2oldman
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Reddog1 wrote:Many have twins. In most cases, I do not see the need. What do they run to need over 2000 watts? If it is the A/C, most could simply replace the A/C with a 9000 series Polar Cub. Simply replace the a/c? Is that a joke?
I used to run my Duotherm Kwikcool with one 2k Honda. It was a struggle, and the poor little guy sounded like he was coming unhinged. With 2 2ks they just purr along fine.
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Reddog1
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2oldman wrote:Reddog1 wrote:Many have twins. In most cases, I do not see the need. What do they run to need over 2000 watts? If it is the A/C, most could simply replace the A/C with a 9000 series Polar Cub. Simply replace the a/c? Is that a joke?
I used to run my Duotherm Kwikcool with one 2k Honda. It was a struggle, and the poor little guy sounded like he was coming unhinged. With 2 2ks they just purr along fine. Not a joke at all. It certainly depends on your A/C needs, and not an option for everyone.
I think a 9000 series Polar Cub was about $600. Takes between one to two hours to change, depending on who does it. That is substantially cheaper than a second Honda with hookups. A bonus is not having to mess with a second Honda.
I am not familiar with the Duotherm Kwikcool A/C. I do know that there are capacitor upgrades for many of the A/Cs that might be worth looking into.
When you say "It was a struggle, and the poor little guy sounded like he was coming unhinged.", are you referring to the A/C or Honda?
Wayne
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ExRocketScientist
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I have also looked at the Dometic SmartStart product. Much more expensive than replacing the capacitor in an A/C unit but should allow you to get a 13.5K A/C unit started on one Honda 2000. Has anyone ever tried starting a 13.5K unit on two Hondas, turning the ecothrottle off on one of them, and then shutting down the other Honda? I can't try this because I have a 15K AC unit. I know from my Prosine 2.0 panel that it draws more than what one Honda can supply.
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JiminDenver
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Wayne
I didn't mean to hit a nerve by suggesting there may be a better way for me than buying a all mighty Honda and really it was done in jest. I have my needs and you have yours how we fulfill them is different and that is ok.
You mentioned being where I am going and I am certainly willing to hear your reasons as to why you think what I plan is not going to work. That's what this forum is for. Come up with a better plan and I will be thrilled.
I may be new to modern RV's and this forum but started boondocking 25 years ago. My concepts of power management and conservation come from that and few things have changed.
A. we never went "boondocking" or "dry camping" it was just camping and I have never used a hook up until buying this TT and may not again.
B Things like control panels and detectors sap batter power, they didn't use too.
C. a lot of the areas we use to be able to go to are closed now, very sad indeed.
Other than that, generators are still annoying to listen too. I don't have to replace power I don't use and throwing money at a situation isn't always the best solution.
As for my plans, The figure for solar came from a respected member here after a more detail discussion of our needs.
The cheap battery is a match up to the one that came in the TT, when they need replacing I will buy better. I can tell you that from experience that they will cover our needs most of the time for at least a week even without the solar or running the generator.
My used cheap used Champion ($62) will be used as a last resort back up. At 9200 ft+ there just isn't much need for AC.
I will say that I do like your idea of replacing the AC unit with a weaker one if it could handle the 100 degree temps at what I consider lower altitudes (5200 ft) That is if my brand new unit needed replacing. I do have a alternative route but it doesn't sound like you would be interested in hearing it.
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2oldman
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Reddog1 wrote:s coming unhinged.", are you referring to the A/C or Honda? Choice B.
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pnichols
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Quote:Not a joke at all. It certainly depends on your A/C needs, and not an option for everyone.
I think a 9000 series Polar Cub was about $600. Takes between one to two hours to change, depending on who does it. That is substantially cheaper than a second Honda with hookups. A bonus is not having to mess with a second Honda.
That's a very good observation!
I'd much rather have a new high efficeincy 13.5Kbtu A/C on our rig that a single Honda 2000 could run instead of buying two Honda 2000's just to run an older (inefficient) 13.5Kbtu A/C unit that could start failing anytime, anyway.
(The new high efficiency 13.5Kbtu A/C's are usually less tall too - so as to not catch on over-hanging limbs as easily.)
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After all the discussion I can now report first hand, the sound emitted by my new Yamaha 3000 iseb on full throttle is pure music. The price I paid was well worth it. It does not vibrate even in my truck bed, and I feel I can run it without any reservations. My neighbor came over today and was amazed at it's low sound and pleasant frequency. He says his two Hondas running together make more noise. I think it's more than just the noise of generators that bother people. It's the other factors including frequency of the sound and vibration. My advice is save your money and buy either a Yamaha or Honda. It's going to make a better RV experience for you and your neighbors.
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pnichols wrote:
I'd much rather have a new high efficiency 13.5Kbtu A/C on our rig that a single Honda 2000 could run .
So would I. What make and model would that be?
Any idea how it would work at altitude?
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pnichols
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Quote:So would I. What make and model would that be?
Here's one ... the Coleman Mach 3 Power Saver 13.5K btu A/C that draws only 10.2 amps ... should start & run on a single Honda 2000 inverter genny - probably at relatively high altitude if the Honda is not set on it's Economy Mode (my guesstimate on this):
http://www.adventurerv.net/coleman-13500........er-roof-air-conditioner-mach-p-5321.html
(This paricular one doesn't appear to be low profile, however.)
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Reddog1
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pnichols wrote:Quote:So would I. What make and model would that be?
Here's one ... the Coleman Mach 3 Power Saver 13.5K btu A/C that draws only 10.2 amps ... should start & run on a single Honda 2000 inverter genny - probably at relatively high altitude if the Honda is not set on it's Economy Mode (my guesstimate on this):
http://www.adventurerv.net/coleman-13500........er-roof-air-conditioner-mach-p-5321.html
(This paricular one doesn't appear to be low profile, however.) Great, I did not know that. But then that is why most of us are members of RV.NET, to keep abreast of the RV options.
As for the altitude, main jets are available for many generators to compensate for altitude. Key word here, "many".
Wayne
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