Snowman9000

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We used our Tailgater for the first time the other day. It worked fine but the local channel handling is a mess IMO. The setup asks you what state you are in. The final step of the setup is the downloading of the program guide. It put our home local channels into the guide because that's what our account showed.
Then if a person tries to select one of those locals, the system fails and has to go through the whole 15 minute setup all over again.
So DISH allows you to call in and change your "service address" to the CG. Which makes me nervous, but it gives you local channels, once you go through the whole setup again. And, if your DW has recordings scheduled back home, she is SOL because your home receivers are now set for the new locals at the CG.
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
I sure didn't know this going in to the Tailgater purchase. Their software should, when it asks what state you are in (for aiming purposes), instead ask you a zip code for aiming AND for locals. The current method is very clunky IMO. We are going to change back to our home locals and make sure we don't try to view them. We will get the major networks off our antenna in the RV if they are available. Otherwise we won't be getting the majors. So our Tailgater will only be useful for the "cable" type networks. I'm not sure, maybe we can route the antenna signal into the receiver and then use the DISH DVR features on those channels. I'll have to look into that.
Just wanted to make sure people understand how this works before buying. I'm not at all sure I would have bought the Tailgater and the hard drive I added for DVR, given this situation. I can use that space in the 5er cargo hold for something else.
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We have a kvh dome on our motorhome. Once we're outside our home area we no longer get our locals. We have to call Dish to get the locals from whatever area we are in. Only with the kvh we couldn't get them even after Dish switched our locals because the the kvh never could see the satellite necessary for our locals ( and many other channels). We bought a Tailgater and now get all our channels, and we'd get our locals as soon as we call Dish to change them to this location's local channels. We can't have local channels from this area and locals at home at the same time. I beleive
the only way we could do that is to set up a separate account with Dish for our motorhome.
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I don't call Dish, instead I bought the distant networks from All American Direct so I have local channels no matter where I am with out the hasstle of dealing with Dish all the time
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Snowman9000 wrote: We used our Tailgater for the first time the other day. It worked fine but the local channel handling is a mess IMO. The setup asks you what state you are in. The final step of the setup is the downloading of the program guide. It put our home local channels into the guide because that's what our account showed.
Then if a person tries to select one of those locals, the system fails and has to go through the whole 15 minute setup all over again.
So DISH allows you to call in and change your "service address" to the CG. Which makes me nervous, but it gives you local channels, once you go through the whole setup again. And, if your DW has recordings scheduled back home, she is SOL because your home receivers are now set for the new locals at the CG.
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
I sure didn't know this going in to the Tailgater purchase. Their software should, when it asks what state you are in (for aiming purposes), instead ask you a zip code for aiming AND for locals. The current method is very clunky IMO. We are going to change back to our home locals and make sure we don't try to view them. We will get the major networks off our antenna in the RV if they are available. Otherwise we won't be getting the majors. So our Tailgater will only be useful for the "cable" type networks. I'm not sure, maybe we can route the antenna signal into the receiver and then use the DISH DVR features on those channels. I'll have to look into that.
Just wanted to make sure people understand how this works before buying. I'm not at all sure I would have bought the Tailgater and the hard drive I added for DVR, given this situation. I can use that space in the 5er cargo hold for something else. Thanks for pointing all that info out. DW has already voiced her opinion concerning the programs she has programed in to record at stick house, and don't I dare go messing it up by switching to locals when we are out of the home area.
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Sounds like you are using the same account for both home and RV? If you want to have different programming options at home versus the RV, you'll need two separate accounts.
Snowman9000 wrote: We used our Tailgater for the first time the other day. It worked fine but the local channel handling is a mess IMO. The setup asks you what state you are in. The final step of the setup is the downloading of the program guide. It put our home local channels into the guide because that's what our account showed.
Then if a person tries to select one of those locals, the system fails and has to go through the whole 15 minute setup all over again.
So DISH allows you to call in and change your "service address" to the CG. Which makes me nervous, but it gives you local channels, once you go through the whole setup again. And, if your DW has recordings scheduled back home, she is SOL because your home receivers are now set for the new locals at the CG.
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
I sure didn't know this going in to the Tailgater purchase. Their software should, when it asks what state you are in (for aiming purposes), instead ask you a zip code for aiming AND for locals. The current method is very clunky IMO. We are going to change back to our home locals and make sure we don't try to view them. We will get the major networks off our antenna in the RV if they are available. Otherwise we won't be getting the majors. So our Tailgater will only be useful for the "cable" type networks. I'm not sure, maybe we can route the antenna signal into the receiver and then use the DISH DVR features on those channels. I'll have to look into that.
Just wanted to make sure people understand how this works before buying. I'm not at all sure I would have bought the Tailgater and the hard drive I added for DVR, given this situation. I can use that space in the 5er cargo hold for something else.
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Snowman9000

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paulcardoza wrote: Sounds like you are using the same account for both home and RV? If you want to have different programming options at home versus the RV, you'll need two separate accounts.
Yes, good point. I might have to start a pay as you go account. Assuming I can put my home 211k receiver into the trailer and use it that way.
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Snowman9000 wrote: paulcardoza wrote: Sounds like you are using the same account for both home and RV? If you want to have different programming options at home versus the RV, you'll need two separate accounts.
Yes, good point. I might have to start a pay as you go account. Assuming I can put my home 211k receiver into the trailer and use it that way.
Moderator's edit: Corrected the quote tag. But that is $8 a month added to current account vs how much a month for for a pay as you go account? Think it would be something like $60 plus for the Pay As You Go account. I don't need locals that badly for a additional $60+ a month on top of my stick house bill. Can get the News on CNN and weather on the Weather channel. Don't watch that much TV on the road anyway.
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Snowman9000 wrote:
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
Last year I purchased the Wineguard Automatic Portable. We traveled for 10 weeks East to West coast and everywhere in between. Our VIP 211 receiver is set as an additional receiver off of our home system since it only costs us $6/month.
Every so often we called dish to change our service address to update our locals. Once in a while the Rep said they couldn't do it when I explained why - so I just called back, got someone else and had it done. Not a big deal but still a PITA. Most of the time we just didn't call dish and didn't have network shows.
All that said - I've heard that if I use an NY or LA address I can get those locals nationwide as they are not on spotbeam... I really dont care about the "locals" - I want ABC CBS NBC etc so that we can watch certain weekly shows and most times we are out in the boonies and cant get a decent over the air signal. This seems like I could call once when we leave home... set a new service address - and forget about it until we get back home.
Is this true? If someone is doing that could you please expand upon it? Such as do I just pick an address out of thin air or what? Tell me what you do.
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gkerlin wrote: Snowman9000 wrote:
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
Last year I purchased the Wineguard Automatic Portable. We traveled for 10 weeks East to West coast and everywhere in between. Our VIP 211 receiver is set as an additional receiver off of our home system since it only costs us $6/month.
Every so often we called dish to change our service address to update our locals. Once in a while the Rep said they couldn't do it when I explained why - so I just called back, got someone else and had it done. Not a big deal but still a PITA. Most of the time we just didn't call dish and didn't have network shows.
All that said - I've heard that if I use an NY or LA address I can get those locals nationwide as they are not on spotbeam... I really dont care about the "locals" - I want ABC CBS NBC etc so that we can watch certain weekly shows and most times we are out in the boonies and cant get a decent over the air signal. This seems like I could call once when we leave home... set a new service address - and forget about it until we get back home.
Is this true? If someone is doing that could you please expand upon it? Such as do I just pick an address out of thin air or what? Tell me what you do.
Thanks The catch is that if DW wants something recorded from a local channel on the receiver at the stick house and you change the service address so you can watch locals in the RV, well the DW looses that recording at home because that receiver is not in the Spot Beam you just told them you wanted, there for no locals at home and no recording. Now that gets you in trouble with DW! Way I figure it, I watch the locals and local news/weather on over the air antenna and the other channels on Dish. The DW and I have already had this discussion and I was informed that this is the way it will be. Her recordings are more important than watching local channels were ever we are.
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gkerlin wrote: Snowman9000 wrote:
Or you can do a fulltime type option, which gives you Los Angeles locals everywhere. Including your S&B, which is a no-go for us.
All that said - I've heard that if I use an NY or LA address I can get those locals nationwide as they are not on spotbeam... I really dont care about the "locals" - I want ABC CBS NBC etc so that we can watch certain weekly shows and most times we are out in the boonies and cant get a decent over the air signal. This seems like I could call once when we leave home... set a new service address - and forget about it until we get back home.
Is this true? If someone is doing that could you please expand upon it? Such as do I just pick an address out of thin air or what? Tell me what you do.
Thanks
You are suppose to do a RV waiver for that and have a separate RV account. You have to fax your RV's registration to Dish. And the folks that are often referred to as the RV service team are primarily assigned as the Dish Audit Department. Their primary job is to track down receivers that are not in the proper account locations. what that is called is account stacking and that is illegal. dish will find out. You'll get a call from the Dish nazi's (audit people) who will ask you to read off some numbers off the dish box. Problem is one of the numbers changes all the time so you can't just write it down. Then they suspend that receiver and pretty much you're screwed getting that box back up. If they can't contact you, they will suspend it anyway and wait for your call. They are nice folks provided your doing it right.
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