 1200 in a slide and you will need a really good install and extra fans to get it to work OK.
now the question is are you comparing this to a 2002-2003 model or a 2010+ Norcold model?? Big difference
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