Crazy4gsds
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Thanks! Like you said - we found the info we needed in the owner's manual (just took a bit of digging)!
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jaycocamprs
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skipnchar wrote:Registering your truck for more weight than it's capable of towing is just paying extra taxes voluntarily. Your choice but it doesn't make your truck tow more or haul more.
Not true. With 14K tages that is the Gross Combined Weight limit with a cargo trailer. So a 7K truck means a 7K trailer. If I want to pull the 15K trailer weight that GM rated the truck at, I need plates for 24K. With RV's & boats Georgia does not require the tags to cover all axles, as the RV & boat will pay it's own tax.
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whisperide
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jaycocamprs wrote:skipnchar wrote:Registering your truck for more weight than it's capable of towing is just paying extra taxes voluntarily. Your choice but it doesn't make your truck tow more or haul more.
Not true. With 14K tages that is the Gross Combined Weight limit with a cargo trailer. So a 7K truck means a 7K trailer. If I want to pull the 15K trailer weight that GM rated the truck at, I need plates for 24K. With RV's & boats Georgia does not require the tags to cover all axles, as the RV & boat will pay it's own tax.
You're registering your pickup for your GCWR? MDTs and up may need to do that, but 1-ton and lesser pickups just get registered for GVWR, NOT including the trailer.
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45Ricochet
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It's all in the tire rating in Cali, unless your truck weights less than 4k 
A: The California Vehicle Code (CVC) does not contain a law that
specifically limits the amount of weight a vehicle may tow based on the
towing vehicle GVWR or GCWR. There are, however, laws that limit the
amount a vehicle may tow based on other criteria.
Section 21715(b) CVC prohibits a motor vehicle under 4,000 pounds
unladen from towing any vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds or more gross
weight. This section would apply to smaller pickups and Sport Utility
Vehicles attempting to tow large trailers.
Section 1085(d) of Title 13 California Code of Regulations prohibits
the loading of tires above the maximum load rating marked on the tire,
or if unmarked the maximum load rating as specified in the applicable
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, or in a publication furnished to
the public by the tire manufacturer. This would most likely happen in
the case of a pickup truck towing a large fifth wheel travel trailer, as
those types of trailers tend to transfer a larger portion of their
weight to the last axle of the towing unit causing that axle to exceed
the tire load limits.
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DSteiner51
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whisperide wrote:jaycocamprs wrote:skipnchar wrote:Registering your truck for more weight than it's capable of towing is just paying extra taxes voluntarily. Your choice but it doesn't make your truck tow more or haul more.
Not true. With 14K tages that is the Gross Combined Weight limit with a cargo trailer. So a 7K truck means a 7K trailer. If I want to pull the 15K trailer weight that GM rated the truck at, I need plates for 24K. With RV's & boats Georgia does not require the tags to cover all axles, as the RV & boat will pay it's own tax.
You're registering your pickup for your GCWR? MDTs and up may need to do that, but 1-ton and lesser pickups just get registered for GVWR, NOT including the trailer.
Not in Ohio! You best have your registration for the GCVWR or you could end up with a hefty fine. My old Ford Ranger with a 6000lb registration with the load I was pulling was just under $3000. By going to a 10,000lb registration the fine was just under $100. Be careful!
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benalbert
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DSteiner51 wrote:whisperide wrote:jaycocamprs wrote:skipnchar wrote:Registering your truck for more weight than it's capable of towing is just paying extra taxes voluntarily. Your choice but it doesn't make your truck tow more or haul more.
Not true. With 14K tages that is the Gross Combined Weight limit with a cargo trailer. So a 7K truck means a 7K trailer. If I want to pull the 15K trailer weight that GM rated the truck at, I need plates for 24K. With RV's & boats Georgia does not require the tags to cover all axles, as the RV & boat will pay it's own tax.
You're registering your pickup for your GCWR? MDTs and up may need to do that, but 1-ton and lesser pickups just get registered for GVWR, NOT including the trailer.
Not in Ohio! You best have your registration for the GCVWR or you could end up with a hefty fine. My old Ford Ranger with a 6000lb registration with the load I was pulling was just under $3000. By going to a 10,000lb registration the fine was just under $100. Be careful!
This is a state by state rule. Some states register for GCW some don't. Usually your home state's rule is what will be applied if you are checked. It is good to know what the law is, that way you can inform the officer is you need to.
As far as the OP is concerned, I do not know what florida's law is. Maine is a GCW state. ND registers you for 150% of the trucks curb weight, no exceptions.
Concerning the door tag weights, most places will use the tire ratings for your max load, as it is an easy to find number that cannot be argued with.
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blt2ski
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benalbert wrote:DSteiner51 wrote:whisperide wrote:jaycocamprs wrote:skipnchar wrote:Registering your truck for more weight than it's capable of towing is just paying extra taxes voluntarily. Your choice but it doesn't make your truck tow more or haul more.
Not true. With 14K tages that is the Gross Combined Weight limit with a cargo trailer. So a 7K truck means a 7K trailer. If I want to pull the 15K trailer weight that GM rated the truck at, I need plates for 24K. With RV's & boats Georgia does not require the tags to cover all axles, as the RV & boat will pay it's own tax.
You're registering your pickup for your GCWR? MDTs and up may need to do that, but 1-ton and lesser pickups just get registered for GVWR, NOT including the trailer.
Not in Ohio! You best have your registration for the GCVWR or you could end up with a hefty fine. My old Ford Ranger with a 6000lb registration with the load I was pulling was just under $3000. By going to a 10,000lb registration the fine was just under $100. Be careful!
This is a state by state rule. Some states register for GCW some don't. Usually your home state's rule is what will be applied if you are checked. It is good to know what the law is, that way you can inform the officer is you need to.
As far as the OP is concerned, I do not know what florida's law is. Maine is a GCW state. ND registers you for 150% of the trucks curb weight, no exceptions.
Concerning the door tag weights, most places will use the tire ratings for your max load, as it is an easy to find number that cannot be argued with.
Nice to know other states are somewhat like mine, ie Washington. We have to register our trucks also at 150% of tare wt to the nearest greater ton. So if your truck weighs 7000 lbs, time 150% is 10500, you "SHOULD" get a 12K plate, altho you could probably get way with a 10K in reality. Difference is all of about $12 a ton, until you go to 14K, then there is a $100'ish FET of some sort, may have the "FET" part incorrect, but found out the hard way when I went from 12K to 14K registered GVW on my dually! Went from 22 initial t 26K on my dumptruck, difference was all of $20'ish, so thought it would be similar for the pickup, since I found myself going across scales in the 13-14K range, upon occasion low 14's.....I'll worry about that when and if caught!
In a nutshell, if not sure, ask at your local DeptOfLicensing or equal in your jurisdiction, or call the St patrol equal, you will get the straight answer that they will ticket you for. I doubt door tag is what you need to worry about frankly!
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mowermech
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The registration slip for my truck states "GVW 14,000".
That is, Gross VEHICLE Weight, NOT Gross COMBINED Weight.
What does it say on YOUR registration slip?
GVW or GCW?
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blt2ski
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MM,
There is one person on here that has a paper registration that shows both, a gcw and a GVW. So wold assume if solo, has to stay under the GVW, and if tandem, needs to stay under both per say!
Registration in Wa st, shows a scale wt, ie manfactures tare as built, for the dumptruck, I needed to get it weighed. Then there is a box with Gwt, ie max gross wt as paid for. There is no box showing a GCW here at least! only Gross wt.
Another example for others, my 2000 C2500, scale wt is listed as 4674, Gwt 8000. Which is the max I can weigh before potential over wt tickets occur. Yeaj my door sticker says 8600 GVWR, RA 6000 FA 3700.......I only can legally go to 8000lbs!
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DSteiner51 wrote:VintageRacer wrote:You have to be careful. Some jurisdictions do use the manufacturers GVWR on the sticker as the legal maximum, so if you go there you have to be compliant with that. The only one I know of for sure is British Columbia, but I honestly have not tried to find any more. I first found out about BC from a newspaper story about how they were cracking down on that due to several fatalities from accidents with overloaded vehicles in a short period of time. You do have to also register for you GVW, but you can't exceed the GVWR.
http://pss.gov.bc.ca/psb/vehicle-management/gvw.html
Edit: I was curious so I looked at some other provinces. Ontario seems to not include the manufacturers GVWR in their regulations, at least I couldn't find it, but Nova Scotia does, same as BC.
Brian
In BC and Nova Scotia, is it legal to change tires and rims? Is it legal to stray from the air pressure stated on the tag for the particular GVWR? I'm sure then either of the pictures above that I posted would be illegal there too. What do young boys do to their trucks?
In practicality the BC law works like this: if an officer suspects the truck is overloaded based on the way the suspension is sagging or the tires are squatting he may have the vehicle weighed. After weighing the rig he determines if you are legally overloaded based on whether or not your weights are over the GVWR numbers. If your truck doesn't appear overloaded you will likely never have an issue.
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