Pond Jumper

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Furnace will run until desired temp, cut off and won't come back on. After turning heat switch off and then returning to heat it will sometimes come back on but most often won't come back on at all. I pulled the furnace out, blew any dust off, checked the sail switch which seemed to move freely and checked it with a tester to make sure it was ok, which it was. Replaced the furnace and turned it on and it started up and was heating. I turned it off and then back on and the same problem again. It won't come back on.
Forgot to say that I can hear it click to ignite when I'm outside by the furnace and still no flame.
Any ideas??
PJ
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dougrainer

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Which model? I will assume sf series maybe a 35. When you hear the ignitor click, be outside and see if you smell LP. If so, then the orifice is either partially clogged or the ignitor is not sparking from the electrode to the burner but from the electrode to the upper case. If you do NOT smell LP, then the gas valve is not opening. A "Quick" way to determine the clogged orifice is to hold a piece of cardboard over the external exhaust vent when attempting to ignite. IF you hear a "pop" and the burner lights for a few seconds or stays lit, the Orifice needs checked and the electrode position. Doug
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bstark

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If your igniter is snapping then the igniter gap is fine and the signal is getting to the furnace to fire off but the solenoid valve to feed propane is likely not opening.
Can you get easy access to the solenoid valve itself? On my suburban, if I removed the outer panel I was looking at the fan assemblies with the solenoid valve tucked into the middle of the front of the unit so it was easy to ask my wife to perform the "switch on" job while putting a long screwdriver against that solenoid, wait until I heard the coil packs energize and give the handle of the screwdriver a light tap with a hammer et-voila solenoid opened and off she went.
Now that I had determined either a sticking solenoid valve or faulty coil packs, I removed all wires to the coil packs and tested continuity across the exposed spade lugs which were good. Now I'm thinking solenoid valve is sticking but decided to save a little effort in dismantling the solenoid and first purchase a new set of coils and sure enough, the old ones, while showing no shorts, were weak I guess. She fired right up instantly and consistantly.
Never another problem since.
On Edit the post above by Doug is right on the money AND the first thing to check with the orifice perhaps being clogged with some crud and a set of welding torch cleaning rods will give you the right size cleaning rod to gently clean that orifice with.
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What model is your furnace? I have a Suburban manual I can send you if you PM me.
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Here's a link to a manual that contains a great troubleshooting section.
Suburban Furnace Manual
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bstark wrote: If your igniter is snapping then the igniter gap is fine and the signal is getting to the furnace to fire off but the solenoid valve to feed propane is likely not opening.
Can you get easy access to the solenoid valve itself? On my suburban, if I removed the outer panel I was looking at the fan assemblies with the solenoid valve tucked into the middle of the front of the unit so it was easy to ask my wife to perform the "switch on" job while putting a long screwdriver against that solenoid, wait until I heard the coil packs energize and give the handle of the screwdriver a light tap with a hammer et-voila solenoid opened and off she went.
Now that I had determined either a sticking solenoid valve or faulty coil packs, I removed all wires to the coil packs and tested continuity across the exposed spade lugs which were good. Now I'm thinking solenoid valve is sticking but decided to save a little effort in dismantling the solenoid and first purchase a new set of coils and sure enough, the old ones, while showing no shorts, were weak I guess. She fired right up instantly and consistantly.
Never another problem since.
On Edit the post above by Doug is right on the money AND the first thing to check with the orifice perhaps being clogged with some crud and a set of welding torch cleaning rods will give you the right size cleaning rod to gently clean that orifice with.
FYI............
Just because one hears the ticking of the spark, doesn't mean the spark is in the correct position.
If the porcilin around the ignitor is cracked, the spark could leak out of that crack to ground. Found this situation a few times over the years.
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What I found on my Suburban furnace was the fan motor would slow down when the unit warmed up and would not trip the sail switch. Removing, disassembling and oiling the motor corrected the problem. I found the problem by jumping out the sail switch and watching the furnace while the wife worked the thermostat.
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sundancer268 wrote: What I found on my Suburban furnace was the fan motor would slow down when the unit warmed up and would not trip the sail switch. Removing, disassembling and oiling the motor corrected the problem. I found the problem by jumping out the sail switch and watching the furnace while the wife worked the thermostat.
That is a temporary fix. You need to replace the motor. Doug
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Mine had a partially clogged orfice as dougrainer has mentioned above. When I pulled Suburban SF35 out I had a wire come loose from other wires and was not sure exactly how to rewire. After I added a wire to a short one and reconnected it worked. Connecting those very small wires was difficult, they came loose twice.
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waynefi

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I just got my TT back from having the dealer fix the same symptoms. In my case it was a bent sail switch which was rubbing on the case.
Mine is a new TT, so aparently it got bend during installation.
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