racerchaser

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For several months I have been considering buying a small solar panel for the toad to keep the battery charged while towing. I am referring to the ones that are approximately 12x8 inches and plug into the cigarette lighter and placed on the dash. I saw that type at Camping World last week. Anyone else using this type? If so what are your experiences?
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I've got one I got at Walmart. It's a bit larger, and I think it was a "Coleman"....and cost about $60.......
It's really just a maintenance charger, so you will probably be OK.....
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pianotuna

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Hi,
The small one is only 1.5 watts and may be inadequate to the need. I'd go with 10 to 15 watts.
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I use this one works very well. ( from batteryminder.com 15watt)
The panel is a little fragle, as I dropped mine and the back glass has cracked but, still operates well.
Make a sturdy bracket for it
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Golden_HVAC

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Hi,
I have a solar isolation meter, and while driving back from the high mountains to test the solar isolation on 320 acres a friend wants to sell, I checked the isolation at 2,000' elevation, and also inside the windshield. Outside the window was about 1,060, while inside was only about 600. So the windshield glass prevents about 40% of the light from coming in, it is three layers, with UV protection plastic liner in the center, that also helps prevent the glass from shattering in a collission.
So your prospective 15 watt panel will be derated to only about 10 watts if inside the glass.
Why not ad a fifth wire from the RV to the toad battery? Then you can get up to 10 amps per hour into the toad battery, if it needs that much. You would need about 30' of #10 wire and two automatic reset circuit breakers rated at 20 amps. Put one circuit breaker near each battery, then run the #10 wire to the bumper, and then have some sort of connector for the two wires. I used a cheap extension cord on my car, it plugs into the back of the motorhome. I only needed a couple of amps to run my braking system, and it only needed one wire.
I also have a cruise control motor, when I apply vacuum, it pulls the cable, pulling on the brakes in the car. $35 and 4 hours labor, sure beats anything sold at the RV place! And nothing to hook up or fiddle with other than the vacuum line and wire when hitching up or unhitching.
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You will have to make sure the jack on your car works when the car is off.
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Rich D.

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Listen to Fred, he gave you good advice. Why put in a mini solar panel when you have plenty of alternator charging capacity from the RV? The little panel won't keep up with a load from a braking device. Plus it won't do anything on rainy days or during cloudy or low light conditions. Just run a wire through the connector jack to charge the toad battery from the RV.
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Golden_HVAC wrote: Hi,
I have a solar isolation meter, and while driving back from the high mountains to test the solar isolation on 320 acres a friend wants to sell, I checked the isolation at 2,000' elevation, and also inside the windshield. Outside the window was about 1,060, while inside was only about 600. So the windshield glass prevents about 40% of the light from coming in, it is three layers, with UV protection plastic liner in the center, that also helps prevent the glass from shattering in a collission.
So your prospective 15 watt panel will be derated to only about 10 watts if inside the glass.
Why not ad a fifth wire from the RV to the toad battery? Then you can get up to 10 amps per hour into the toad battery, if it needs that much. You would need about 30' of #10 wire and two automatic reset circuit breakers rated at 20 amps. Put one circuit breaker near each battery, then run the #10 wire to the bumper, and then have some sort of connector for the two wires. I used a cheap extension cord on my car, it plugs into the back of the motorhome. I only needed a couple of amps to run my braking system, and it only needed one wire.
I also have a cruise control motor, when I apply vacuum, it pulls the cable, pulling on the brakes in the car. $35 and 4 hours labor, sure beats anything sold at the RV place! And nothing to hook up or fiddle with other than the vacuum line and wire when hitching up or unhitching.
Fred.
I also second Fred's advice. Using your tow vehicle's alternator to keep the toad's battery charged is a much better choice.
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I've used a couple of different ones. We have vehicles that will sit for months before being used.
First one was a cheapie from Harbor Freight. It actually works well, but the plastic around the panel warped in mild summer heat. The panel itself still works just the housing failed.
Costco had a 2 pack of sunforce panels. I didn't see them on the costco website but located them at Amazon.com. I've been using these for a couple of years now and they work great.
I'm with the other guys though. Just switch out to a plug that allows you to run a hot wire to the toad. If you ever pull a trailer with electric brakes you will need it anyways.
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racerchaser

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I guess that I should have included a bit more information. The braking unit on my toad draws no power from the car. All of the required power for the braking system comes from the coach. The only reason I have considered a solar panel is that to tow the car I have to leave the key turned to the first position so the steering wheel is not locked. Therefore the only power draw is the same as leaving the key on while it is parked. After 7.5 years with the same car I have found that the batteries last a little over 3.5 year instead of the typical 5 years. The solar panel thought is to get a more typical 5 years out of a battery. I just wondered if there were others out there who were using a solar panel in their toad.
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