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Posted: 01/04/12 11:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Wow-

Am I wrong, or is this the second "bad things happening in Mexico" post the O.P. of this thread has started recently?

What's up with that????

ON EDIT:

I looked it up myself...here's the other one: Another blow for Mexico

?????


No you are right..

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mockturtle wrote:

Moisheh, I am curious about something and you would have the answer, I assume, having a home in MX. I know it is not legal for us to bring firearms into Mexico but is it legal for someone to own one or have one in your possession when you are living there? Are privately owned firearms prohibited (except for the criminal class, of course!)?


Mexican citizens can have some firearms but there are tight restrictions. Foreigners can bring in hunting arms for a regulated hunting trip but again very very tight restrictions. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad people can obtain firearms if they wish. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad stuff happens!

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I had written a response to Bounder Lew's reply but deleted it as any further discussion truly does show a lack of respect.

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rocmoc wrote:

mockturtle wrote:

Moisheh, I am curious about something and you would have the answer, I assume, having a home in MX. I know it is not legal for us to bring firearms into Mexico but is it legal for someone to own one or have one in your possession when you are living there? Are privately owned firearms prohibited (except for the criminal class, of course!)?


Mexican citizens can have some firearms but there are tight restrictions. Foreigners can bring in hunting arms for a regulated hunting trip but again very very tight restrictions. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad people can obtain firearms if they wish. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad stuff happens!

rocmoc n AZ
I am aware that bad stuff happens ANYWHERE and that bad people can obtain firearms ANYWHERE. What I was asking is whether or not law abiding citizens in Mexico may have the means with which to defend themselves.


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Francesca Knowles wrote:

Wow-
Am I wrong, or is this the second "bad things happening in Mexico" post the O.P. of this thread has started recently?

What's up with that????

ON EDIT:
I looked it up myself...here's the other one: Another blow for Mexico
?????

That's some sleuthing, Francesca. With the OP having more than 6000 informative and not antagonizing posts, I'm not sure how you could have accomplished this remarkable feat.


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Posted: 01/05/12 07:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mockturtle wrote:

rocmoc wrote:


Mexican citizens can have some firearms but there are tight restrictions. Foreigners can bring in hunting arms for a regulated hunting trip but again very very tight restrictions. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad people can obtain firearms if they wish. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad stuff happens!

rocmoc n AZ
I am aware that bad stuff happens ANYWHERE and that bad people can obtain firearms ANYWHERE. What I was asking is whether or not law abiding citizens in Mexico may have the means with which to defend themselves.


It's in rocmoc's first sentence, "Mexican citizens can have some firearms, but there are restrictions."

Here is a translation of the pertinent part of the Mexican Constitution.

    Article 10. The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have a right to arms in their homes, for security and legitimate defense, with exception of those prohibited by Federal Law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law will determine the cases, conditions, requirements, and places in which the carrying of arms will be authorized to the inhabitants.

It is my understanding that purchasing guns in Mexico is completely controlled by the military, from permits to actually selling the guns. Citizens are limited to 2 handguns and 10 rifles. I believe all must be of small caliber. There is an exception for hunt clubs.

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Posted: 01/05/12 08:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pulsar wrote:

mockturtle wrote:

rocmoc wrote:


Mexican citizens can have some firearms but there are tight restrictions. Foreigners can bring in hunting arms for a regulated hunting trip but again very very tight restrictions. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad people can obtain firearms if they wish. Like ANYWHERE in the world, bad stuff happens!

rocmoc n AZ
I am aware that bad stuff happens ANYWHERE and that bad people can obtain firearms ANYWHERE. What I was asking is whether or not law abiding citizens in Mexico may have the means with which to defend themselves.


It's in rocmoc's first sentence, "Mexican citizens can have some firearms, but there are restrictions."

Here is a translation of the pertinent part of the Mexican Constitution.

    Article 10. The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have a right to arms in their homes, for security and legitimate defense, with exception of those prohibited by Federal Law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law will determine the cases, conditions, requirements, and places in which the carrying of arms will be authorized to the inhabitants.

It is my understanding that purchasing guns in Mexico is completely controlled by the military, from permits to actually selling the guns. Citizens are limited to 2 handguns and 10 rifles. I believe all must be of small caliber. There is an exception for hunt clubs.

Tom
Thanks, Tom.

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Most of my Mexican friends that have weapons got them "under the table". Not only does the military control access to weapons I don't think there are very many places that sell them. I was told there is an outlet in Mexico City. Tourists are not allowed weapons other than for hunting. Maybe for competitions. Even ammunition is controlled. You cannot believe the number of people that are injured or killed on New Year's Eve and Christmas when the weapons are discharged into the air. I am sure you could buy the weapon of your choice in Sinaloa dirt cheap. From anti-tank to the latest US high tech stuff! I would not want to be caught with a weapon in Mexico. You truly would be better off dead. There is a great story about the California RV'r( yes this is RV related) who was heading to Mexico. Stopped in Tucson to attend a gun show and bought some sort of automatic weapon. He was going to leave it with a friend in Tucson but there was no one home. Foolishly he decided to hide it in his unit. He was searched at Nogales and sent to Prison. I do not remember how much time was spent in prison but he had a long sentence. This fellow had a serious illness that required meds and somehow the Good Sam Club became involved and the local Congressman got him out on compassionate grounds. There was another RV'r who often came to Kino. He was selling ammunition and got caught. I think he is still in prison.

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Posted: 01/05/12 09:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well, forewarned is forearmed, I guess. In a manner of speaking.

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UltimaRV wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Wow-
Am I wrong, or is this the second "bad things happening in Mexico" post the O.P. of this thread has started recently?

What's up with that????

ON EDIT:
I looked it up myself...here's the other one: Another blow for Mexico
?????

That's some sleuthing, Francesca. With the OP having more than 6000 informative and not antagonizing posts, I'm not sure how you could have accomplished this remarkable feat.

I wouldn't characterize this subject as "antagonistic", though it's perhaps a bit sensational... I just don't get the point of multiple threads on the subject.
And I don't deserve the compliment re. "searching" skills. The earlier thread was real easy to find, it having such a memorable title "Another Blow For Mexico"


" Not every mind that wanders is lost. " With apologies to J.R.R. Tolkien

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