skyhammer
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The Ford dealer is just repeating what Ford tells them. You cannot get the camper package with 20" wheels, which means Ford won't certify the truck to carry a camper.
That would seem to mean that Ford doesn't think that it is a good idea to carry/haul heavy weights with 20" tires.
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mkirsch
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If the tires are rated for the load, there is no reason you should feel fear about using them for the load.
If the tires fail during the hauling of that load, then that is a problem with materials and/or workmanship. When a tire is rated to handle Xlbs, it should handle Xlbs. If they do not, it is THEIR fault, not yours. You are only as good as what you are told by the people that are responsible for designing and marketing the product.
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tdeal823 wrote:1jeep wrote:
Your biggest issue with the tires that you are looking at is going to be the outside diamater increase and rolling resistance.
You are right. I just hate the look of the dumb skinny tires on the GM HD Trucks.
Looks like a big elephant on roller skates!
Take it from someone with those wider factory 20's living in the snow belt........those skinny tires sure cut through the snow better.
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skyhammer wrote:The Ford dealer is just repeating what Ford tells them. You cannot get the camper package with 20" wheels, which means Ford won't certify the truck to carry a camper.
That would seem to mean that Ford doesn't think that it is a good idea to carry/haul heavy weights with 20" tires.
I dont believe you...sorry, but my truck has the camper pckage and factory 20" wheels with "E" rated tires.
The 20" tires are not much taller or wideer than my previous trucks 18", but by having a shorter sidewall there is a bit of handling difference.
I think you guys need to start realizing 20" wheels are like the 17" wheels of the 90's...everyone was afraid they wouldnt carry a load and thouhgt they were all car tires.
Granted some of the 20, 22 and 24's are car tires, but not all of them.
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This is what Ford says. " Camper package not available with 20" wheels and tires, 3:31 axle ratio, or heavy duty front suspension package.
So Ford is saying, if you want any of those options, you can't get the camper package.
It not a question of believing me, but believing what Ford says.
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1jeep
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then i must have some freak of a truck, it has 3:55 gears, 20" wheels with the fx4 package and overload springs. Maybe it doesnt have "the camper"package, but it certainly has an extra spring that the other F250's didnt have on the lot.
Honestly nothing would suprise me and that might explain why the dealer couldnt wait to get rid of my truck. Now i have to go find the window sticker to see what it lists...curioustiy sucks.
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I do not get why you would want 20" wheels and tires. The bigger the tire size the more they cost. And I do not see any avantage of 20" over 17".
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well i dont think any of the SRW super duties come with anything less than 18" now and i didnt really want 20" they were on the truck.
I am certian there is more advantage than just lower profile sidewalls.
The tundra i had came with 18" wheels so they could fit over the brakes, i suspect the super duties have the same issue.
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JN_B
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Quote:I do not get why you would want 20" wheels and tires. The bigger the tire size the more they cost. And I do not see any avantage of 20" over 17".
There's a huge advantage handling wise with a 20" wheel vs 17". Basically the tire is less likely to not "roll over" on the sidewalls with a 20" rim which leads to more corning confidence.
Unfortunately the downside is, that same road "feel" (and performance increase) you get with less sidewall comes at a price (literally & figuratively) and Less sidewall to help absorb road irregularities. Although on trucks with 20" rims, you still end up having 4-5 (or more) inches of sidewall, so that might be negligable.
The bigger issue is weight. Both the weight of the rim and the load capacity of the rim. Majority of aftermarket 20" rims weigh a ton, and will increase your unsprung weight (ie. your truck will accelerate slower than before (not much but it will)). And load capacity, most 20" rims aren't designed for hauling heavy.
But since you are talking factory 20's, go for it. My next truck will have 20's.
I personally think there are 2 negatives to 20's. Cost & available tread patterns, but that is changing daily.
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Jayco25E wrote:I do not get why you would want 20" wheels and tires. The bigger the tire size the more they cost. And I do not see any avantage of 20" over 17".
For most it is simply appearance. They do make for some good looking wheels and tires.
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