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alageezer

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While there is some useful info here, there is also a lot of unfounded opinions.


I would love for someone to explain the difference between a tandem axle road tractor pulling a set of 28' doubles, with the obligatory dolly that measures about 4', for a total of about 64', and my rig, a pickup pulling a 30' fw and a 13' utility trailer for a total on just over 60'. ALL of my weights are well within all ratings.


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Most states and provinces do not allow double towing behind a TT, only a 5er.

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Of the 38 states that allow RV double towing, ONLY 4, require the 1st tow to be a 5th wheel and one of those defines a 5th wheel in such a way, that you can double tow with a motorhome. So in reality, only 3 require the 1st to be a true 5th wheel...IMHO, that is NOT most states....I don't know anything about Canada, so I don't try and say what they allow.

I have double towed in many of the 38 states that allow it, with the 1st being a motorhome, the 2nd a pickup and the 3rd being an ATV or boat trailer.

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38 states? The Towing World chart shows 21 states as "NO".
That does not compute.


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38 states? The Towing World chart shows 21 states as "NO".
That does not compute.
Sorry, that chart is very wrong, but my number was also wrong, it should have been 32. Here is a chart that show the majority, but still is not totally correct, as Florida has joined the ranks of allowing it.

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alageezer wrote:

While there is some useful info here, there is also a lot of unfounded opinions.


I would love for someone to explain the difference between a tandem axle road tractor pulling a set of 28' doubles, with the obligatory dolly that measures about 4', for a total of about 64', and my rig, a pickup pulling a 30' fw and a 13' utility trailer for a total on just over 60'. ALL of my weights are well within all ratings.


Here in NY state it's the law. Only commercial vehicles allowed to "double tow" and the operator must have a CDL rated for the operation of the vehicles.
Driving up I81 crossing the PA/NY border keep your eye out for a parking lot usually containing several trailers and boats. These are the ones that the troopers catch doubling across the border. Made to unhitch and are ticketed.


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alageezer wrote:

While there is some useful info here, there is also a lot of unfounded opinions.


I would love for someone to explain the difference between a tandem axle road tractor pulling a set of 28' doubles, with the obligatory dolly that measures about 4', for a total of about 64', and my rig, a pickup pulling a 30' fw and a 13' utility trailer for a total on just over 60'. ALL of my weights are well within all ratings.
The tandem axle road tractor has a fifth wheel and the lead trailer has a pintel hook on the rear that the dolly hooks to and the dolly has a fifth wheel for the pup trailer. The dolly also has very heavy safety chains. That is the difference between you and the road tractor. I've pulled close to 135,000 lbs with a similiar road tractor set up. And if you get the steel coils loaded wrong, it is a pia to pull and control. Loading is very critical for good handling!

And what you and the road tractor have is much different than what the OP's friend wants to do with a 2" ball and probably a 1 7/8" ball.

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The Texan wrote:

ausie607 wrote:

Most states and provinces do not allow double towing behind a TT, only a 5er.
Again, someone who does NOT know what he talks about. Of the 38 states that allow RV double towing, ONLY 4, require the 1st tow to be a 5th wheel and one of those defines a 5th wheel in such a way, that you can double tow with a motorhome. So in reality, only 3 require the 1st to be a true 5th wheel...IMHO, that is NOT most states....I don't know anything about Canada, so I don't try and say what they allow.

I have double towed in many of the 38 states that allow it, with the 1st being a motorhome, the 2nd a pickup and the 3rd being an ATV or boat trailer.


Texan,
Of the 3 States that require the 1st to be a true 5th wheel, do they specify that it 'must' be a 5th wheel type hitch or rather that the 1st cannot be a ball hitch. So in other words, in these 3 States would it be legal to tow a toad and small trailer if the toad wasn't attached with ball hitch? (i.e. the toad would be attached with hitch pins to the receiver)




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Legle or not the first hitch has to have the capasity for the weight of both trailers. also the thing you are calling a bumper on the back of a travel trailer is nothing more than a place to put your sewer hose.

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1fastdad wrote:

Leagle or not the first hitch has to have the capasity for the weight of both trailers. also the thing you are calling a bumper on the back of a travel trailer is nothing more than a place to put your sewer hose.


Here in Montana, a double ball hitch IS LEGAL, and EVERY one of them I see has a frame mounted receiver on the back of the TT or fifth wheel. I have never seen a double tow using a "bumper mounted" hitch.

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