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RVUSA

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Posted: 02/02/12 08:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I got hit when I was 15 by an old lady that stopped at the stop sign and then kept going. She never saw me. I didnt break any bones, but my joints siezed up so much that I couldnt walk for a couple of months.

Been riding dirt bikes ever since, still crashing though.

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Posted: 02/02/12 08:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Whether car or bike, we need to be looking out for the "other" driver out there, who just isn't paying attention....."Drive Defensively" still works!!

I try to figure that the other drive isn't paying attention, and doesn't see me...even in the MH....or the School Bus.....and some times, they don't!! Give 'em room.


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Humans have actual blind spots, (scotoma, is an obscuration of the visual field) and in the right circumstances you can miss a motorcycle in your field of vision.



Take the blind spot test HERE!


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revump And what about the moronic motorcyclists who fly by you squeezing between vehicles, popping wheelies, and racing, who don't pay attention to any speed limit. I think that this is at least a two-way street.


There are old motorcycle riders and bold motorcycle riders but no old bold motorcycle riders.


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Posted: 02/03/12 07:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

stickdog wrote:

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revump And what about the moronic motorcyclists who fly by you squeezing between vehicles, popping wheelies, and racing, who don't pay attention to any speed limit. I think that this is at least a two-way street.


There are old motorcycle riders and bold motorcycle riders but no old bold motorcycle riders.

Hmm, Giacomo Agostini may disagree with that. And Malcom Smith. And Joel Robert.


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MrWizard wrote:

yes there are some idiot's on motorcycles
but as a RIDER and a driver I do believe there are more inattentive drivers than idiot show off cyclists


I couldn't agree more! I have ridden since I was very young and the attention paid to the two wheel variety is slim to none. The condition the OP speaks of is yet another excuse to justify a lack in someone's situational awareness. If you are on the road.....pay attention to the road! I beg of everyone that reads this; please, please look out for us. A fender bender in a car is deadly for a motorcycle.


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67 years old - riding since I was early teens, in the range of 500,000 miles ridden and 1 major crash..An adult, by age only, woman hurriedly pulled away from a red light when the driver beside her made a legal right turn on red..We were with a group of 8 bikes..It was Sunday morning, she was on her cell phone and taking her young kids to church, just not paying attention - her husband was a fireman with lots of police friends and she had lots of dismissed or reduced tickets on record, minimum insurance..
Nothing permanent to wife or self, just some broke ribs, took a long time to heal..
Where does this fit - bike or car or a person not paying attnetion..


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dubdub07 wrote:

I beg of everyone that reads this; please, please look out for us. A fender bender in a car is deadly for a motorcycle.


I've always felt that no matter how RIGHT the motorcycle rider might have been - the moment the bike physically encounters something - the rider loses.

I must say that as a non-rider, the bikes with the modulated headlights are MUCH more visible/attention-grabbing!

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I don't ride, but I have had some near misses with riders. Being as I have a conscience, I have no desire to hurt someone, so I analyzed each situation to try to figure out what I can do differently.

In the first situation, the bike had a lot of chrome on it, but it was an older Harley so the rider was able to ride without the headlight on. It was a sunny day and he was being followed closely by a large pickup with a chrome grill. This is the essence of camouflage. I could clearly see the truck and guaging his speed, I knew I could pull out in front of him and accelerate to his speed before he even got near me. I cut the biker off; fortunately he was able to pull to the dashed lines between the lanes.

Lesson learned: when looking to pull out in front of a vehicle with lots of chrome on the front, double check for a motorcycle.

In the second case, I went to enter a highway from a parking lot. There was several cars and a motorcycle coming, but they were a little over a quarter mile away. I pulled up, stopped, and looked. The lead car in the right lane, out of courtesy, changed lanes. This revealed the motorcycle that was behind him -- note as I say, over a quarter mile away. I pulled onto the highway. I was nearly rear ended by the motorcycle. Where were the cars when this happened? About an eighth of a mile or a little more behind me.

Lesson learned: a "crotch rocket" has that name for a reason. They can accelerate faster than any other vehicle on the road. If you can see one, don't pull out in front of them. Some of these drivers will immediately accelerate as hard as they can the moment they get a piece of open road.

I actually discussed the latter incident with a coworker who drove a crotch rocket. He said he had similar near misses while riding. Then he said, "come to think of it, it makes sense that the people pull out -- if I see a vehicle poised to pull onto the road I guess I really don't have open road".


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Posted: 02/03/12 11:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I used to have a fast little motorcycle (Yamaha RD350) and loved to ride - except in bad weather.

I became an EMT, got rid of the motorcycle.

Except to the lawyers, it absolutely does not matter who is at fault in an accident, so there is no point in blaming any class of drivers (no matter how much they may deserve it).

If you are in an accident, your injuries are the result of the physics of the situation, especially the momentum (mass times velocity). Car vs. motorcycle, motorcyclist takes the brunt of the damage, semi vs. car, car driver takes the brunt of the damage, motorcycle vs. bridge abutment - I hope to never see that again.

Some car occupants fare better in some accidents because of safety equipment, but there aren't air bags, seat belts, crush zones, etc. in motorcycles. RVs do have seat belts, but not much else (although I think it is better to be in an RV than a motorcycle in most accidents).

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